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June 30, 2014, 08:24:40 AM |
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Hi Mods, I want to get white listed . user id: 688042 , name: Lucktime.
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Crossbow376
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June 30, 2014, 08:27:49 AM |
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Hi Mods, I want to get white listed . user id: 688042 , name: Lucktime.
I believe PD stop whitelisting accounts for quite some time already. You need to wait for the launch of PD3.
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June 30, 2014, 08:49:37 AM |
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Hi Mods, I want to get white listed . user id: 688042 , name: Lucktime.
I believe PD stop whitelisting accounts for quite some time already. You need to wait for the launch of PD3. Yeah. Pj did whitelist some people few days ago, but u need to be rly active on chat , and have lots of bets . Oh , Happy hour maybe shouldn't be announced so only people that are active on pd, on chat , get it JK, u guys will be notified also
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Crossbow376
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June 30, 2014, 09:14:24 AM |
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Yeah. Pj did whitelist some people few days ago, but u need to be rly active on chat , and have lots of bets . Oh , Happy hour maybe shouldn't be announced so only people that are active on pd, on chat , get it JK, u guys will be notified also Pj = ? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Are there any further advantages for whitelisted accounts, apart from 1000 sat (20000 during HH) from faucets?
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June 30, 2014, 10:21:40 AM |
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I have questions about the provably fair aspect of Primedice.
As far as I know, the verification aspect involves a secret seed, a server seed, and my own seed.
The server seed is always changing. When I reveal the server seed, is that seed applied to the next roll, or previous roll?
And where do I find the secret seed 24 hours after my roll?
Server and client seed apply to ur next roll . That is correct. And secret u find by saving ur bet id . For example 686082659 , than u can come to chat after 24h and post it like this b:686082659 then click it , and u will see secret seed , server seed, and client so u can go to verify it . Or use this link to see it https://primedice.com/modals/bet.html?id=686082659edit: Oh btw , u can calculate it here , if u dont know how to do it on ur own. http://www.bitcoincasinopro.com/provably-fair-verification/Exactly what I need. Thank you.
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omahapoker
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June 30, 2014, 10:29:45 AM |
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FdmcCdbC.png&t=665&c=svDUGryt2hgdWg) christmas in july for stunna july 1st just-dice and doge-dice will be off the top 100 rankings and primedice.com is the new wealterweight champion of the world!
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Brandon61
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June 30, 2014, 10:34:28 AM |
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Yeah. Pj did whitelist some people few days ago, but u need to be rly active on chat , and have lots of bets . Oh , Happy hour maybe shouldn't be announced so only people that are active on pd, on chat , get it JK, u guys will be notified also Pj = ? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Are there any further advantages for whitelisted accounts, apart from 1000 sat (20000 during HH) from faucets? PJ stands for Pokerjet. Also other than the higher hh and faucet amounts, I'm pretty sure there aren't any other advantages to whitelist.
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Gladdy
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June 30, 2014, 11:34:57 AM |
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It would be nice if PD make deposit no need confirmation but withdraw are needed 1 confirmation like the old time ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif)
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minerpumpkin
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June 30, 2014, 12:35:53 PM |
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It's a huge inc, rarely somebody plays that big. But its nice to have bigger limit. Many players from jd are coming to PD .
True, but if JD wants to skim all people coming over from JD, they need an even bigger limit than bet+profit<=80BTC. Maybe they'd be best off going all the way, allow investments to increase the bankroll and single-handedly allow the highest bets/profits available. Not a lot of people bet that high, but if they do, the return for the bank may increase dramatically.
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I should have gotten into Bitcoin back in 1992...
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Dogtanian
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June 30, 2014, 12:45:14 PM |
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It would be nice if PD make deposit no need confirmation but withdraw are needed 1 confirmation like the old time ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) What's the problem in allowing instant deposits if you need many confirmations to withdraw? Is there any possible negative consequences? Still I suppose wiaitng for 1 confirmation isnt too bad but being allowed to play straight away was great.
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MICRO
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June 30, 2014, 12:53:42 PM |
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It would be nice if PD make deposit no need confirmation but withdraw are needed 1 confirmation like the old time ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) What's the problem in allowing instant deposits if you need many confirmations to withdraw? Is there any possible negative consequences? Still I suppose wiaitng for 1 confirmation isnt too bad but being allowed to play straight away was great. Yes there are. Coz then some bots deposit, and bet all in if they win they wait for 1 confirm to cashout , if they lose they double spend that deposit , and it never gets confrirmed. So pd loses that deposit.
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MICRO
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June 30, 2014, 12:55:41 PM |
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It's a huge inc, rarely somebody plays that big. But its nice to have bigger limit. Many players from jd are coming to PD .
True, but if JD wants to skim all people coming over from JD, they need an even bigger limit than bet+profit<=80BTC. Maybe they'd be best off going all the way, allow investments to increase the bankroll and single-handedly allow the highest bets/profits available. Not a lot of people bet that high, but if they do, the return for the bank may increase dramatically. PD wont accept investments , that is pretty sure. Stunna doesn't want to take risk with others people money. bet+profit=80 btc will be more than enough , if somebody wants to play for more they will need to find others to play against on pd3 , also on that type of game there wont be any house edge , or any limit on max bet.
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Zebra
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June 30, 2014, 12:55:58 PM |
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It would be nice if PD make deposit no need confirmation but withdraw are needed 1 confirmation like the old time ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) What's the problem in allowing instant deposits if you need many confirmations to withdraw? Is there any possible negative consequences? Still I suppose wiaitng for 1 confirmation isnt too bad but being allowed to play straight away was great. Yes there are. Coz then some bots deposit, and bet all in if they win they wait for 1 confirm to cashout , if they lose they double spend that deposit , and it never gets confrirmed. So pd loses that deposit. This is what happened in early June to make Stunna changed his mind to only credit the deposits after 1 confirmation. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=208986.msg7208887#msg7208887Was this coming from those accounts with random character names making a single bet of .1 (or however much it was if there were more that weren't on the high rollers list)?
Not too sure. Quite possibly. If I'm thinking along the right lines I think the attack have gone like this: 1. User 'deposits' by sending a payment to an address 2. User bets with that deposits 3. a) If it wins, let the deposit confirm b) If it loses, attempt a double spend to an alternate address that's owned by the user 4. Rinse and repeat, to win. Would this be the right idea Stunna? Pretty much the idea behind it ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Zebra
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June 30, 2014, 12:57:21 PM |
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It's a huge inc, rarely somebody plays that big. But its nice to have bigger limit. Many players from jd are coming to PD .
True, but if JD wants to skim all people coming over from JD, they need an even bigger limit than bet+profit<=80BTC. Maybe they'd be best off going all the way, allow investments to increase the bankroll and single-handedly allow the highest bets/profits available. Not a lot of people bet that high, but if they do, the return for the bank may increase dramatically. PD wont accept investments , that is pretty sure. Stunna doesn't want to take risk with others people money. bet+profit=80 btc will be more than enough , if somebody wants to play for more they will need to find others to play against on pd3 , also on that type of game there wont be any house edge , or any limit on max bet. So there will be a player vs player game, probably something like the peerbet, in PD3?
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MICRO
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June 30, 2014, 01:03:06 PM |
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It's a huge inc, rarely somebody plays that big. But its nice to have bigger limit. Many players from jd are coming to PD .
True, but if JD wants to skim all people coming over from JD, they need an even bigger limit than bet+profit<=80BTC. Maybe they'd be best off going all the way, allow investments to increase the bankroll and single-handedly allow the highest bets/profits available. Not a lot of people bet that high, but if they do, the return for the bank may increase dramatically. PD wont accept investments , that is pretty sure. Stunna doesn't want to take risk with others people money. bet+profit=80 btc will be more than enough , if somebody wants to play for more they will need to find others to play against on pd3 , also on that type of game there wont be any house edge , or any limit on max bet. So there will be a player vs player game, probably something like the peerbet, in PD3? Yap, only it will be much better than peerbet ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) .
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June 30, 2014, 03:49:06 PM |
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Hi Mods, I want to get white listed . user id: 688042 , name: Lucktime.
AFAIK, they don't white list people anymore. That message with no template made me laugh. Stunna usually uses templates instead of hidden post. Bet a lot of people were tricked.
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June 30, 2014, 04:48:20 PM |
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It would be nice if PD make deposit no need confirmation but withdraw are needed 1 confirmation like the old time ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) What's the problem in allowing instant deposits if you need many confirmations to withdraw? Is there any possible negative consequences? Still I suppose wiaitng for 1 confirmation isnt too bad but being allowed to play straight away was great. Yes there are. Coz then some bots deposit, and bet all in if they win they wait for 1 confirm to cashout , if they lose they double spend that deposit , and it never gets confrirmed. So pd loses that deposit. This is what happened in early June to make Stunna changed his mind to only credit the deposits after 1 confirmation. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=208986.msg7208887#msg7208887Was this coming from those accounts with random character names making a single bet of .1 (or however much it was if there were more that weren't on the high rollers list)?
Not too sure. Quite possibly. If I'm thinking along the right lines I think the attack have gone like this: 1. User 'deposits' by sending a payment to an address 2. User bets with that deposits 3. a) If it wins, let the deposit confirm b) If it loses, attempt a double spend to an alternate address that's owned by the user 4. Rinse and repeat, to win. Would this be the right idea Stunna? Pretty much the idea behind it ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) The risk is very low to allow whitelisted accounts or accounts that bet a lot to get instant deposits BTW did anyone noticed more betting on PD since JD closed?
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MICRO
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June 30, 2014, 05:18:56 PM |
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It would be nice if PD make deposit no need confirmation but withdraw are needed 1 confirmation like the old time ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) What's the problem in allowing instant deposits if you need many confirmations to withdraw? Is there any possible negative consequences? Still I suppose wiaitng for 1 confirmation isnt too bad but being allowed to play straight away was great. Yes there are. Coz then some bots deposit, and bet all in if they win they wait for 1 confirm to cashout , if they lose they double spend that deposit , and it never gets confrirmed. So pd loses that deposit. This is what happened in early June to make Stunna changed his mind to only credit the deposits after 1 confirmation. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=208986.msg7208887#msg7208887Was this coming from those accounts with random character names making a single bet of .1 (or however much it was if there were more that weren't on the high rollers list)?
Not too sure. Quite possibly. If I'm thinking along the right lines I think the attack have gone like this: 1. User 'deposits' by sending a payment to an address 2. User bets with that deposits 3. a) If it wins, let the deposit confirm b) If it loses, attempt a double spend to an alternate address that's owned by the user 4. Rinse and repeat, to win. Would this be the right idea Stunna? Pretty much the idea behind it ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) The risk is very low to allow whitelisted accounts or accounts that bet a lot to get instant deposits BTW did anyone noticed more betting on PD since JD closed? Its not low risk, many people sold wl accounts. And many will sell. And yeah , there are many new players , many new high rollers from JD , now on PD .
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June 30, 2014, 05:59:17 PM |
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It would be nice if PD make deposit no need confirmation but withdraw are needed 1 confirmation like the old time ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) What's the problem in allowing instant deposits if you need many confirmations to withdraw? Is there any possible negative consequences? Still I suppose wiaitng for 1 confirmation isnt too bad but being allowed to play straight away was great. Yes there are. Coz then some bots deposit, and bet all in if they win they wait for 1 confirm to cashout , if they lose they double spend that deposit , and it never gets confrirmed. So pd loses that deposit. This is what happened in early June to make Stunna changed his mind to only credit the deposits after 1 confirmation. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=208986.msg7208887#msg7208887Was this coming from those accounts with random character names making a single bet of .1 (or however much it was if there were more that weren't on the high rollers list)?
Not too sure. Quite possibly. If I'm thinking along the right lines I think the attack have gone like this: 1. User 'deposits' by sending a payment to an address 2. User bets with that deposits 3. a) If it wins, let the deposit confirm b) If it loses, attempt a double spend to an alternate address that's owned by the user 4. Rinse and repeat, to win. Would this be the right idea Stunna? Pretty much the idea behind it ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) The risk is very low to allow whitelisted accounts or accounts that bet a lot to get instant deposits BTW did anyone noticed more betting on PD since JD closed? Its not low risk, many people sold wl accounts. And many will sell. And yeah , there are many new players , many new high rollers from JD , now on PD . so in one word stunna can be happy what happened to jD because now he got many players to bet ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) high
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June 30, 2014, 06:09:29 PM |
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Did Stunna say yesterday at chat "People need place to invest" or something like that? So is PD3 bringing us investing option or am I just hallucinating? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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