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[nahtnam]

Im tired of arguing. As I mentioned, it both PDs and Spixels fault. Stunna, please fix this error.

What does he have to fix?

It is pd fault to have errors . BUT ITS NOT PDs FAULT THAT U LOST THAT BET! I am done arguing .
LMAO !

This is my thinking too.

Sometimes when you bet, you get an alert saying "Error". Nothing else. Then once you refresh, it resets the seeds. The problem with this is that PD knows what the bet outcome is. Lets say you make a bet of 0.1 and it turns out to be a win, but instead PD just says "Error" and doesnt give you the money. Then you refresh and then bet and lose. This is what happened to Spixel. It also happened to me (0.09 BTC).

[MICRO]

SERVER SEED CHANGES EVERY BET. U done 12 bets after refresh . PD DOESN'T remember ur last bets, no matter if seed changes or not! Ur chance of losing is THE SAME! Its just ridiculous what u are trying to say. U had 20% chance to lose every single bet, u shoulda lost that 2 times in 10 bets. Damn I AM DONE

[spixel]

SITE OR SEED CHANGES EVERY BET. U done 12 bets after refresh . PD DOESN'T remember ur last bets, no matter if seed changes or not! Ur chance of losing is THE SAME! Its just ridiculous what u are trying to say. U had 20% chance to lose every single bet, u shoulda lost that 2 times in 10 bets. Damn I AM DONE

It's not that simple micro. When an error on the houses side happens that most likely caused a big loss like this, they should take responsibility.

If I did the same bet 12 bets later on the other seed, the outcome would have been different. I didn't decide myself to refresh the page, primedice stopped working as it should. There is no way for me to know now that I lost fairly.

[Kyraishi]

I had the error problem more than 15 times, most when using auto-betting, and never had a problem, (except it stops my bot from going overnight).

[MICRO]

Last post in this discussion.

If u played roulette in live casino, and croupier(dealer) changes , or playing poker, and dealer changes, and after 12 bets u lose . Would u ask for refund ?
Coz yes, if dealer did not change, u would be probably dealt different cards , or rolled other number .
Its just ridiculous what u are saying .
Yes, pd should not have errors, yes it did affected outcome of that bet, BUT ur chance to lose remained the same, (and pretty big chance to lose 1 bet on 80% in 12 rolls btw).

edit: Sorry if dealer had to change coz he was sick . That is error

Yes u can wait 24h and check that bet provably fair, and u will see if that bet was fair.

[spixel]

Last post in this discussion.

If u played roulette in live casino, and croupier(dealer) changes , or playing poker, and dealer changes, and after 12 bets u lose . Would u ask for refund ?
Coz yes, if dealer did not change, u would be probably dealt different cards , or rolled other number .
Its just ridiculous what u are saying .
Yes, pd should not have errors, yes it did affected outcome of that bet, BUT ur chance to lose remained the same, (and pretty big chance to lose 1 bet on 80% in 12 rolls.

Who said I had only lost 1 in 12 80% since the seed changed? I lost others before it.

Your comparison is not suitable imo. A dealer changing is not an Error.

[MICRO]

Bottom line: U can check probably fair for that bet, if u saved server seed , client seed and u will have secret.
And i can guarantee u that Stunna will not refund u, coz that would be just ridiculous . Even if u can prove that u got error at that point in time . And i guess u cant .

[spixel]

Bottom line: U can check probably fair for that bet, if u saved server seed , client seed and u will have secret.
And i can guarantee u that Stunna will not refund u, coz that would be just ridiculous . Even if u can prove that u got error at that point in time . And i guess u cant .

The error happened after this bet, there was 3 in a row 80x loss before this. Only 27 bets since I started.

https://primedice.com/modals/bet.html?id=550233153

and the next bet after I had to refresh the page

https://primedice.com/modals/bet.html?id=550233760

Completely different client seed.

[MICRO]

Bottom line: U can check probably fair for that bet, if u saved server seed , client seed and u will have secret.
And i can guarantee u that Stunna will not refund u, coz that would be just ridiculous . Even if u can prove that u got error at that point in time . And i guess u cant .

The error happened after this bet, there was 3 in a row 80x loss before this. Only 27 bets since I started.

https://primedice.com/modals/bet.html?id=550233153

and the next bet after I had to refresh the page

https://primedice.com/modals/bet.html?id=550233760

Completely different client seed.

But where is prof that u got error not just refreshed coz feeling like refreshing
I am not saying u trying to extort money from him. But if stunna paid everybody with claim as urs. He would pay ALOT. And everybody could start doing that .
And even if he believes u , still that is just no reason to pay u. Coz reason of ur lost is not that error u got.

Sorry for ur lost but its gone. And u will not get it back this way.

[spixel]

Bottom line: U can check probably fair for that bet, if u saved server seed , client seed and u will have secret.
And i can guarantee u that Stunna will not refund u, coz that would be just ridiculous . Even if u can prove that u got error at that point in time . And i guess u cant .

The error happened after this bet, there was 3 in a row 80x loss before this. Only 27 bets since I started.

https://primedice.com/modals/bet.html?id=550233153

and the next bet after I had to refresh the page

https://primedice.com/modals/bet.html?id=550233760

Completely different client seed.

But where is prof that u got error not just refreshed coz feeling like refreshing
I am not saying u trying to extort money from him. But if stunna paid everybody with claim as urs. He would pay ALOT. And everybody could start doing that .

Sorry for ur lost but its gone. And u will not get it back this way.

I got the error and that's that. I have no reason to refresh the page otherwise.

My claim is genuine, stunna can probably see that from my bet history, it could show up the error.

Also I think this is important

" Our random numbers are generated through the use of three seeds.
These are: the server seed, secret seed and most importantly, the client seed."



It's is not a funny situation for me so please stop with the laughing smiley faces.

Btw, if stunna does offer a refund due to the error I will keep this private. Also, I think there should be a popup notifying that the seed has been changed after a page refresh.

[MICRO]

Sorry for that , its just my typing. I rely don't think that he should refund u . Its just my opinion.
Sorry for ur lost and i hope u will have better luck from now on if u continue playing on pd.

Say hi on chat, i am MICRO there to.

[spixel]

Sorry for that , its just my typing. I rely don't think that he should refund u . Its just my opinion.
Sorry for ur lost and i hope u will have better luck from now on if u continue playing on pd.

Say hi on chat, i am MICRO there to.

I know who you are, and you know me

I have spent alot of time the past few months playing and chatting on PD, and its really sad if it ends like this. I am fine with accepting my own loss (despite being angry at first) but not like this. All my BTC gone, so soon after an error not caused by me dramatically changed the outcome of my rolls.

[nahtnam]

Sorry for that , its just my typing. I rely don't think that he should refund u . Its just my opinion.
Sorry for ur lost and i hope u will have better luck from now on if u continue playing on pd.

Say hi on chat, i am MICRO there to.

I know who you are, and you know me

I have spent alot of time the past few months playing and chatting on PD, and its really sad if it ends like this. I am fine with accepting my own loss (despite being angry at first) but not like this.

The best resolution is for Stunna to simply fix the error and atleast provide an explanation of why the "error" comes up.

[nahtnam]

Last post in this discussion.

If u played roulette in live casino, and croupier(dealer) changes , or playing poker, and dealer changes, and after 12 bets u lose . Would u ask for refund ?
Coz yes, if dealer did not change, u would be probably dealt different cards , or rolled other number .
Its just ridiculous what u are saying .
Yes, pd should not have errors, yes it did affected outcome of that bet, BUT ur chance to lose remained the same, (and pretty big chance to lose 1 bet on 80% in 12 rolls btw).

edit: Sorry if dealer had to change coz he was sick . That is error

Yes u can wait 24h and check that bet provably fair, and u will see if that bet was fair.

Its more like this. In the middle of a poker game, you know your about to win. Then the dealer accidentally does something he isnt supposed to, and makes everyone restart the game. This is more like what happened.

[MICRO]

Last post in this discussion.

If u played roulette in live casino, and croupier(dealer) changes , or playing poker, and dealer changes, and after 12 bets u lose . Would u ask for refund ?
Coz yes, if dealer did not change, u would be probably dealt different cards , or rolled other number .
Its just ridiculous what u are saying .
Yes, pd should not have errors, yes it did affected outcome of that bet, BUT ur chance to lose remained the same, (and pretty big chance to lose 1 bet on 80% in 12 rolls btw).

edit: Sorry if dealer had to change coz he was sick . That is error

Yes u can wait 24h and check that bet provably fair, and u will see if that bet was fair.

Its more like this. In the middle of a poker game, you know your about to win. Then the dealer accidentally does something he isnt supposed to, and makes everyone restart the game. This is more like what happened.

Pls explain to me HOW he did know he was about to win Come on nahtnam rely ? I respect u but that just doesn't make any sense.

[Kyraishi]

Stunna isn't going to fix this error, since they're working on PD3 which will likely not have errors.(they took huge times to make it Bugless) I would be surprised if PD3 come out as beta or having any bugs.

[spixel]

Stunna, can you please reply to my PM regarding this when you have time.

I had no idea that my seed was changed when placing the bets after the error and don't see this mentioned anywhere on the site.

I only noticed after I checked the bet id of my loss and saw the client seed bet id was much lower than it should be. I knew I had placed much more bets than that since I deposited which is when it dawned on me what had happened.

You say yourself how important the role of the client seed is in determining rolls so I can't see how my loss can be considered fair, when my client seed was changed due to an error.

[nahtnam]

Last post in this discussion.

If u played roulette in live casino, and croupier(dealer) changes , or playing poker, and dealer changes, and after 12 bets u lose . Would u ask for refund ?
Coz yes, if dealer did not change, u would be probably dealt different cards , or rolled other number .
Its just ridiculous what u are saying .
Yes, pd should not have errors, yes it did affected outcome of that bet, BUT ur chance to lose remained the same, (and pretty big chance to lose 1 bet on 80% in 12 rolls btw).

edit: Sorry if dealer had to change coz he was sick . That is error

Yes u can wait 24h and check that bet provably fair, and u will see if that bet was fair.

Its more like this. In the middle of a poker game, you know your about to win. Then the dealer accidentally does something he isnt supposed to, and makes everyone restart the game. This is more like what happened.

Pls explain to me HOW he did know he was about to win Come on nahtnam rely ? I respect u but that just doesn't make any sense.

In the case of spixel, he did not know he wa going to win, but he got an error and couldn't find out. He could have won, but he lost since a tech error made him refresh. In the case of a live casino, my analogy represents more closely the case of spixel.

[nahtnam]

Stunna isn't going to fix this error, since they're working on PD3 which will likely not have errors.(they took huge times to make it Bugless) I would be surprised if PD3 come out as beta or having any bugs.

He should, because this does relate to the fairness of his site.

[Kyraishi]

Stunna isn't going to fix this error, since they're working on PD3 which will likely not have errors.(they took huge times to make it Bugless) I would be surprised if PD3 come out as beta or having any bugs.

He should, because this does relate to the fairness of his site.

it's a old bug, known, and nothing has been done for long time now, I'd say 3-4 months at least