I'm starting to get fucking pissed (BFL)

[joshv06]

There are three things of a Man that you don't mess with.

1.)His Ego
2.)His Woman
3.)His Money

I have 2 pre-orders for Asic SC Singles. I have had it with BFL and their shit. It is easy for someone to say "Oh well just get your refund".

1. I am upgrading from BFL Singles
2. I don't want a refund, I want what I ordered

Getting a refund would be loaning BFL my hard-earned money to do what they want with it, and giving it back to me at no interest months later.

I am tired of these Useless updates from BFL_Josh. They need to hire useful workers and equipment and release the product that so many of us paid for close to a year ago. I don't care if they lose profit, I don't care if BFL_Josh has to put some of his own money to make it happen, they were optimistic with our money, and failed to have a structured business plan. They should be penalized, not us.

And also, to all of the "I told you so" people with sigs saying BFL is a scam, I don't care what you say. You guys just started posting as the delays began and act like you predicted all of this months into the future. You guys aren't helping the cause at all, you all just piggy backing the next guy and putting the same crap in your sig and saying the same things wanting to feel accomplished. Reminds me of "Yes we can" supporters.

Josh

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[smoothie]

My advice: get a refund and don't look back.

[troner]

I asked for refund 4 days ago and nothing has happened yet. Not even an email reply.

How long does it usually take?

[joshv06]

Thanks for the input.

I am going to post something and I think most pre-order holders can agree with me, that we have a fear of getting a refund and they actually start shipping en mass shortly after, or even any amount of time after.

I know I am going to get some slack from the above post, and I know sometimes Bitcoin mining/Bitcoin in general can be a small gamble. But you shouldn't have to take chances when you pay for a product from a company, and they don't ship out in a whole year. BFL has been keeping us on our toes since October, saying next month very optimistically every time. While we think to ourselves, "Well why get a refund if they're shipping soon". From the facebook post of them shipping "next week" (beginning of May) to their recent post, they have been practicing very immoral behavior to their customers. If it was October and they'd have honestly told us the delay would be over a year, we'd all of jumped ship to Avalon.

[Unacceptable]

Don't start bitchin too loud,they'll do the refund for you 

[tigerfree]

My advice: get a refund and don't look back.

+1

[Magnate]

A thread on a forum isn't going to gain you anything even if it does feel better after venting.

Go talk to a lawyer in the same state as BFL about a case action against them for failing to meet promises on purchases made by customers. They are what 8 months late and under delivering on specs.

But don't do it until they have shipped your unit! You don't want them declaring bankruptcy and going to jail (again) until you have at least got something out of them!!

[tigerfree]

get refund buy some IC or ASICminer .

[Bitcoinorama]

The point is he is upgrading, so he in effect looses his discount as well as is left with obsolete hardware he's been led to believe can be replaced, justifying the single for half the retail price.

It's scandalous however that anyone can openly state 'next week' knowing there maybe every chance that won't happen, or even worse knowing for sure!

[tom_o]

Don't start bitchin too loud,they'll do the refund for you  

Very true see this

Topic: BFL Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=207331.0

basically; he bitched, they cancelled his $5k order.

[loshia]

My advice: get a refund and don't look back.

My advise is - Unite and go to the court. It is US company after all. Where is American justice on the movies only or? I am pretty dam sure that there will be a plenty of lawyers interested in such big case we are talking for millions. When they see a REAL i repeat A !REAL! thread about their business and personalities things will start to move in a right direction FAST!

Remember - You have to unite first and act as ONE otherwise you are going to loose for SURE

Best
PS:
I can bet if all of you fire a claim worth for millions for preordes and another one 10xMilions for lost profits you will be rewarded with a lot of free units and all other fancy stuff coming from BFL. But i doubt it will happen because here everyone watches his own interest only and there is no community spirit at all. I might be wrong about the lack of spirit and i do really want to be ...only time will tell

[PeZ]

get refund buy some IC or ASICminer .

It's actually tiring to all the lurkers who read this forum to see people either a) bump up one year old BFL threads or b) start another BFL complaint thread. I think we all get the idea.

If you hate their business practices, either do something about it or move on. The best course of action would be for you to get a refund and move on.

But they might ship next week!  

"Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me."

[joshv06]

Are there any BFL Pre-Order holders here who'd like to chime in?

[dan99]

if i were u get a refund... why wait? Josh is probably using your miner to mined , he get double and thanks 2 you.

[tom_o]

Are there any BFL Pre-Order holders here who'd like to chime in?

It's a risk, it's your money. Do what you think is best and if it isn't, well hindsight is a bitch.

[tigerfree]

My advice: get a refund and don't look back.

My advise is - Unite and go to the court. It is US company after all. Where is American justice on the movies only or? I am pretty dam sure that there will be a plenty of lawyers interested in such big case we are talking for millions. When they see a REAL i repeat A !REAL! thread about their business and personalities things will start to move in a right direction FAST!

Remember - You have to unite first and act as ONE otherwise you are going to loose for SURE

Best
PS:
I can bet if all of you fire a claim worth for millions for preordes and another one 10xMilions for lost profits you will be rewarded with a lot of free units and all other fancy stuff coming from BFL. But i doubt it will happen because here everyone watches his own interest only and there is no community spirit at all. I might be wrong about the lack of spirit and i do really want to be ...only time will tell

No one will go Court every one here have small order he wont losse his time for 2k~5k *i think

[joshv06]

My advice: get a refund and don't look back.

My advise is - Unite and go to the court. It is US company after all. Where is American justice on the movies only or? I am pretty dam sure that there will be a plenty of lawyers interested in such big case we are talking for millions. When they see a REAL i repeat A !REAL! thread about their business and personalities things will start to move in a right direction FAST!

Remember - You have to unite first and act as ONE otherwise you are going to loose for SURE

Best
PS:
I can bet if all of you fire a claim worth for millions for preordes and another one 10xMilions for lost profits you will be rewarded with a lot of free units and all other fancy stuff coming from BFL. But i doubt it will happen because here everyone watches his own interest only and there is no community spirit at all. I might be wrong about the lack of spirit and i do really want to be ...only time will tell

No one will go Court every one here have small order he wont losse his time for 2k~5k *i think

I'm in Texas. I can't imagine BFL customers traveling to Kansas for this. I got a lot going on right now. I should just get what I paid for.

[tigerfree]

My advice: get a refund and don't look back.

My advise is - Unite and go to the court. It is US company after all. Where is American justice on the movies only or? I am pretty dam sure that there will be a plenty of lawyers interested in such big case we are talking for millions. When they see a REAL i repeat A !REAL! thread about their business and personalities things will start to move in a right direction FAST!

Remember - You have to unite first and act as ONE otherwise you are going to loose for SURE

Best
PS:
I can bet if all of you fire a claim worth for millions for preordes and another one 10xMilions for lost profits you will be rewarded with a lot of free units and all other fancy stuff coming from BFL. But i doubt it will happen because here everyone watches his own interest only and there is no community spirit at all. I might be wrong about the lack of spirit and i do really want to be ...only time will tell

No one will go Court every one here have small order he wont losse his time for 2k~5k *i think

I'm in Texas. I can't imagine BFL customers traveling to Kansas for this. I got a lot going on right now. I should just get what I paid for.

you wont get you want , you have to waitttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt tttt long time you get refund buy miner IC build your miner cheaper

[loshia]

No one will go Court every one here have small order he wont losse his time for 2k~5k *i think

I'm in Texas. I can't imagine BFL customers traveling to Kansas for this. I got a lot going on right now. I should just get what I paid for.

That is your problem as i said you are going to loose. You do not realise that your 2-5K are lost already do you? You will get 9 BTC refund at top for 1000 USd invested (90 BTC or so math maight be wrong just an example). That is just ridiculous
Any way i am not trying to get in fight with you but with your thinking you are gonna be victims. The weakest BFL point is that they are US business and US citizens also.


I feel sorry for you guys...I do really wish you to have your BFL toys soon and to enjoy
Good luck!

[Bogart]

Sell your preorder to a greater fool.