Do you believe the FBI holds the biggest number of bitcoin?

[whitefish]

Do you believe the FBI holds the biggest number of bitcoin?

How would we know?  How certain are they?  We can't tell because nobody/no one would say how many bitcoins he/she has on his/her hands

[cybersofts]

Do you believe the FBI holds the biggest number of bitcoin?

How would we know?  How certain are they?  We can't tell because nobody/no one would say how many bitcoins he/she has on his/her hands

Indeed, it seems the U.S Government now running the show
I don't think U.S will just sit back and watch the show rather jump in.
Bitcoin is spiking since January, the time President TRUMP took the office.  
I was curious though, I often ask myself who are the guys that are really pumping money in the bitcoin in the recent months, perhaps is ....
The first question we have to ask ourselves why did "Satoshi" left bitcoin??? Perhaps, the cowboys has taken over
These are just my thoughts and nothing more.

[Rakabel619]

Nope i dont belive that . In fact they are hunting it and trying to destroy the all network of blockchain
They just want like we to pay fees and to be dependent by a goverment

[Tyrantt]

Do you believe the FBI holds the biggest number of bitcoin?

How would we know?  How certain are they?  We can't tell because nobody/no one would say how many bitcoins he/she has on his/her hands

Indeed, it seems the U.S Government now running the show
I don't think U.S will just sit back and watch the show rather jump in.
Bitcoin is spiking since January, the time President TRUMP took the office.  
I was curious though, I often ask myself who are the guys that are really pumping money in the bitcoin in the recent months, perhaps is ....
The first question we have to ask ourselves why did "Satoshi" left bitcoin??? Perhaps, the cowboys has taken over
These are just my thoughts and nothing more.

I love theories like these but I'd say it's more of CIA than FBI We know that the US government made TOR and bitcoin was first huge on TOR network (deepweb) and also the maker of bitcoin is not known. Why's that? Well maybe that's because they don't want us to know rather than the creator likes being anonimous.. Who knows, but it's interesting to think about it. :p

[zomgmike]

Don't they usually just sell it off when they confiscate it?

[Slark]

If you replace "the FBI" with "the Government" then yes, it is quite possible that government agencies learned about Bitcoin's potential in the past.
And since that time decided to buy a significant number of coins, just in case Bitcoin will become a real big thing in the future (when 1 BTC will be worth 1 million USD or more in next 20 years).
However, this whole discussion is nothing but one big conspiracy theory as there is no proof to back it up.

[aTriz]

Do you believe the FBI holds the biggest number of bitcoin?

How would we know?  How certain are they?  We can't tell because nobody/no one would say how many bitcoins he/she has on his/her hands

There is a chance that they actually do have heaps of bitcoin and I suspect so due to 2 reasons
- Not sure if this is the FBI's job, but the US government try and catch people who have a lot of bitcoin and seem to avoiding tax.
-The FBI is always talking down another dark net site after another, and bitcoin could help posing to be a buyer on the site.

[Slow death]

Do you believe the FBI holds the biggest number of bitcoin?

How would we know?  How certain are they? his/her hands

They have more than 40% of btc-e bitcoins


"By July 2017, AlphaBay was ten times the size of its predecessor Silk Road (which was busted in October 2013), had over 369,000 listings, 400,000 users, was facilitating USD $600,000 - $800,000 of transactions per day"


"Cazes is arrested in Bangkok at his dwelling at Phutthamonthon Sai 3 Road in Thawi Watthana district which is searched by the Royal Thai Police, with the help of the FBI and DEA."

[pixie85]

I think Bitcoin is too small and insignificant for governments to invest in it.
If you're asking about the FBI I think the only coins they are holding are the seized ones but these will be put on auction sooner or later.
Maybe if Satoshi is really a government employee and it's all a big scam... Am I going too far?

[illinest]

Do you believe the FBI holds the biggest number of bitcoin?

How would we know?  How certain are they? his/her hands

They have more than 40% of btc-e bitcoins

It doesn't sound like that's the case. The exchange has been saying that most of their fiat funds are frozen, but that their crypto is intact, and they say they will relaunch in 2 weeks. The FBI and related agencies never stated how much (if any) was seized.

To the OP... I know the US Marshals auction off confiscated coins... but it's very true that we as the public lack the details about how much the government has successfully seized over the years. It does seem like a race against time for governments to accumulate bitcoin, doesn't it? It seems the US has made clear how they plan to get their dirty hands on them...

[richardsNY]

Don't they usually just sell it off when they confiscate it?

In most cases they are. If they are looking to auction off whatever they have seized in Bitcoin till today, they would be earning multi millions (considering btc-e coins and everything that comes from deep web markets, etc) at current levels. I don't see anything pointing to the FBI or whatever agency to hold any significant amount of coins for whatever purpose -- they are only interested in liquidating these 'obtained' coins to finance other operations.

[olubams]

Do you believe the FBI holds the biggest number of bitcoin?

How would we know?  How certain are they?  We can't tell because nobody/no one would say how many bitcoins he/she has on his/her hands

The possibility of this happening is very much high because with the amount of hiest that we have read alone is alone to go that  believe, not to talk of the myriad of several small confiscations that would have happened but because its not big enough, it does not get the media attention and because of the fear of prosecution, then the owners are left with no option then to forget about such stash of btc with the FBI.

[Tezcalitpoka]

i dont think FBI can hold anything, big people or corps. they have the biggest amount of BTC, thats why there is a hidden guy called satoshi nakamoto, otherwise we would have more information rather than his name.

imagine  at the beginning of BTC how much BTC mined by satoshi and his crew

[grermezter]

Do you believe the FBI holds the biggest number of bitcoin?

How would we know?  How certain are they?  We can't tell because nobody/no one would say how many bitcoins he/she has on his/her hands

The USA always want to be prominent in everything that goes on in the entire world,  I will not be surprised that not only the FBI but the whole government is involved in the bitcoin business, with bitcoins they can easily fund a lot of their projects without seeking funds from the central government.

[dothebeats]

I think Bitcoin is too small and insignificant for governments to invest in it.
If you're asking about the FBI I think the only coins they are holding are the seized ones but these will be put on auction sooner or later.

Almost all of the coins the FBI holds currently came from seized deep web marketplace and some from illicit activities by individuals—which are mostly related to tax evasion. Also, these coins tend to go into auction immediately, so I doubt they have that much coins since bitcoin is still a small ripple in the financial ecosystem compared to gold and USD.

Maybe if Satoshi is really a government employee and it's all a big scam... Am I going too far?

I like the conspiracies and the wild imagination. Perhaps Satoshi himself is the Feds and bitcoin is one genius tool to enslave us yet again, who knows?

i dont think FBI can hold anything, big people or corps. they have the biggest amount of BTC, thats why there is a hidden guy called satoshi nakamoto, otherwise we would have more information rather than his name.

The feds do have large controls in every sector a society has. That's how powerful they are despite being a small unit in the government.

imagine  at the beginning of BTC how much BTC mined by satoshi and his crew

That is approximately 1 million coins mined from Jan 2009-November 2009 where mining isn't really the thing of the blokes.

[laxinternational]

If you replace "the FBI" with "the Government" then yes, it is quite possible that government agencies learned about Bitcoin's potential in the past.
And since that time decided to buy a significant number of coins, just in case Bitcoin will become a real big thing in the future (when 1 BTC will be worth 1 million USD or more in next 20 years).
However, this whole discussion is nothing but one big conspiracy theory as there is no proof to back it up.

I clearly disagree with you on this matter. The US Government has the power to issue paper money, US dollars, and they don't need digital assets. They're controlling the world's economy.

After btc-e ambush, FBI maybe seized many bitcoins. We can't know this.

[subSTRATA]

Don't they usually just sell it off when they confiscate it?

I think when silk road got seized, they held the coins for investigative purposes, and then ended up auctioning them off in bulk to any bidder at a much later date. I might be remembering things incorrectly though, someone feel free to correct me.

I think Bitcoin is too small and insignificant for governments to invest in it.
If you're asking about the FBI I think the only coins they are holding are the seized ones but these will be put on auction sooner or later.
Maybe if Satoshi is really a government employee and it's all a big scam... Am I going too far?

in the grand scheme of things, i suppose its not, with a market cap (in usd) of under 70 billion dollars with 15.6 million coins in circulation. compare that to a ~4 trillion dollar annual budget for the us government. The theory of satoshi being a government agent and bitcoin being a secret project has come up before, but i personally dont think there's any actual reason to believe this was ever the case; if it was though, we'd be living in a much more digitalized world and bitcoin would have a much stronger economical presence.

[cybersofts]

If you replace "the FBI" with "the Government" then yes, it is quite possible that government agencies learned about Bitcoin's potential in the past.
And since that time decided to buy a significant number of coins, just in case Bitcoin will become a real big thing in the future (when 1 BTC will be worth 1 million USD or more in next 20 years).
However, this whole discussion is nothing but one big conspiracy theory as there is no proof to back it up.

U.S Government first underestimate the power of bitcoins. Later on, when the silk road was invented then they saw the full potential of bitcoin. And understands he who controls the bitcoin will control the financial world in the future. then they started digging for information about bitcoins and they pretty much got everyone in the circle i guess and the took over from there.

[kickero0O]

If you replace "the FBI" with "the Government" then yes, it is quite possible that government agencies learned about Bitcoin's potential in the past.
And since that time decided to buy a significant number of coins, just in case Bitcoin will become a real big thing in the future (when 1 BTC will be worth 1 million USD or more in next 20 years).
However, this whole discussion is nothing but one big conspiracy theory as there is no proof to back it up.

I clearly disagree with you on this matter. The US Government has the power to issue paper money, US dollars, and they don't need digital assets. They're controlling the world's economy.

After btc-e ambush, FBI maybe seized many bitcoins. We can't know this.

Yes we do not know, but most probably yes. We dont know how the FBI works as some of their jobs are done secretly. But I think they own a substantial amount of bitcoin from their raids, seizures counter intel works and so forth.

[batang_bitcoin]

Do you believe the FBI holds the biggest number of bitcoin?

How would we know?  How certain are they?  We can't tell because nobody/no one would say how many bitcoins he/she has on his/her hands

Who knows? If they are holding the most number of bitcoins? Possibly or possibly not? They are making some drama that they don't want to support bitcoin but in reality they are the ones who has the most or they are telling the truth that they really not into taking an interest with bitcoin. FBI,US They always hide something from the people.