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March 24, 2014, 01:48:52 PM |
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PD3 is not yet finished?
VERY soon , and i rely think this time is serious .
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spixel
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March 24, 2014, 01:49:14 PM |
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Yes it changed outcome BUT NOT UR CHANCE TO WIN!
@RGBkey, i don't think that primedice gives that error to stop u from betting. They can't afford to cheat. And still he cant prove that he got error and not just refreshed page coz he wanted to.
The whole "They can't afford to cheat" mindset is what gets people to lose money. Let me be clear, i am not accusing PD of anything, but people like you that think PD is too big to cheat is part of the problem. Well its simple those who think that site is fair, they play on it, including me. Those who think site is not fair, can go somewhere else, its simple as that. I don't think they cheat, coz if u do the math, of wagered on site they made 3000+ only on house edge. And we all know they make much more than that coz of addicted gamblers who always come back. So i rely think they don't need to cheat , and they don't cheat , its my opinion and i play there and love it. Every body have a choice. so whats the hurt of giving him back his btc due to the error, if they making tons then why not keep one happy customer happy and give them warning. You guys dont know anything of running a business, customer is always right!!! The hurt is that every kid will then come here and cry about some error . U know that he paid some btc to cheaters , so now he needs to be rely careful about it. I would never pay that . Even if i know 100% that error did occur, maybe if he lost all in first roll after error , than maybe i would at least think about it. But 12 rolls after. Not a chance ! The error disrupted my betting, see the rolls before and after. They were all <80, I had to sort out the error then did <49.50 because it ruined my betting pattern.
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Kyraishi
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March 24, 2014, 01:54:28 PM |
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Did Stunna said he will put back instant withdrawal in PD3?
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zolace
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March 24, 2014, 01:55:47 PM |
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Yes it changed outcome BUT NOT UR CHANCE TO WIN!
@RGBkey, i don't think that primedice gives that error to stop u from betting. They can't afford to cheat. And still he cant prove that he got error and not just refreshed page coz he wanted to.
The whole "They can't afford to cheat" mindset is what gets people to lose money. Let me be clear, i am not accusing PD of anything, but people like you that think PD is too big to cheat is part of the problem. Well its simple those who think that site is fair, they play on it, including me. Those who think site is not fair, can go somewhere else, its simple as that. I don't think they cheat, coz if u do the math, of wagered on site they made 3000+ only on house edge. And we all know they make much more than that coz of addicted gamblers who always come back. So i rely think they don't need to cheat , and they don't cheat , its my opinion and i play there and love it. Every body have a choice. so whats the hurt of giving him back his btc due to the error, if they making tons then why not keep one happy customer happy and give them warning. You guys dont know anything of running a business, customer is always right!!! The hurt is that every kid will then come here and cry about some error . U know that he paid some btc to cheaters , so now he needs to be rely careful about it. I would never pay that . Even if i know 100% that error did occur, maybe if he lost all in first roll after error , than maybe i would at least think about it. But 12 rolls after. Not a chance ! If a person has proof of the error then site is responsible to fix its glitches not the clients. Give me a brea
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MICRO
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March 24, 2014, 02:04:12 PM |
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Yes it changed outcome BUT NOT UR CHANCE TO WIN!
@RGBkey, i don't think that primedice gives that error to stop u from betting. They can't afford to cheat. And still he cant prove that he got error and not just refreshed page coz he wanted to.
The whole "They can't afford to cheat" mindset is what gets people to lose money. Let me be clear, i am not accusing PD of anything, but people like you that think PD is too big to cheat is part of the problem. Well its simple those who think that site is fair, they play on it, including me. Those who think site is not fair, can go somewhere else, its simple as that. I don't think they cheat, coz if u do the math, of wagered on site they made 3000+ only on house edge. And we all know they make much more than that coz of addicted gamblers who always come back. So i rely think they don't need to cheat , and they don't cheat , its my opinion and i play there and love it. Every body have a choice. so whats the hurt of giving him back his btc due to the error, if they making tons then why not keep one happy customer happy and give them warning. You guys dont know anything of running a business, customer is always right!!! The hurt is that every kid will then come here and cry about some error . U know that he paid some btc to cheaters , so now he needs to be rely careful about it. I would never pay that . Even if i know 100% that error did occur, maybe if he lost all in first roll after error , than maybe i would at least think about it. But 12 rolls after. Not a chance ! If a person has proof of the error then site is responsible to fix its glitches not the clients. Give me a brea And how he will have that proof ?
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MICRO
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March 24, 2014, 02:05:09 PM |
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Did Stunna said he will put back instant withdrawal in PD3?
Yes withdrawals will be instant on pd 3 at least should be
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spixel
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March 24, 2014, 02:07:04 PM |
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Yes it changed outcome BUT NOT UR CHANCE TO WIN!
@RGBkey, i don't think that primedice gives that error to stop u from betting. They can't afford to cheat. And still he cant prove that he got error and not just refreshed page coz he wanted to.
The whole "They can't afford to cheat" mindset is what gets people to lose money. Let me be clear, i am not accusing PD of anything, but people like you that think PD is too big to cheat is part of the problem. Well its simple those who think that site is fair, they play on it, including me. Those who think site is not fair, can go somewhere else, its simple as that. I don't think they cheat, coz if u do the math, of wagered on site they made 3000+ only on house edge. And we all know they make much more than that coz of addicted gamblers who always come back. So i rely think they don't need to cheat , and they don't cheat , its my opinion and i play there and love it. Every body have a choice. so whats the hurt of giving him back his btc due to the error, if they making tons then why not keep one happy customer happy and give them warning. You guys dont know anything of running a business, customer is always right!!! The hurt is that every kid will then come here and cry about some error . U know that he paid some btc to cheaters , so now he needs to be rely careful about it. I would never pay that . Even if i know 100% that error did occur, maybe if he lost all in first roll after error , than maybe i would at least think about it. But 12 rolls after. Not a chance ! If a person has proof of the error then site is responsible to fix its glitches not the clients. Give me a brea And how he will have that proof ? #1 It's a well known problem #2 Check the client seed difference in my screenshot #3 If PD wanted, I'm sure they would be able too see an error happened in logs They should take responsibility for it and show some good faith.
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March 24, 2014, 02:09:43 PM |
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You said it it is a known problem, and other people didn't come here and want btc back like you.
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spixel
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March 24, 2014, 02:12:06 PM Last edit: March 24, 2014, 02:24:33 PM by spixel |
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You said it it is a known problem, and other people didn't come here and want btc back like you.
Maybe it never affected others the same way it has me? IE.. losing all my btc so soon after the error happened (and it happened almost right away after my deposit) I have not seen it happen once in my normal betting for a long long time. I have been playing at primedice very regularly for the past few months. I'm shocked that they seem completely unwilling to help considering an error on their site almost certainly made me lose all my btc. I got no response from support so far, stunna has replied once but didn't answer anything about the error so I'm waiting for another reply. You can say 'dont bet more than you're willing to lose' but that does not in any way excuse errors affecting my betting at a critical time. The site is meant to be fair, what happened to me was not fair.
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March 24, 2014, 03:11:22 PM |
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You said it it is a known problem, and other people didn't come here and want btc back like you.
Maybe it never affected others the same way it has me? IE.. losing all my btc so soon after the error happened (and it happened almost right away after my deposit) I have not seen it happen once in my normal betting for a long long time. I have been playing at primedice very regularly for the past few months. I'm shocked that they seem completely unwilling to help considering an error on their site almost certainly made me lose all my btc. I got no response from support so far, stunna has replied once but didn't answer anything about the error so I'm waiting for another reply. You can say 'dont bet more than you're willing to lose' but that does not in any way excuse errors affecting my betting at a critical time. The site is meant to be fair, what happened to me was not fair. You refreshed the page and claim that if you had not refreshed your seeds would have been different and you would have won. If you had refreshed and won the bets would you have offered me a refund? Ultimately the odds aren't going to change regardless of how many times you refresh the page. You refreshed the page and then decided to place the bet knowing that the circumstance was potentially different even though in reality the odds were the same. Did Stunna said he will put back instant withdrawal in PD3?
Yes, also it appears we'll have this ready for saturday. (fingers crossed).
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spixel
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March 24, 2014, 03:23:48 PM |
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You said it it is a known problem, and other people didn't come here and want btc back like you.
Maybe it never affected others the same way it has me? IE.. losing all my btc so soon after the error happened (and it happened almost right away after my deposit) I have not seen it happen once in my normal betting for a long long time. I have been playing at primedice very regularly for the past few months. I'm shocked that they seem completely unwilling to help considering an error on their site almost certainly made me lose all my btc. I got no response from support so far, stunna has replied once but didn't answer anything about the error so I'm waiting for another reply. You can say 'dont bet more than you're willing to lose' but that does not in any way excuse errors affecting my betting at a critical time. The site is meant to be fair, what happened to me was not fair. You refreshed the page and claim that if you had not refreshed your seeds would have been different and you would have won. If you had refreshed and won the bets would you have offered me a refund? Ultimately the odds aren't going to change regardless of how many times you refresh the page. You refreshed the page and then decided to place the bet knowing that the circumstance was potentially different even though in reality the odds were the same. Did Stunna said he will put back instant withdrawal in PD3?
Yes, also it appears we'll have this ready for saturday. (fingers crossed). I appreciate the response Stunna. The error was on your site so it shouldn't be my responsibility to deal with any repercussions from it. I did not know the circumstances were different as it didn't cross my mind that the client seed had been changed. Like I said before, if there was a popup after refresh notifying my seed had been reset, I would have proceeded differently. Also, if the error did not occur in the first place, I would have proceeded differently. Please try to see things from my point of view, I did not create this error and it did disrupt my betting as you can see in the screenshot. Since the end result was a big loss so soon after it happened, I don't see why it's unreasonable in asking for a refund on my deposit. What's the worst that could come from it?
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Rulishix
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March 24, 2014, 03:25:28 PM |
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I get the error a lot too. I demand a refund if he's getting one! Joining the bandwagon. Lol.
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Dogtanian
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March 24, 2014, 03:26:19 PM |
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You said it it is a known problem, and other people didn't come here and want btc back like you.
I have been playing at primedice very regularly for the past few months. I'm shocked that they seem completely unwilling to help considering an error on their site almost certainly made me lose all my btc. It didn't almost certainly cause you to lose it, but that's what your blaming the loss on. You could've just as easily have won, but you didn't. That's the gamble. He's not just going to give money back to everybody who is sore and complains after a loss.
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spixel
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March 24, 2014, 03:27:43 PM |
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I get the error a lot too. I demand a refund if he's getting one! Joining the bandwagon. Lol. The loss clearly didn't bother you or you would have complained at the time. You said it it is a known problem, and other people didn't come here and want btc back like you.
I have been playing at primedice very regularly for the past few months. I'm shocked that they seem completely unwilling to help considering an error on their site almost certainly made me lose all my btc. It didn't almost certainly cause you to lose it, but that's what your blaming the loss on. You could've just as easily have won, but you didn't. That's the gamble. He's not just going to give money back to everybody who is sore and complains after a loss. Can you prove this? No, because the error affected the outcome.
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March 24, 2014, 03:28:05 PM |
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I don't see why it's unreasonable in asking for a refund on my deposit. What's the worst that could come from it?
I get the error a lot too. I demand a refund if he's getting one! Joining the bandwagon. Lol. This is what will happen if you get a refund.
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Dogtanian
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March 24, 2014, 03:28:57 PM |
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I get the error a lot too. I demand a refund if he's getting one! Joining the bandwagon. Lol. The loss clearly didn't bother you or you would have complained at the time. You said it it is a known problem, and other people didn't come here and want btc back like you.
I have been playing at primedice very regularly for the past few months. I'm shocked that they seem completely unwilling to help considering an error on their site almost certainly made me lose all my btc. It didn't almost certainly cause you to lose it, but that's what your blaming the loss on. You could've just as easily have won, but you didn't. That's the gamble. He's not just going to give money back to everybody who is sore and complains after a loss. Can you prove this? No, because the error affected the outcome. Can you prove that you would've won the bet had the seed not changed?
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March 24, 2014, 03:29:44 PM Last edit: March 24, 2014, 03:40:51 PM by spixel |
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I don't see why it's unreasonable in asking for a refund on my deposit. What's the worst that could come from it?
I get the error a lot too. I demand a refund if he's getting one! Joining the bandwagon. Lol. This is what will happen if you get a refund. Now see my reply to him. I have proof the error happened very shortly after my deposit + resulted in loss also very shortly afterwards. Also I won't be making Stunnas decision public so this won't matter
Can you prove that you would've won the bet had the seed not changed?
No, I shouldn't have to because the error is not my fault. I wasn't told when I started betting that I should expect one of my bets to freeze and an error to happen.
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MICRO
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March 24, 2014, 03:40:10 PM |
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I don't see why it's unreasonable in asking for a refund on my deposit. What's the worst that could come from it?
I get the error a lot too. I demand a refund if he's getting one! Joining the bandwagon. Lol. This is what will happen if you get a refund. Now see my reply to him. I have proof the error happened very shortly after my deposit + resulted in loss also very shortly afterwards. Also I won't be making Stunnas decision public so this won't matter
Can you prove that you would've won the bet had the seed not changed?
No, I shouldn't have to because the error is not my fault. I wasn't told when I started betting that I should expect one of my bets to freeze and an error to happen. Stunna doesn't rely have decision to make, its very clear that he doesn't have any reason at all to refund u. I think u rely need to drop this and put it to rest. That what u asking is just not possible. There is no single small reason for him to refund u. And he will not do it. Rely i think we spammed this thread to much with this. Again i am sorry for ur loss, but that loss is NOT caused by that error and that is it ! When u got error, u coulda just say well this site is glitchy i wont bet on it anymore and cashout, but u decided to GAMBLE , and u lost and that is it.
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March 24, 2014, 03:42:32 PM Last edit: March 24, 2014, 03:55:12 PM by spixel |
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Stunna doesn't rely have decision to make, its very clear that he doesn't have any reason at all to refund u. I think u rely need to drop this and put it to rest. That what u asking is just not possible. There is no single small reason for him to refund u. And he will not do it. Rely i think we spammed this thread to much with this.
Again i am sorry for ur loss, but that loss is NOT caused by that error and that is it ! When u got error, u coulda just say well this site is glitchy i wont bet on it anymore and cashout, but u decided to GAMBLE , and u lost and that is it.
Sorry micro but I think your opinion is very biased. Any professional business would take responsibility for this error. Is it meant to be part of the game?
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Dogtanian
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March 24, 2014, 03:46:03 PM |
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I don't see why it's unreasonable in asking for a refund on my deposit. What's the worst that could come from it?
I get the error a lot too. I demand a refund if he's getting one! Joining the bandwagon. Lol. This is what will happen if you get a refund. Now see my reply to him. I have proof the error happened very shortly after my deposit + resulted in loss also very shortly afterwards. Also I won't be making Stunnas decision public so this won't matter
Can you prove that you would've won the bet had the seed not changed?
No, I shouldn't have to because the error is not my fault. I wasn't told when I started betting that I should expect one of my bets to freeze and an error to happen. You shouldn't have to? You can't prove what would've happened. You could've just as easily of won, but you didn't so you're just looking for this excuse to work, and it doesn't look like it is. Just cut your loses and move on.
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