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I will ad this in my telegram. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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October 29, 2017, 02:31:06 PM |
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Hash Rate: 106.02 KH/sec
Yes that's the network hash rate eg. world total. But at the same time the devs pool at charnacoin.com is at 400 KH/sec...looks like somebody is cheating. Edit. now the devs pool is at over 800 KH/sec versus network's 100... Its called nicehash some of us have faith in this coin. Also the network hash will be lower untill it catchs up. We dont all mine with laptops you know. You are free to mine with whatever you want. I prefer 64-core server nodes. So due to Nicehash it's "normal" for the pool hash rate to jump from 5 KH/s to 1 MH/S and back to 5 KH/s within a couple of hours? Looks more like a botnet to me.
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October 29, 2017, 02:33:26 PM |
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It was me using NiceHash. I am not a dev nor am I affiliated with the team. I just mine the coin as I truly believe it will go far and having faith in something is not cheating. I threw some hash rate at it to get some coins before it booms. You never know when the next btc is out there ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Which pool you were using since cryptopool.me disabled nicehash port?
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October 29, 2017, 02:35:29 PM |
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Its the way nicehash works... I will not go into detail here as it is written clearly on their own site. But.. in short... you can buy hash rates and direct them to a pool. As I have faith in the coin I upped and downed the rate as I was running out of funds for the hash rate purchased. In short, this is not cheating and is cheaper than buying the servers you have. We all have our own hardware or rig rentals. Investigation is the key ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Hash Rate: 106.02 KH/sec
Yes that's the network hash rate eg. world total. But at the same time the devs pool at charnacoin.com is at 400 KH/sec...looks like somebody is cheating. Edit. now the devs pool is at over 800 KH/sec versus network's 100... Its called nicehash some of us have faith in this coin. Also the network hash will be lower untill it catchs up. We dont all mine with laptops you know. You are free to mine with whatever you want. I prefer 64-core server nodes. So due to Nicehash it's "normal" for the pool hash rate to jump from 5 KH/s to 1 MH/S and back to 5 KH/s within a couple of hours? Looks more like a botnet to me.
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October 29, 2017, 02:40:32 PM |
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It was me using NiceHash. I am not a dev nor am I affiliated with the team. I just mine the coin as I truly believe it will go far and having faith in something is not cheating. I threw some hash rate at it to get some coins before it booms. You never know when the next btc is out there ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Which pool you were using since cryptopool.me disabled nicehash port? It was on the charnacoin.com.
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October 29, 2017, 02:44:12 PM |
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October 29, 2017, 02:47:06 PM |
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Its the way nicehash works... I will not go into detail here as it is written clearly on their own site. But.. in short... you can buy hash rates and direct them to a pool. As I have faith in the coin I upped and downed the rate as I was running out of funds for the hash rate purchased. In short, this is not cheating and is cheaper than buying the servers you have. We all have our own hardware or rig rentals. Investigation is the key ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I'm familiar with Nicehash. It makes me very happy that people believe it's cheaper than buying and running your own hardware ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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October 29, 2017, 02:48:59 PM |
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The total hash rate of all the three pools is around (40k+8k+5k) 53k. The network hash rate is more than 300k ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif)
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October 29, 2017, 02:51:25 PM |
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It makes me glad to see people happy. So if you are familiar then you know it is not cheating. Doh! Its the way nicehash works... I will not go into detail here as it is written clearly on their own site. But.. in short... you can buy hash rates and direct them to a pool. As I have faith in the coin I upped and downed the rate as I was running out of funds for the hash rate purchased. In short, this is not cheating and is cheaper than buying the servers you have. We all have our own hardware or rig rentals. Investigation is the key ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I'm familiar with Nicehash. It makes me very happy that people believe it's cheaper than buying and running your own hardware ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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October 29, 2017, 02:58:03 PM Last edit: October 29, 2017, 03:45:47 PM by spfoo |
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The total hash rate of all the three pools is around (40k+8k+5k) 53k. The network hash rate is more than 300k ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) It seems that the network rate updates a lot slower. When charnacoin.com was at 1MH/sec the network was still showing around 200 KH/s. Same thing when the hash rate is dropping. Network rate follows slowly. Maybe it's a configuration option in the pool software. Edit. Doesn't seem like it either. Where is the pool running the missing over 250 kh/s? Edit2. http://chrc.cryptopool.me/#pool_blocks show that they have found almost all blocks recently. Yet their hash rate is around 50 kh/s versus network at 310 kh/s.
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October 29, 2017, 03:50:50 PM |
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CHRC wallet is offline on southexchange?
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October 29, 2017, 04:50:00 PM |
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CHRC wallet is offline on southexchange?
Not sure. charnacoin.com pool seems to be down now.
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October 29, 2017, 05:17:26 PM |
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I guess I don't get it all yet. Can you explain how the cryptopool.me pool pulled 23 out of the last 25 coins (blocks 196490-196515) while the pool has 50 kh/s miners and the network hash rate is supposedly 340 kh/s? It's just one sample - even before they got 7-9/10 typically. It makes me glad to see people happy. So if you are familiar then you know it is not cheating. Doh! Its the way nicehash works... I will not go into detail here as it is written clearly on their own site. But.. in short... you can buy hash rates and direct them to a pool. As I have faith in the coin I upped and downed the rate as I was running out of funds for the hash rate purchased. In short, this is not cheating and is cheaper than buying the servers you have. We all have our own hardware or rig rentals. Investigation is the key ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I'm familiar with Nicehash. It makes me very happy that people believe it's cheaper than buying and running your own hardware ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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October 29, 2017, 05:22:31 PM |
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Listed pools will be getting migrated by Rishab and that exchange trading should be back online soon.
I would also like to point out that not all pools are listed. Some are invite only private pools.
There seems to be one or two members here who would like to flame the coin. If you have no intrest in it then feel free to leave.
Many of us have big intrest in this coin. Just because you don't it dos not meen others will not have intrest.
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October 29, 2017, 05:29:15 PM |
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Patience, this coin has a great future but things do not happen in two days, you have to have patience and create community.
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October 29, 2017, 06:29:06 PM |
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Listed pools will be getting migrated by Rishab and that exchange trading should be back online soon.
I would also like to point out that not all pools are listed. Some are invite only private pools.
Ok, so the unlisted account for about 300 KH/s eg. 80% network capacity currently. Maybe you could explain how the majority of blocks end up elsewhere (cryptopool.me mostly) than to those 80%? Just looking to understand why this is the case. This discrepancy affects mining profitability greatly. It makes the difficulty look abnormally high.
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October 29, 2017, 07:08:19 PM |
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Listed pools will be getting migrated by Rishab and that exchange trading should be back online soon.
I would also like to point out that not all pools are listed. Some are invite only private pools.
Ok, so the unlisted account for about 300 KH/s eg. 80% network capacity currently. Maybe you could explain how the majority of blocks end up elsewhere (cryptopool.me mostly) than to those 80%? Just looking to understand why this is the case. This discrepancy affects mining profitability greatly. It makes the difficulty look abnormally high. If we assume that 5 out of 10 blocks are being found by cryptopool.me and the hash rate of cryptopool.me is around 45 k, that means the network hash should be around 80k not 360k. The only logical explanation for this and may be I am wrong is that the network hash is the average of all pools hash rate over a period of time. In the last 12 hours, the difficulty has increased from around 3 million to 21 million. I wish if the dev or anyone explains how the network hash is being calculated.
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October 29, 2017, 08:32:32 PM |
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Listed pools will be getting migrated by Rishab and that exchange trading should be back online soon.
I would also like to point out that not all pools are listed. Some are invite only private pools.
Ok, so the unlisted account for about 300 KH/s eg. 80% network capacity currently. Maybe you could explain how the majority of blocks end up elsewhere (cryptopool.me mostly) than to those 80%? Just looking to understand why this is the case. This discrepancy affects mining profitability greatly. It makes the difficulty look abnormally high. If we assume that 5 out of 10 blocks are being found by cryptopool.me and the hash rate of cryptopool.me is around 45 k, that means the network hash should be around 80k not 360k. The only logical explanation for this and may be I am wrong is that the network hash is the average of all pools hash rate over a period of time. In the last 12 hours, the difficulty has increased from around 3 million to 21 million. I wish if the dev or anyone explains how the network hash is being calculated. Right it is simple. The a pool (any pool be it on the list or not) has someone put a big amount of hash on it. Lets say 1MH. Because the network has to catch up with pools the pool miner rinses the network for blocks. So because of the jump in hash power the miner can mine 1 block every 9 sec's or so. This in tern puts the network diff up. However because of the way things work. It takes time for the network to put the diff of a block up. So when that miner has gone the network diff is still catching up. So the diff of the blocks keeps going up and so to the hash rate of the network. Then when it gets to its peek for the hash power that was put on. The network starts to lower the block diff. And the hash rate on the network comes back down. If you go and put 1 mh on a pool now you will see the diff go up well after you stop mining. All coins do this. Its just the way they work. If you want to see for your self you just go get some big hash on one of the pools. You will see the pool hash go up well befor the network catchs up to it.
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October 29, 2017, 09:06:03 PM |
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Thank you for this explanations. It makes sense. Listed pools will be getting migrated by Rishab and that exchange trading should be back online soon.
I would also like to point out that not all pools are listed. Some are invite only private pools.
Ok, so the unlisted account for about 300 KH/s eg. 80% network capacity currently. Maybe you could explain how the majority of blocks end up elsewhere (cryptopool.me mostly) than to those 80%? Just looking to understand why this is the case. This discrepancy affects mining profitability greatly. It makes the difficulty look abnormally high. If we assume that 5 out of 10 blocks are being found by cryptopool.me and the hash rate of cryptopool.me is around 45 k, that means the network hash should be around 80k not 360k. The only logical explanation for this and may be I am wrong is that the network hash is the average of all pools hash rate over a period of time. In the last 12 hours, the difficulty has increased from around 3 million to 21 million. I wish if the dev or anyone explains how the network hash is being calculated. Right it is simple. The a pool (any pool be it on the list or not) has someone put a big amount of hash on it. Lets say 1MH. Because the network has to catch up with pools the pool miner rinses the network for blocks. So because of the jump in hash power the miner can mine 1 block every 9 sec's or so. This in tern puts the network diff up. However because of the way things work. It takes time for the network to put the diff of a block up. So when that miner has gone the network diff is still catching up. So the diff of the blocks keeps going up and so to the hash rate of the network. Then when it gets to its peek for the hash power that was put on. The network starts to lower the block diff. And the hash rate on the network comes back down. If you go and put 1 mh on a pool now you will see the diff go up well after you stop mining. All coins do this. Its just the way they work. If you want to see for your self you just go get some big hash on one of the pools. You will see the pool hash go up well befor the network catchs up to it.
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October 29, 2017, 10:49:53 PM |
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Thank you for this explanations. It makes sense.
Not a problem. Glad I could help you understand.
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