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May 21, 2013, 02:39:03 PM
Last edit: May 21, 2013, 03:27:29 PM by pekv2
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I think post count is useless. Just check how many Hero members we had running epic scams in here.

It implies some amount of effort has been put in, it prevents people from using all of their sockpuppets to negative rate people (think of Atlas) and also prevents people from creating accounts just to negative rate people.

Yes, it definitely will make it much harder to have faked rates happen.

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I definitely like this rep system. I've went through and added a rep to the ones that have been recently active, that have gave loan outs to me.

Note:Before you add anyone from the past, I might suggest to you to check up on their last activity and make sure it has been recent.
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May 21, 2013, 04:43:55 PM
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This could be an issue for people like me that "police" the lending forums.  Am I going to wind up with a large negative trust score just for stopping people from getting scammed?

Scammers hopefully won't be in anyone's trust network, so they can't affect your scores.

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May 21, 2013, 04:47:42 PM
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Is there a list of default / theymos trusts?

I will probably publish the entire trust network at some point.

is there a plan to add this to subforum language marketplace sections like:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=35.0 ?

I can add it to local sections if the local moderators want. I won't be able to translate the UI now, though.

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May 21, 2013, 05:10:39 PM
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This trust feature seems like a good idea. I had a slightly different idea that would incorporate user stats as a sort of measure of trust. Starting with the premise that users with a higher post count tend to be deemed more trustworthy; but of course post count alone doesn't tell you everything - any scammer could simply create an account and spend a week or so increasing their post count. So incorporating registration date would be helpful too, i.e. high post count and longer time registered = generally more trustworthy. But this would create an incentive for scammers to create many accounts and then leave them dormant until they want to use them. So would it be possible to have, for example, a graph which charts the consistency of posting? This way, scammers looking to build up trust would have to register an account and also be consistently active which would greatly increase the effort involved.

With this system, it would be easy to quickly check a user's history - how long have they been registered and how consistently do they post (This is already possible to do, but requires a certain amount of effort). It would make it easy to spot accounts which have either been dormant for a long period and then suddenly racked up a high post count, or registered very recently with many posts made in a short time period.
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May 21, 2013, 06:45:40 PM
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Awesome addition! So glad to finally see something like this, very good feature!! E-props!!

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May 21, 2013, 09:40:58 PM
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This could be an issue for people like me that "police" the lending forums.  Am I going to wind up with a large negative trust score just for stopping people from getting scammed?

That's what I was wondering too. BTW, I +Trust'd you Cheesy

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May 21, 2013, 10:54:20 PM
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This could be an issue for people like me that "police" the lending forums.  Am I going to wind up with a large negative trust score just for stopping people from getting scammed?

That's what I was wondering too. BTW, I +Trust'd you Cheesy
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May 21, 2013, 10:57:34 PM
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is there a plan to add this to subforum language marketplace sections like:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=35.0 ?

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Or directly visible globally?

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May 22, 2013, 01:48:46 AM
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Is anyone else concerned that this system may make it a lot easier for malicious parties to regulate, abuse, or target some of the most active members of the Bitcoin economy by turning it into an easy to use exportable database available to the public?
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May 22, 2013, 02:04:54 AM
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I think post count is useless. Just check how many Hero members we had running epic scams in here.

It implies some amount of effort has been put in, it prevents people from using all of their sockpuppets to negative rate people (think of Atlas) and also prevents people from creating accounts just to negative rate people.

I partially agree here, but at the same time I've seen a number of new-ish accounts trading with other new-ish accounts...they're not newbies, but they're not hero members either. Maybe just limit to anyone under a Full Member?

Then again, I've seen a few hero accounts create 1-2 months ago with more posts than me. It doesn't take much to spam threads with useless drivel to boost your post count.

This could be an issue for people like me that "police" the lending forums.  Am I going to wind up with a large negative trust score just for stopping people from getting scammed?

Scammers hopefully won't be in anyone's trust network, so they can't affect your scores.

Going off this a bit, maybe it would be better to require a "Reference" to successful / failed trades to help prove positive or negative trust? Obviously not fool proof, but it may help to limit spamming a user with negative feedback without anything to back it up.

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May 22, 2013, 03:06:39 AM
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Let the witch hunting begin.
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May 22, 2013, 04:15:23 AM
Last edit: May 22, 2013, 04:40:43 AM by TradeFortress
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Let the witch hunting begin.
Nah, someone can make a few sockpuppets and leave BS feedback for someone they don't like, but it won't show up unless you have trusted them (directly or indirectly).

I'd like to see a list of everyone I indirectly trust, or at least a way to see how something became trusted (ie RandomUser was trusted by Someguy who you trust) to make it easy to remove people that are trusting the wrong people.
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May 22, 2013, 04:34:06 AM
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Haven't tested it yet and not sure if I understand the usefulness of feedback when you have power to be selective of whom it comes from, but after 2 years of bothering you about it, I'm very glad something was finally made.

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May 22, 2013, 10:58:00 AM
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Did this just get turned off? I was about to try to "trust" someone and noticed the section under usernames is gone!

edit: Nevermind, marketplace only. I do think I saw this in other subforums as well just a moment ago.

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May 23, 2013, 12:03:52 AM
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It'd be nice if we could give feedback from someone's user page, for off-the-forum deals and importing trades prior to the implementation of this feature.
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May 23, 2013, 12:05:17 AM
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It'd be nice if we could give feedback from someone's user page, for off-the-forum deals and importing trades prior to the implementation of this feature.

Go ahead.

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May 23, 2013, 12:18:11 AM
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It'd be nice if we could give feedback from someone's user page, for off-the-forum deals and importing trades prior to the implementation of this feature.

Go ahead.
I mean it would be easier if there were trust links on the user pages like yours, instead of having to change action= to trust (just figured that bit out).
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May 23, 2013, 12:58:36 AM
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Yeah, I will add that soon.

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May 23, 2013, 04:08:42 AM
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Well give it some time was wondering where that trust bar came from
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May 23, 2013, 04:44:13 AM
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The ignore function already requires you to have 100 hours online and have made 100 posts already for your ignores to count.
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