[ANN][DGC] Digitalcoin | Multi-algo & Masternodes | Established 2013

[Vlad2Vlad]

How many believers in this ancient nearly dead coin?  I see only a few.  This insubordination will not be forgotten nor forgiven.  I will dump truckloads on your heads for your disobedience, you bastardos insignificant.   

- Master Blaster

[Abcdefghijklmnzzz]

How many believers in this ancient nearly dead coin?  I see only a few.  This insubordination will not be forgotten nor forgiven.  I will dump truckloads on your heads for your disobedience, you bastardos insignificant.   

- Master Blaster

Once you start dumping I will undercut you and dump further.

There are over 30 people who are using old versions of the wallet still, according to the network tab at https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dgc/#!network and they will be dazzled by the blizzard of selling. Those using the latest wallet will also be dazzled/

[Cryptoneer]

Us devoted users are busy buying and selling.  I've gotten 20% more of it, since of late.

[Vlad2Vlad]

How many believers in this ancient nearly dead coin?  I see only a few.  This insubordination will not be forgotten nor forgiven.  I will dump truckloads on your heads for your disobedience, you bastardos insignificant.   

- Master Blaster

Once you start dumping I will undercut you and dump further.

There are over 30 people who are using old versions of the wallet still, according to the network tab at https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dgc/#!network and they will be dazzled by the blizzard of selling. Those using the latest wallet will also be dazzled/

I like dazzling you barely 1 merit noob.  It’s how I do.  You shmucks start appreciating the hard work I’m putting in be active in the corn or I’ll turn it to dust’

- king of crypto

Us devoted users are busy buying and selling.  I've gotten 20% more of it, since of late.

Good, good, making a market and profits.  That’s a good community member. 

- ShaKazulu

How many believers in this ancient nearly dead coin?  I see only a few.  This insubordination will not be forgotten nor forgiven.  I will dump truckloads on your heads for your disobedience, you bastardos insignificant.   

- Master Blaster

Once you start dumping I will undercut you and dump further.

There are over 30 people who are using old versions of the wallet still, according to the network tab at https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dgc/#!network and they will be dazzled by the blizzard of selling. Those using the latest wallet will also be dazzled/

Here’s 7 merits for having the nuts to stand to me even tho you know who I is.  Now you’re an 8-baller.  Lol

- Mr Knowitall


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[Abcdefghijklmnzzz]

Here’s 7 merits for having the nuts to stand to me even tho you know who I is.  Now you’re an 8-baller.  Lol

- Mr Knowitall

I feel like I should give a speech now that I have been awarded so many merits, but my real concern is how do I cash them in?

[Vlad2Vlad]

Here’s 7 merits for having the nuts to stand to me even tho you know who I is.  Now you’re an 8-baller.  Lol

- Mr Knowitall

I feel like I should give a speech now that I have been awarded so many merits, but my real concern is how do I cash them in?

Sadly you don’t cash them in but you can’t go up in rank without merits. 

But do give that speech if you feel it’s enlightening or your fund or articulate. 

[The_Trader]

If Vlad is involved I will give it a go

Is this the latest src : https://github.com/lomtax/digitalcoin

I will throw it on my pool and see how much I can grab 

TT

[Vlad2Vlad]

If Vlad is involved I will give it a go

Is this the latest src : https://github.com/lomtax/digitalcoin

I will throw it on my pool and see how much I can grab 

TT

Wise choice, TT.  Kadrit, can you confirm the gentleman’s question.  Thanks.

[The_Trader]

hmm it requires an old BDB version, not sure what I can do about that as I have other coins using the newer BDB version.

Anyone have a walk around for it ?

TT

[Vlad2Vlad]

hmm it requires an old BDB version, not sure what I can do about that as I have other coins using the newer BDB version.

Anyone have a walk around for it ?

TT

Thanks for bringing up this issue.  I’m sure kadrit will address it.

If not, then I will do it my way.   

[The_Trader]

hmm it requires an old BDB version, not sure what I can do about that as I have other coins using the newer BDB version.

Anyone have a walk around for it ?

TT

Thanks for bringing up this issue.  I’m sure kadrit will address it.

If not, then I will do it my way.   

lolz god help us if we got to do it your way

TT

[Vlad2Vlad]

hmm it requires an old BDB version, not sure what I can do about that as I have other coins using the newer BDB version.

Anyone have a walk around for it ?

TT

Thanks for bringing up this issue.  I’m sure kadrit will address it.

If not, then I will do it my way.   

lolz god help us if we got to do it your way

TT

Well said, sir.  I’ll give kadrit one more day cause he’s busy then I’ll move up to the dev above him, Ahmed and his boss, the Longshank.  It won’t be pretty cause I’ll have to post it everywhere, send PM and emails and post screenshots, etc.  Transparent communication is important for any coin to succeed.  I just wanna make sure they don’t miss questions from the community.  It’s all about growing the community.  That’s why I’m lead dev and they’re cooking in the kitchen some nice code.  I’m a team player. 




Either way I’ll get the answers the community wants but it won’t be happy times for them. 




I own over 1% of this coin and am an active member.  Community is number 1. Habibi said he understood that but clearly he doesn’t.  F tomorrow.  Tine to escalate now and then he will do his job the way he promised. 

Let me get my memes ready for Ahmed and Marshall.  Too bad no pics of habibi. 

All you had to do was keep your word.  Run the community properly.  1 question in a month wasn’t much.  Now I gotta snap the whip and take over as lead dev again.   

Inkomimg! 

So let’s do it my way, then.  I can’t wait 24 hours. 
These are of course pure coincidences.  Lol






——

Now do your job the way you promised, Habibi.  You think I enjoy doing this? 

Erm, I can’t lie, it’s pure excitement and joy for me so don’t let me, your boss, down again.  I can’t Stand insubordination. 

- Lead dev of 7 coins and smartest dev in crypto (self evident)

PS - if you’re not buying this coin hand over fist you’re missing out on minimum 100x and possibly 1,000x. I know stuff. 


~ Vlad - I just impaled you - 2 Vlad! 

See how fair and well I communicate.  But habibi doesn’t get it.  He’s gonna get it.  Rat bastard!!!

-  Conmunity first habibi.  Last chance, next time I’m gonna own this thread and coin.  Do your job as you promised. 


~ The Bringer of Justice to Crypto

[I’ve passed that edge where you just don’t care.  But I care about integrity and justice. 

~ Impaler of shit-devs

No response by the “dev”.  So unprofessional.  So upsetting when you invest so much and can’t get simple answers.

Tomorrow more Marshall memes that will be a bit unexpected shocking not good for a career in crypto. 

Don’t let me wake up angry, habibi.  Do your Jay O Bee.  Thanks. 


- Repercussions





Still no help or response from the dev.  How responsible.  Well I pumped a lot in this coin and I’m gonna do my best to make sure the few members who come here for help get it. 

Just woke.  Gonna drink some coffee then get started on Marshall. 

Everything is factual.  Deleting what I post makes an accomplice after the fact.  Investigations are coming into the criminals in crypto so I’d be careful what you delete.  Besides I take screenshots so it’s gonna be posted right back.

You wanted to test me habibi?

Hold my beer...





Kk, I wanna make this fun in case anybody else wants to get in the fun facts.  Ready, Neo?   




Background:


Cryptsy was the biggest crypto to crypto exchange in the world.  In a span of 3 years it was never hacked.  That’s a record so it was a safe exchange to keep your coins on to trade.  I had hundreds of Bitcoins on there. 

I was getting hacked all over the place and opening tickets to check things was timely and a pain so I used to call and talk to Horus, who had been there at least 2 of the 3 years.  He was promoted and was tech and new all the goings on there.  So I’d call him, nice guy, and make sure my account was kosher, make sure my coins were in the “locker” which was completely offline so no way to hack. 

So I used to regularly chat with Horus. 

• 1st question:  who joined cryotsy ~3 weeks before the hack?  3 meri points for correct answer. 

Background on Marshall. 

This was 2013 so in just 3 years Marshall managed to have the biggest ASICS mine in the US (remember how impossible it was to get ASICS back then?  I waited 8 months and cancelled my order. 

On top of that he was the biggest most connected baller I’ve ever seen in crypto.  He knew everyone, easily the most connected guy in crypto and he knew how to connect everyone - he knew the big picture.

•   2nd question:  how do you accomplish all that in ~3 years?  3 merit point award.

I’ll allow half hour for others to enter the game. 

These are all facts, I spoke to Marshall on the phone myself, like I did with Horus, it’s not hearsay. 






Kk, my last conservation with Horus, shortly after cryotsy got hacked.  My coins were in my account but I couldn’t withdraw so I call Horus. 

Me:  hey, man, what’s going on, I can withdraw my coins.  I had most in the “locker” so they should be safe.

Horus:  (paraphrasing) I’m not sure what’s going on, it’s chaotic around here.  We got hacked.  I don’t know how, all the cold storage coins were in 1 room to which only Big Vern had the key.  “Then 3 weeks ago he hired Marshall and everything went to shit.”

Pure coincidence? 

Recall they busted a secret service agent and a DEA agent involved in the massive Gox hack.  Pure coincidence. 

•   3rd question - after 3 years with no problems and no hacks what are the odds that you hire a connected guy and 3 weeks later the cold storage room is cleaned out and big Vern vanished like he’s in a witness protection program?  3 merit points. 

Conclusion.  DGC is gonna be massive.  Just connect the dots you halfwits.

Buy buy buy. 


When I say I know stuff sarcastically I’m actually serious.  So many cool things we could discuss here like who is Cobra?  Who owns and runs bitcointalk.org.  Who is Satoshi.  What coins did he launch besides btc? 

I can do a nice visual collage proving the above so it’s all beyond a shadow of a doubt.  And much more but it’s nap time.


You sure showed me, habibi, that you’re the boss here.  Haha. 

Next we can cover Craig and the metanet and SpaceX.  Oh so much fun stuff to leak to you clowns.  Lol



Edit:  So much stuff I forgot an important one.  Who is Erik Voorhees and what “organization” is he working for.  Hint, starts with an i.  Haha.  Soooooo much more coming soon.  I hope this retard habibi isn’t in a coma.  Lol


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[kickback]

Background:


Cryptsy was the biggest crypto to crypto exchange in the world.  In a span of 3 years it was never hacked.  That’s a record so it was a safe exchange to keep your coins on to trade.  I had hundreds of Bitcoins on there. 

I was getting hacked all over the place and opening tickets to check things was timely and a pain so I used to call and talk to Horus, who had been there at least 2 of the 3 years.  He was promoted and was tech and new all the goings on there.  So I’d call him, nice guy, and make sure my account was kosher, make sure my coins were in the “locker” which was completely offline so no way to hack. 

So I used to regularly chat with Horus. 

• 1st question:  who joined cryotsy ~3 weeks before the hack?  3 meri points for correct answer. 

Horus used to be a regular on the Poloniex trollbox from what I remember because I used to do some back and forth with him and otheres.Not sure if it was the same Horus but I think I remember people chatting about Cryptsy.This was before Circle bought Poloniex out I think but it was a long time back. Do I get 3 merit points?

[Vlad2Vlad]

Background:


Cryptsy was the biggest crypto to crypto exchange in the world.  In a span of 3 years it was never hacked.  That’s a record so it was a safe exchange to keep your coins on to trade.  I had hundreds of Bitcoins on there. 

I was getting hacked all over the place and opening tickets to check things was timely and a pain so I used to call and talk to Horus, who had been there at least 2 of the 3 years.  He was promoted and was tech and new all the goings on there.  So I’d call him, nice guy, and make sure my account was kosher, make sure my coins were in the “locker” which was completely offline so no way to hack. 

So I used to regularly chat with Horus. 

• 1st question:  who joined cryotsy ~3 weeks before the hack?  3 meri points for correct answer. 

Horus used to be a regular on the Poloniex trollbox from what I remember because I used to do some back and forth with him and otheres.Not sure if it was the same Horus but I think I remember people chatting about Cryptsy.This was before Circle bought Poloniex out I think but it was a long time back. Do I get 3 merit points?

Same Horus, he spent a lot of time in the cryptsy box too.  Marshall joined cryptsy, according to Horus, ~3 weeks before “everything went to shit” and they got hacked when only Vern had the key to the cold storage room.  They made Vern an offer he couldn’t refuse.  He’s not in China with some gf, that’s misinfo.  He’s on the beach with new ID and SS, on some island with millions in the bank while I lost tens of millions.

Nothing’s free, Vern.  It all has a cost.  Every penny you got is cursed money.

3 points cause you at least got the Horus part right.  Lol

[hornetsnest]

Background:


Cryptsy was the biggest crypto to crypto exchange in the world.  In a span of 3 years it was never hacked.  That’s a record so it was a safe exchange to keep your coins on to trade.  I had hundreds of Bitcoins on there. 

I was getting hacked all over the place and opening tickets to check things was timely and a pain so I used to call and talk to Horus, who had been there at least 2 of the 3 years.  He was promoted and was tech and new all the goings on there.  So I’d call him, nice guy, and make sure my account was kosher, make sure my coins were in the “locker” which was completely offline so no way to hack. 

So I used to regularly chat with Horus. 

• 1st question:  who joined cryotsy ~3 weeks before the hack?  3 meri points for correct answer. 

Horus used to be a regular on the Poloniex trollbox from what I remember because I used to do some back and forth with him and otheres.Not sure if it was the same Horus but I think I remember people chatting about Cryptsy.This was before Circle bought Poloniex out I think but it was a long time back. Do I get 3 merit points?

Amateurs ...at least make an effort Please sir may I have some moar merit soup??

Code:

2014-03-21 04:25:29	whats up?
0 Horus
2014-03-20 08:58:10	Koontas, oh you're here? how goes it?
0 Horus
2014-03-20 08:54:05	oh snap they have ebt here? cool.
0 Horus
2014-03-20 08:21:54	DIEM, Ill send you a pm on btc talk in a minute
0 Horus
2014-03-20 08:19:52	DIEM, who are you?
0 Horus
2014-03-20 08:18:45	busoni@poloniex, ill stop shilling my twitter now lol
0 Horus
2014-03-20 08:18:30	follow me on twitter @horusisthesun
0 Horus
2014-03-20 08:17:48	please tell everyone you know though
0 Horus
2014-03-20 08:17:35	they are sending emails from a fake @cryptsy.com account. I assure you she is a fake :)
0 Horus
2014-03-20 08:17:10	Nooj, lol
0 Horus
2014-03-20 08:16:22	dont send her anything at all and report it to me
0 Horus
2014-03-20 08:16:12	o yeah public service announcement. if "Stacy" from Cryptsy tries to contact you offering an investment opportunity or a coin listing, it is a scam, p
0 Horus
2014-03-20 08:14:57	busoni@poloniex, nice site though, congrats :) Can I mine here or is it just exchange?
0 Horus
2014-03-20 08:12:53	busoni@poloniex, Im the real horus from Crytpsy in case you were wondering ;)
0 Horus
2014-03-20 08:12:19	busoni@poloniex, hello :) I assume by your red name you are legit ;)
0 Horus
2014-03-20 08:12:00	Beer, thanks lol
0 Horus
2014-03-20 08:11:45	miningcoinz, oh cool. Well, nice to meet you
0 Horus
2014-03-20 08:11:22	miningcoinz, is it really?
0 Horus
2014-03-20 08:11:13	not a bad lookin site
0 Horus
2014-03-20 08:11:03	whos exchange is this?
0 Horus
2014-03-20 08:10:36	Anything exciting going on?
0 Horus
2014-03-20 08:10:02	whats up
0 Horus
2014-03-05 11:28:51	MarkKarpeles, just on the off chance you are real. May I please have my btc out of gox? I would appreciate anything you could send, thank you.
0 Horus
2014-03-05 11:25:45	MarkKarpeles, lol doubt it
0 Horus
2014-03-05 11:24:46	Im the real horus from cryptsy if anyone is wondering
0 Horus
2014-03-05 11:24:35	fair enough lol what is he known for?
0 Horus
2014-03-05 11:23:51	who is busoni?
0 Horus
2014-03-05 11:21:21	If anyone wants up to date cryptsy news, follow me @horusisthesun
0 Horus
2014-03-05 11:20:40     Anyone I know here?

[Vlad2Vlad]

Background:


Cryptsy was the biggest crypto to crypto exchange in the world.  In a span of 3 years it was never hacked.  That’s a record so it was a safe exchange to keep your coins on to trade.  I had hundreds of Bitcoins on there. 

I was getting hacked all over the place and opening tickets to check things was timely and a pain so I used to call and talk to Horus, who had been there at least 2 of the 3 years.  He was promoted and was tech and new all the goings on there.  So I’d call him, nice guy, and make sure my account was kosher, make sure my coins were in the “locker” which was completely offline so no way to hack. 

So I used to regularly chat with Horus. 

• 1st question:  who joined cryotsy ~3 weeks before the hack?  3 meri points for correct answer. 

Horus used to be a regular on the Poloniex trollbox from what I remember because I used to do some back and forth with him and otheres.Not sure if it was the same Horus but I think I remember people chatting about Cryptsy.This was before Circle bought Poloniex out I think but it was a long time back. Do I get 3 merit points?

Amateurs ...at least make an effort Please sir may I have some moar merit soup??

Code:

2014-03-21 04:25:29	whats up?
0 Horus
2014-03-20 08:58:10	Koontas, oh you're here? how goes it?
0 Horus
2014-03-20 08:54:05	oh snap they have ebt here? cool.
0 Horus
2014-03-20 08:21:54	DIEM, Ill send you a pm on btc talk in a minute
0 Horus
2014-03-20 08:19:52	DIEM, who are you?
0 Horus
2014-03-20 08:18:45	busoni@poloniex, ill stop shilling my twitter now lol
0 Horus
2014-03-20 08:18:30	follow me on twitter @horusisthesun
0 Horus
2014-03-20 08:17:48	please tell everyone you know though
0 Horus
2014-03-20 08:17:35	they are sending emails from a fake @cryptsy.com account. I assure you she is a fake :)
0 Horus
2014-03-20 08:17:10	Nooj, lol
0 Horus
2014-03-20 08:16:22	dont send her anything at all and report it to me
0 Horus
2014-03-20 08:16:12	o yeah public service announcement. if "Stacy" from Cryptsy tries to contact you offering an investment opportunity or a coin listing, it is a scam, p
0 Horus
2014-03-20 08:14:57	busoni@poloniex, nice site though, congrats :) Can I mine here or is it just exchange?
0 Horus
2014-03-20 08:12:53	busoni@poloniex, Im the real horus from Crytpsy in case you were wondering ;)
0 Horus
2014-03-20 08:12:19	busoni@poloniex, hello :) I assume by your red name you are legit ;)
0 Horus
2014-03-20 08:12:00	Beer, thanks lol
0 Horus
2014-03-20 08:11:45	miningcoinz, oh cool. Well, nice to meet you
0 Horus
2014-03-20 08:11:22	miningcoinz, is it really?
0 Horus
2014-03-20 08:11:13	not a bad lookin site
0 Horus
2014-03-20 08:11:03	whos exchange is this?
0 Horus
2014-03-20 08:10:36	Anything exciting going on?
0 Horus
2014-03-20 08:10:02	whats up
0 Horus
2014-03-05 11:28:51	MarkKarpeles, just on the off chance you are real. May I please have my btc out of gox? I would appreciate anything you could send, thank you.
0 Horus
2014-03-05 11:25:45	MarkKarpeles, lol doubt it
0 Horus
2014-03-05 11:24:46	Im the real horus from cryptsy if anyone is wondering
0 Horus
2014-03-05 11:24:35	fair enough lol what is he known for?
0 Horus
2014-03-05 11:23:51	who is busoni?
0 Horus
2014-03-05 11:21:21	If anyone wants up to date cryptsy news, follow me @horusisthesun
0 Horus
2014-03-05 11:20:40     Anyone I know here?

Wow I’m impressed.  Gotta give you an IOU for now but I’ll come back cause that’s impressive.

[Vlad2Vlad]

Kadrit the dev who never posts is being stubborn to show me his boss.  Let me wake up and I’ll escalate.  New day, new beatdowns for turd devs like kadrit who is mostly likely a sock for Ahmed.  Let’s play chicken. Let’s see how many coins we can set back a few years and how many “devs” will vanish from the scene like Jack Ma.  Lol

[ahmedbodi2]

Kadrit the dev who never posts is being stubborn to show me his boss.  Let me wake up and I’ll escalate.  New day, new beatdowns for turd devs like kadrit who is mostly likely a sock for Ahmed.  Let’s play chicken. Let’s see how many coins we can set back a few years and how many “devs” will vanish from the scene like Jack Ma.  Lol

Whelp Vlad, you just had to drag me back didnt you. I've been away from BCT and most of crypto for a good long time and sadly i get messaged about all this hate and brought back because of you of all people. I'm not quite sure what your issue is with me but here goes.

As far as DGC, i dont have a single clue and i frankly dont care. I quit working on DGC before Baritus took over again. Yes i vanished from the scene, poor health does that to people.

I'm especially surprised you seem to think kadrit could be me. This was the feedback you left me when i worked on IXC for you. If i work on something, i put my name on it, join the team and contribute way more than i should. Thats the way its always been, and you of all people know this.

What surprises me most of all is it seems strange to me you deleted me as a friend on facebook right before you started posting about me. Whelp, it was good to be friends with you while it lasted. But for real, knock it off. I get it, you think something's wrong with the current DGC team, you may be right too. Maybe one day when i can be bothered, i'll have a look myself. but for now and the forseeable future, im not interested
https://i.imgur.com/UmF02Pi.png

[ahmedbodi2]

Any devs working on this what appears to be abandoned project?  Is the founder, baritus, in prison?  

If so then I’ve accumulated enough DGC to take over as lead dev.  Kk, got lots to do cause I got 4 other projects.  

- Quintoshi

I am still here. I have been working behind the scenes though as when baritus disappeared everything kinda fell apart with losing access to a few important things. That being said things will be progressing forwards with a rebuilding.


-Kadrit

Nice, nice, I grabbed a huge bag for lunch money.  Say to Ahmed if you see him.  Bet Marshall is busy these days too. 

Cheers, dude, and as lead dev I’ll see what I can do to help.  I know it won’t be easy but I like me tho OG nearly dead corn. 

I havent talked to Ahmed in a couple years and Marshall wasnt around when I joined. I am working on building a new website currently with a group of devs from multiple coins as a combined effort. I will be starting a new thread and posting the link in here as well.

Nice, all sounds good.  Funny, Ahmed’s work from just last year has vanished from GitHub.  I’m a lead dev on 7 corns so I probably got it mixed up.  And Marshall is the ghost in the machine, nothing goes on without him knowing.  Lol

Cool so how many on your team right now?  Can’t wait to see the site and maybe a relaunch.  I’ll mooch 1 btc from
Marshall for marketing since we TIGHT! 

Thanks. 

nope not dissapeared, just all moved into other organisations for some which ive no longer got anything to do with, and deleted for a small few others, since i dont want google sending people to old clients

[Vlad2Vlad]

Any devs working on this what appears to be abandoned project?  Is the founder, baritus, in prison?  

If so then I’ve accumulated enough DGC to take over as lead dev.  Kk, got lots to do cause I got 4 other projects.  

- Quintoshi

I am still here. I have been working behind the scenes though as when baritus disappeared everything kinda fell apart with losing access to a few important things. That being said things will be progressing forwards with a rebuilding.


-Kadrit

Nice, nice, I grabbed a huge bag for lunch money.  Say to Ahmed if you see him.  Bet Marshall is busy these days too.  

Cheers, dude, and as lead dev I’ll see what I can do to help.  I know it won’t be easy but I like me tho OG nearly dead corn.  

I havent talked to Ahmed in a couple years and Marshall wasnt around when I joined. I am working on building a new website currently with a group of devs from multiple coins as a combined effort. I will be starting a new thread and posting the link in here as well.

Nice, all sounds good.  Funny, Ahmed’s work from just last year has vanished from GitHub.  I’m a lead dev on 7 corns so I probably got it mixed up.  And Marshall is the ghost in the machine, nothing goes on without him knowing.  Lol

Cool so how many on your team right now?  Can’t wait to see the site and maybe a relaunch.  I’ll mooch 1 btc from
Marshall for marketing since we TIGHT!  

Thanks.  

nope not dissapeared, just all moved into other organisations for some which ive no longer got anything to do with, and deleted for a small few others, since i dont want google sending people to old clients

Wassup Ahmed?  Long time.  I hear ya, makes sense - just the timing threw off the probability in my head.  But that hasn’t been working for a while so I get ya. Hope you’re doing ok, I’m thinking giant altcoin moon this year.  Soon.  


Edit:  do you know this kadrit “dev”?  He’s got a dead thread and I finally bring some interest to it and he can’t answer 2 total questions in a months.  Is he new here or just thinks the community is nothing but a thing?