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December 04, 2014, 11:27:54 AM |
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Like how 'Robbinhood' knew the outcome of the next roll, its not hard for the house to know yours too. cheers.
Robinhood is hacker when PD is ddos. I think he give shell to PD to exploit PD seed.. and generate... Very intelligent.. But very black hat @@ |
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james.lent
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December 04, 2014, 11:29:30 AM |
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Like how 'Robbinhood' knew the outcome of the next roll, its not hard for the house to know yours too. cheers.
Robinhood is hacker when PD is ddos. I think he give shell to PD to exploit PD seed.. and generate... Very intelligent.. But very black hat @@ That's what we are assuming but we have to wait for Stunna's official remark to know what really happened |
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best360noscope
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December 04, 2014, 11:30:24 AM |
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.... you feel i cheated you or what? i dont understand how primedice can be provably fair and pvp not, it is clear that they use the same system.
This confuses me too?! " To create roll numbers for PVP, the same process described above is used with a minor change. The server seed is your seed and the opponents seed is the client seed." This means that if the last person is the house, they could cheat. Because they know already the opponent's seed and could generate an own seed that have a favorable outcome. My guess is that you couldn't be cheated if you are last to act and already see the HASH of the opponent's seed (is that possible? or you never see any hash?) Either way, I personally do not think PD cheats. But it is right to say PVP is not really provably fair. I personally don't know a real solution to it. i am reasonably confident that both of us were challenging and accepting during our betting sessions, so I was not consistently last to act. I did not consider this possibility. How would an oponent be able to see what seed i have set? even in theory? paste the bet id on chat and you can see what seed he is using. or you can look it up on https://pd3.co/ if you have any of his previous bet id (can be seen on all bets) do pvp bets have IDs? |
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NLNico
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December 04, 2014, 11:30:55 AM |
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.... you feel i cheated you or what? i dont understand how primedice can be provably fair and pvp not, it is clear that they use the same system.
This confuses me too?! " To create roll numbers for PVP, the same process described above is used with a minor change. The server seed is your seed and the opponents seed is the client seed." This means that if the last person is the house, they could cheat. Because they know already the opponent's seed and could generate an own seed that have a favorable outcome. My guess is that you couldn't be cheated if you are last to act and already see the HASH of the opponent's seed (is that possible? or you never see any hash?) Either way, I personally do not think PD cheats. But it is right to say PVP is not really provably fair. I personally don't know a real solution to it. i am reasonably confident that both of us were challenging and accepting during our betting sessions, so I was not consistently last to act. I did not consider this possibility. How would an oponent be able to see what seed i have set? even in theory? Only if your opponent is the house. The house can obviously see what seed you use with PVP. This is different from normal play cuz normally u see a hash of the serverseed in advance. Obviously PD is not cheating and I am sure they can make enough money the normal way. But just explaining. |
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December 04, 2014, 11:32:11 AM |
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.... you feel i cheated you or what? i dont understand how primedice can be provably fair and pvp not, it is clear that they use the same system.
This confuses me too?! " To create roll numbers for PVP, the same process described above is used with a minor change. The server seed is your seed and the opponents seed is the client seed." This means that if the last person is the house, they could cheat. Because they know already the opponent's seed and could generate an own seed that have a favorable outcome. My guess is that you couldn't be cheated if you are last to act and already see the HASH of the opponent's seed (is that possible? or you never see any hash?) Either way, I personally do not think PD cheats. But it is right to say PVP is not really provably fair. I personally don't know a real solution to it. i am reasonably confident that both of us were challenging and accepting during our betting sessions, so I was not consistently last to act. I did not consider this possibility. How would an oponent be able to see what seed i have set? even in theory? paste the bet id on chat and you can see what seed he is using. or you can look it up on https://pd3.co/ if you have any of his previous bet id (can be seen on all bets) do pvp bets have IDs? no but if he had made any normal bets and you happen to catch the bet on 'all bets' , you can see his seed. but then , theres - ### behind the seed. so i guess it's not easy to know what is someones current seed |
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December 04, 2014, 11:47:18 AM |
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.... you feel i cheated you or what? i dont understand how primedice can be provably fair and pvp not, it is clear that they use the same system.
This confuses me too?! " To create roll numbers for PVP, the same process described above is used with a minor change. The server seed is your seed and the opponents seed is the client seed." This means that if the last person is the house, they could cheat. Because they know already the opponent's seed and could generate an own seed that have a favorable outcome. My guess is that you couldn't be cheated if you are last to act and already see the HASH of the opponent's seed (is that possible? or you never see any hash?) Either way, I personally do not think PD cheats. But it is right to say PVP is not really provably fair. I personally don't know a real solution to it. i am reasonably confident that both of us were challenging and accepting during our betting sessions, so I was not consistently last to act. I did not consider this possibility. How would an oponent be able to see what seed i have set? even in theory? paste the bet id on chat and you can see what seed he is using. or you can look it up on https://pd3.co/ if you have any of his previous bet id (can be seen on all bets) do pvp bets have IDs? no but if he had made any normal bets and you happen to catch the bet on 'all bets' , you can see his seed. but then , theres - ### behind the seed. so i guess it's not easy to know what is someones current seed PvP seed is different than ur seed on other bets. So u can't know ur opponents seed unless he tells u . |
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james.lent
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December 04, 2014, 11:48:17 AM |
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.... you feel i cheated you or what? i dont understand how primedice can be provably fair and pvp not, it is clear that they use the same system.
This confuses me too?! " To create roll numbers for PVP, the same process described above is used with a minor change. The server seed is your seed and the opponents seed is the client seed." This means that if the last person is the house, they could cheat. Because they know already the opponent's seed and could generate an own seed that have a favorable outcome. My guess is that you couldn't be cheated if you are last to act and already see the HASH of the opponent's seed (is that possible? or you never see any hash?) Either way, I personally do not think PD cheats. But it is right to say PVP is not really provably fair. I personally don't know a real solution to it. i am reasonably confident that both of us were challenging and accepting during our betting sessions, so I was not consistently last to act. I did not consider this possibility. How would an oponent be able to see what seed i have set? even in theory? paste the bet id on chat and you can see what seed he is using. or you can look it up on https://pd3.co/ if you have any of his previous bet id (can be seen on all bets) do pvp bets have IDs? no but if he had made any normal bets and you happen to catch the bet on 'all bets' , you can see his seed. but then , theres - ### behind the seed. so i guess it's not easy to know what is someones current seed PvP seed is different than ur seed on other bets. So u can't know ur opponents seed unless he tells u . Thanks for the clarification Micro |
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CrAzy ChAnNeL
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December 04, 2014, 12:25:03 PM |
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December 04, 2014, 12:30:55 PM |
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I play slowly but surely  what´s your strategy? you are using autobet? |
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zzaza
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December 04, 2014, 12:51:53 PM |
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I play slowly but surely what´s your strategy? you are using autobet? It seems so, and he is betting at 3.667x payout. |
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CrAzy ChAnNeL
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December 04, 2014, 01:16:59 PM |
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what´s your strategy? you are using autobet? It seems so, and he is betting at 3.667x payout. yap here is my strategy https://i.imgur.com/WsOX2CE.png |
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December 04, 2014, 01:33:34 PM
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I wish you good luck, but dont forget big streaks can come, so be careful, and cashout some from time to time.
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CrAzy ChAnNeL
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December 04, 2014, 01:37:19 PM |
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I iwsh you good luck, but dont forget big streaks can come, so be careful, and cashout some from time to time.
I know for one that just lost 0:05 I got to row 40 red..  |
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December 04, 2014, 01:54:06 PM |
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I iwsh you good luck, but dont forget big streaks can come, so be careful, and cashout some from time to time.
I know for one that just lost 0:05 I got to row 40 red.. What method did you use? I even got 10 streaks playing at 50. |
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December 04, 2014, 02:03:03 PM |
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I iwsh you good luck, but dont forget big streaks can come, so be careful, and cashout some from time to time.
I know for one that just lost 0:05 I got to row 40 red.. expect more, it cannot run forever. Reds will keep on catching up sooner .. or later ... |
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December 04, 2014, 02:26:18 PM |
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I iwsh you good luck, but dont forget big streaks can come, so be careful, and cashout some from time to time.
I know for one that just lost 0:05 I got to row 40 red.. expect more, it cannot run forever. Reds will keep on catching up sooner .. or later ... I bet this user has already lost all his BTC. I lost 20+ 3 times already on 50% win chance, PD will steal ur bitcoins. |
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December 04, 2014, 02:44:47 PM |
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I iwsh you good luck, but dont forget big streaks can come, so be careful, and cashout some from time to time.
I know for one that just lost 0:05 I got to row 40 red.. expect more, it cannot run forever. Reds will keep on catching up sooner .. or later ... I bet this user has already lost all his BTC. I lost 20+ 3 times already on 50% win chance, PD will steal ur bitcoins. What are you suggesting??? |
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zzaza
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December 04, 2014, 02:46:00 PM |
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I iwsh you good luck, but dont forget big streaks can come, so be careful, and cashout some from time to time.
I know for one that just lost 0:05 I got to row 40 red.. expect more, it cannot run forever. Reds will keep on catching up sooner .. or later ... I bet this user has already lost all his BTC. I lost 20+ 3 times already on 50% win chance, PD will steal ur bitcoins. What are you suggesting??? He is not suggesting anything, random is random, big lose streaks happen eventually, and you can lose with them, thats all... |
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December 04, 2014, 02:46:47 PM |
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I iwsh you good luck, but dont forget big streaks can come, so be careful, and cashout some from time to time.
I know for one that just lost 0:05 I got to row 40 red.. expect more, it cannot run forever. Reds will keep on catching up sooner .. or later ... I bet this user has already lost all his BTC. I lost 20+ 3 times already on 50% win chance, PD will steal ur bitcoins. i think 50% is really stupid to bet with better mix 3x 5x 10x 1.05x 1.2x 1.5x then 2x 2x plus martingale = loss 2x no increasment or change(in long run,no profit ) = loss |
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BJay87
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December 04, 2014, 02:57:04 PM |
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I wish you good luck, but dont forget big streaks can come, so be careful, and cashout some from time to time.
When will big green streaks come? All red. No green. |
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