Do you believe the FBI holds the biggest number of bitcoin?

[kink0r]

Naaaaaah why would anyone want control over a multi billion dollar industry that popped up from nothing.....?

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[marky89]

Who in FBI holds Bitcoin? FBI isn't a person and only Individuals can hold Bitcoins.

If there is a party trying to control Bitcoins it's China. USA can be watching it, but I don't believe they are trying to have control over it or anything similar...

The US Marshals Service (US federal agency) had custody over the Silk Road coins and other bitcoins that were taken in various seizures and later auctioned off.

If the US government held bitcoins like gold reserves, I'm not sure which agency would be tasked with holding custody. Which agency handles the gold reserves? The treasury? In fact, where can we find out how much gold the US government is holding? This is public information, right? If the government is holding bitcoins (beyond asset forfeiture-->auctions), you'd think that should be public, too.

[Kimi80]

FBI, CIA, they created bitcoin or they have control over it or have control to destroy it. I do believe in this kind of theories whenever I can find some logic in it. USA is the most powerful country and I do believe that they are creating our reality on global level. Bitcoin become very valuable and I am sure that they wouldn't just watch whole event like by standing observers. Exact story behind the cover, we can just speculate about. So I think that it's possible that they have the most or can make it worthless.

[Omega Weapon]

Do you believe the FBI holds the biggest number of bitcoin?

How would we know?  How certain are they?  We can't tell because nobody/no one would say how many bitcoins he/she has on his/her hands

There is not proof either way, besides satoshi should be the one that has the most bitcoin of all since he mined most of the first blocks, besides if any government agency has bitcoins that should be the CIA and not the FBI however it is difficult to believe that any government is holding large quantities of bitcoin, in a way that will be like admitting that at the end bitcoin is going to win.

[bitcoinVPSD]

I do not believe in it. This question makes me feel contradictory. If FTP is keeping a large amount of bitcoin, why are they trying to block the blockchain network. If that happens then I think the government must recognize and acknowledge bitcoin as legitimate. Not trying to assign it to fees

[mrcash02]

Who in FBI holds Bitcoin? FBI isn't a person and only Individuals can hold Bitcoins.

If there is a party trying to control Bitcoins it's China. USA can be watching it, but I don't believe they are trying to have control over it or anything similar...

The US Marshals Service (US federal agency) had custody over the Silk Road coins and other bitcoins that were taken in various seizures and later auctioned off.

If the US government held bitcoins like gold reserves, I'm not sure which agency would be tasked with holding custody. Which agency handles the gold reserves? The treasury? In fact, where can we find out how much gold the US government is holding? This is public information, right? If the government is holding bitcoins (beyond asset forfeiture-->auctions), you'd think that should be public, too.

Hmm, checked it now. They hold Bitcoins from criminal activities but auctioned the Bitcoins next.

I think it's hard to hide information about it. They must say how many Bitcoins they seized, so they must auction the same amount.
It would be easier to be bribed, so there wouldn't be records, but I don't think FBI does this kind of thing.

[naidray]

Who in FBI holds Bitcoin? FBI isn't a person and only Individuals can hold Bitcoins.

If there is a party trying to control Bitcoins it's China. USA can be watching it, but I don't believe they are trying to have control over it or anything similar...

Lmao.. such a funny answer. So you call the USA fools…lol. Who told you is only individuals that can own Bitcoin ? This platform is irrespective of who you are, whether in person or company, you can have an account. The USA government is likely to be investing into bitcoin secretly; these people are likely to do the unexpected.

So, yes! The FBI is likely to be involved in this, and as a matter of fact, they might even be monitoring the forum to see what’s going on (I said likely to, so that doesn’t mean they have an account, cause I’m assuming they do)

[Carlsen]

Who in FBI holds Bitcoin? FBI isn't a person and only Individuals can hold Bitcoins.

If there is a party trying to control Bitcoins it's China. USA can be watching it, but I don't believe they are trying to have control over it or anything similar...

The US Marshals Service (US federal agency) had custody over the Silk Road coins and other bitcoins that were taken in various seizures and later auctioned off.

If the US government held bitcoins like gold reserves, I'm not sure which agency would be tasked with holding custody. Which agency handles the gold reserves? The treasury? In fact, where can we find out how much gold the US government is holding? This is public information, right? If the government is holding bitcoins (beyond asset forfeiture-->auctions), you'd think that should be public, too.

Hmm, checked it now. They hold Bitcoins from criminal activities but auctioned the Bitcoins next.

I think it's hard to hide information about it. They must say how many Bitcoins they seized, so they must auction the same amount.
It would be easier to be bribed, so there wouldn't be records, but I don't think FBI does this kind of thing.

I think that the FBI as a company will do everything strictly by the book. The coins that fall in their posession will go to auction.
For the individual agents there, I'm not so sure about it.
I suppose it must be very tempting if you find a bitcoin wallet with access data that is filled with money coming from crimes.
If some of them want to make some extra money, honestly I can not blame them. Especially when you consider the source where it is coming from.

[Lorilikes]

Do you believe the FBI holds the biggest number of bitcoin?

How would we know?  How certain are they?  We can't tell because nobody/no one would say how many bitcoins he/she has on his/her hands

I would not rule it out necessarily ... but I have a hunch that it's not
Really a conspiracy after all.  I sincerely believe in the decentralization
Of money and fbi can't be manipulating our peer to peer beauty-the beloved
Bitcoin.  I don't want it to be true.  So it isn't.

[Reid]

They have caught a number of people who are accused of doing illegal business with bitcoin.
This is just a show but what really happened to the bitcoins of those they caught?
That seems like a good question to think now?

Did they made an act just so they could take whatever the accused man have or is it really for justice?
A good way to hoard bitcoin if you are the authority isn't it?

[nrvasquez]

I'm not so sure and know about the FBI. But for what FBI hold bitcoin? I think they can do whatever they want, because they have the facilities and the ability to do it.

[Taki]

Who in FBI holds Bitcoin? FBI isn't a person and only Individuals can hold Bitcoins.

If there is a party trying to control Bitcoins it's China. USA can be watching it, but I don't believe they are trying to have control over it or anything similar...

FBI is one of the biggest corporations in the world and they have it's budget where they can hold bitcoins. But I don't think it's true. I rather suppose that the biggest holder is Satoshi, but again, his existence is still not proved.

[jostorres]

I don't believe that. This is probably one of those informations that someone has made up and another conspiracy theory. Maybe some people think that because FBI has carried out some big investigations and takedowns of dark markets on deep web and thus came to the possesion of large amount of bitcoins. But they can't keep those bitcoins for themselves or use them. But I'm sure they are experimenting with bitcoin in some ways. 

We are discussing FBI here. This matter is not a light one. Involvement of such agencies is possible. Also, FBI likes to bud in all sorts of matters and technology. I believe this news to be true. Even if FBI has hunt down illegal activities on dark web, it is the same. They possess a heavy amount of bitcoins. And nobody knows what they have done with it.

[Hydrogen]

The FBI(state) could hold a lot of bitcoin seized from Mt. Gox, Silk Road, Alpha Bay, BTC-E and other investigations / seizures / forfeitures.

They could hold a lot of crypto although I can't remember anyone looking up statistics on what their holdings might look like.

[deisik]

The FBI(state) could hold a lot of bitcoin seized from Mt. Gox, Silk Road, Alpha Bay, BTC-E and other investigations / seizures / forfeitures.

They could hold a lot of crypto although I can't remember anyone looking up statistics on what their holdings might look like

I essentially agree with you

Big seizures and forfeitures like those you mentioned (though I'm not sure about Btc-e, it kinda looks they didn't get the cold wallets) are in the public eye, so there is nothing the agencies like the FBI can do apart from auctioning the seized coins off. That said, we still shouldn't forget about the numerous smaller cases involving less bitcoins and less publicity as well which are certainly there and which never make it into the news. And these bitcoins could make up a sizable amount of the whole stash unofficially belonging to the FBI. Let's not forget about the secret prisons used across the world by the CIA

[AleSergio]

I dont think that FBI(it is organization) is holding some bitcoins, eventhough USA goverment is the only one who is going against cryptocurrencies in the world. On the other hand some powerful people with a big bag of money, even from FBI can deffinetly hold some bitcoins, why not.

[mx667]

That is some easy question. The government always hold the most money and hold the key of economy. Have you ever heard about massive spy program in the United Stated ? It can be use to control economy and social problem around the globe. So if they don't have money, they will find a way to make money. It simple and easy, right ?

Why do you ask this ? I would like to make some Bitcoin rather than asking about someone's Bitcoin. 

[Youghoor]

Yes i think so, or maybe the government, but it is probably because they are seizing a lot of bitcoin exchangers at the moment. I think that the US does not want bitcoin in this world, the reasons are obviously, they dont want bitcoin to destroy the banks.

[marky89]

I think that the US does not want bitcoin in this world, the reasons are obviously, they dont want bitcoin to destroy the banks.

The US government may not like it, but the cat is out of the bag, and they know it. I think they are trying to exert as much control as possible (like they do in everything else). That means tight regulation, which also means fining and/or shutting down unregulated exchanges. I'm definitely worried for the fate of Bitfinex and Kraken right now. Hopefully the US government will just slap some fines on them and allow them to continue operating. But I suspect more action will be coming against unlicensed exchanges.

As for the banks, BTC won't destroy them. I think they'll start offering bitcoin services (for a fee), and they'll start raking in peoples' bitcoins before you know it.

[deisik]

I think that the US does not want bitcoin in this world, the reasons are obviously, they dont want bitcoin to destroy the banks.

The US government may not like it, but the cat is out of the bag, and they know it. I think they are trying to exert as much control as possible (like they do in everything else). That means tight regulation, which also means fining and/or shutting down unregulated exchanges. I'm definitely worried for the fate of Bitfinex and Kraken right now. Hopefully the US government will just slap some fines on them and allow them to continue operating. But I suspect more action will be coming against unlicensed exchanges

I think it is more complicated than that

The question is certainly about control, but we should keep in mind that Bitcoin (as well as other currencies) may be a handy tool (a very handy at that) to track down criminals (just try tracing cash transactions). I mean to say that they might not be interested in exerting too much control over crypto beyond a certain point after which folks will start running away from Bitcoin. Regarding Bitfinex specifically, I'm more inclined to think that it should have fallen first before Btc-e (since it is a bigger and thus more tasty piece of shit, so to speak), but it kinda looks that all they managed to achieve is to block fiat payment channels for this exchange, to and from