[ANN]⭐LIVE STARS ⭐ Revolutionizing Live Adult Entertainment

[cantdecide]

How much cost 1 Token?
I checked and see 0.09 USD, I think is not cheap for ICO.
How think this token will make x10-x20 on exchange?

lol? I saw ICOs with tokens up to 2.50$ during the ICO phase so 0.09 USD is quite cheap in my eyes. And it doesn't matter if a token costs 0.09USD or 2USD, look at the supply etc. that is important. the x10 or x20 occures if there is demand for the tokens and as they have a platform where you have to pay with the token, the demand is probably there if users are there.

[king_of_alts]

How much cost 1 Token?
I checked and see 0.09 USD, I think is not cheap for ICO.
How think this token will make x10-x20 on exchange?

lol? I saw ICOs with tokens up to 2.50$ during the ICO phase so 0.09 USD is quite cheap in my eyes. And it doesn't matter if a token costs 0.09USD or 2USD, look at the supply etc. that is important. the x10 or x20 occures if there is demand for the tokens and as they have a platform where you have to pay with the token, the demand is probably there if users are there.

Absolutely. First, I think it's arrogant and entitled to demand a 10x minimum form any project. Secondly, growth depends on the supply as cantdecide has said.

[mikkahakkinen]

Only 2 hours left with 50% discount, as the practice shows, the situation may change if large whales come in at the last minute.

Well, something totally unclear to me with your communication:

"Services of the Live Stars platform can only be paid for using cryptocurrency tokens. Lack of
payments from fiat currencies makes us free from gathering and requesting the personal details
from users"

So, if  i want to do privatechat with model, i have to pay to her with your crypto. But how can i buy that ? I have FIAT. if i buy your crypto for fiat, then:
It is NOT anyonym.

Other side: im a model, im using your service. Visitors send me your crypto. When im exchanging that to FIAT, i must validate myself. Its NOT anonym again.

And yes, i understand, INSIDE the site/system, its anonym. But when money goes in and out, its NOT. Same as current systems.

And yea, no chargebacks with your currency, but possibly chargebacks FIAT to your currency side. Same as current systems.

Am i right? (yes i am )

[aandhaguy]

Only 2 hours left with 50% discount, as the practice shows, the situation may change if large whales come in at the last minute.

Well, something totally unclear to me with your communication:

"Services of the Live Stars platform can only be paid for using cryptocurrency tokens. Lack of
payments from fiat currencies makes us free from gathering and requesting the personal details
from users"

So, if  i want to do privatechat with model, i have to pay to her with your crypto. But how can i buy that ? I have FIAT. if i buy your crypto for fiat, then:
It is NOT anyonym.

Other side: im a model, im using your service. Visitors send me your crypto. When im exchanging that to FIAT, i must validate myself. Its NOT anonym again.

And yes, i understand, INSIDE the site/system, its anonym. But when money goes in and out, its NOT. Same as current systems.

And yea, no chargebacks with your currency, but possibly chargebacks FIAT to your currency side. Same as current systems.

Am i right? (yes i am )

You need not buy LIVE directly with Fiat. Buy some bitcoin or monero(privacy oriented) coin first. Then buy LIVE on exchanges. That is done anonymously. If you are a model, take your LIVE to an exchange and get some bitcoins. Then sell those Bitcoins for Fiat.

Yes it seems a bit tiresome process, however it is not so in reality if you need anonymity. Do you even know the first thing about cryptos? Get some education.

[Procrustes]

It is one of the more reliable use case ICOs around.

No new concept, rather, a new platform with greater anonymity for all users and fast payment for the ladies (and gents for those inclined).

The main issues as I see for rapid adoption are:

1. Technical. It simply must work flawlessly right away otherwise big FUD. Audiovisual quality must be seamless, no pixellation or dropouts. Security is paramount. Payment must be quick and reliable.
2. Marketing.
3. Camwhore quality, ie SMV, but as most youth is attractive I see this as less of an issue.

I see in the marketing plan there is consideration to reaching out to the bigger user demographics. Does anyone know who uses the competition's platforms most now? I would think crypto-users would be the most likely to use livestars, both models and consumers.

Globally, there is a spectrum between this type of business and dating, so I would expect over time similar niche competition from others for models and users as well as the livestars team hopefully branching out into the broader dating/matchmaking market, which is far larger.


 

[Procrustes]

Only 2 hours left with 50% discount, as the practice shows, the situation may change if large whales come in at the last minute.

Well, something totally unclear to me with your communication:

"Services of the Live Stars platform can only be paid for using cryptocurrency tokens. Lack of
payments from fiat currencies makes us free from gathering and requesting the personal details
from users"

So, if  i want to do privatechat with model, i have to pay to her with your crypto. But how can i buy that ? I have FIAT. if i buy your crypto for fiat, then:
It is NOT anyonym.

Other side: im a model, im using your service. Visitors send me your crypto. When im exchanging that to FIAT, i must validate myself. Its NOT anonym again.

And yes, i understand, INSIDE the site/system, its anonym. But when money goes in and out, its NOT. Same as current systems.

And yea, no chargebacks with your currency, but possibly chargebacks FIAT to your currency side. Same as current systems.

Am i right? (yes i am )

You need not buy LIVE directly with Fiat. Buy some bitcoin or monero(privacy oriented) coin first. Then buy LIVE on exchanges. That is done anonymously. If you are a model, take your LIVE to an exchange and get some bitcoins. Then sell those Bitcoins for Fiat.

Yes it seems a bit tiresome process, however it is not so in reality if you need anonymity. Do you even know the first thing about cryptos? Get some education.

ETH is almost instant

[mikkahakkinen]

Only 2 hours left with 50% discount, as the practice shows, the situation may change if large whales come in at the last minute.

Well, something totally unclear to me with your communication:

"Services of the Live Stars platform can only be paid for using cryptocurrency tokens. Lack of
payments from fiat currencies makes us free from gathering and requesting the personal details
from users"

So, if  i want to do privatechat with model, i have to pay to her with your crypto. But how can i buy that ? I have FIAT. if i buy your crypto for fiat, then:
It is NOT anyonym.

Other side: im a model, im using your service. Visitors send me your crypto. When im exchanging that to FIAT, i must validate myself. Its NOT anonym again.

And yes, i understand, INSIDE the site/system, its anonym. But when money goes in and out, its NOT. Same as current systems.

And yea, no chargebacks with your currency, but possibly chargebacks FIAT to your currency side. Same as current systems.

Am i right? (yes i am )

You need not buy LIVE directly with Fiat. Buy some bitcoin or monero(privacy oriented) coin first. Then buy LIVE on exchanges. That is done anonymously. If you are a model, take your LIVE to an exchange and get some bitcoins. Then sell those Bitcoins for Fiat.

Yes it seems a bit tiresome process, however it is not so in reality if you need anonymity. Do you even know the first thing about cryptos? Get some education.

ETH is almost instant

"You need not buy LIVE directly with Fiat."

yes, thats why all the "revonutionally" thnigs are not true. Its same as Cams.com , Cam4.com or all others doing in the industry. Visitors have to buy coin/token/credit/whatever (system inside currency) for FIAT. Thats why its NEVER private, NEVER anonim and NEVER p2p.

THEN, when visitor have the coin/token/credite/whatever and sending it to model, that has NO fee, and that is "p2p". At current systems its a new data in the database. With blockchaining its different method, but final result is same.
Visitor bought systemcurrency for FIAT (NO anonimity), models collecting systemcurrency and exchange to FIAT (NO anonimity).

So i think, Livestars guys (who are really great i guess), not figured anything new. Just replace the "old database" technology with new technology , but the final result is totally same. Meantime they have really good communication and get 28 mill usd from investors (thats nice!).
But nothing new here

[Procrustes]

Only 2 hours left with 50% discount, as the practice shows, the situation may change if large whales come in at the last minute.

Well, something totally unclear to me with your communication:

"Services of the Live Stars platform can only be paid for using cryptocurrency tokens. Lack of
payments from fiat currencies makes us free from gathering and requesting the personal details
from users"

So, if  i want to do privatechat with model, i have to pay to her with your crypto. But how can i buy that ? I have FIAT. if i buy your crypto for fiat, then:
It is NOT anyonym.

Other side: im a model, im using your service. Visitors send me your crypto. When im exchanging that to FIAT, i must validate myself. Its NOT anonym again.

And yes, i understand, INSIDE the site/system, its anonym. But when money goes in and out, its NOT. Same as current systems.

And yea, no chargebacks with your currency, but possibly chargebacks FIAT to your currency side. Same as current systems.

Am i right? (yes i am )

No

Here's how you do it.

Go to a fiat gateway and buy ETH on an exchange.
Send the ETH to your private wallet.
If you are paranoid, send it again to another wallet.
Then buy LIVE. You can do that now at 50% discount.

Then you can spend it directly yourself on the platform, or sell it to someone who want it.

If you are a model, you will receive LIVE. You will then need to convert it to your crypto of choice, before conversion into fiat. In some jurisdictions, this is unnecessary, eg Singapore, as Monaco allows direct loading of crypto onto plastic debit card which can then be used exactly as plastic is now.

Monaco is limited at present (basically really new), but you can see things should progress in one year.

Alternatively, LIVE can be sold and converted into ETH or other major crypto and then turned into fiat. If worried about the trail, it is very simple to create a diversionary intermediate wallet and daisy chain. This only matters if use of livestars platform is illegal in your nation or state, or you are worried about the effect on your social life if caught.

For most people, I don't think it matters.

[Yasemin]

50% bonus may seem a little bit high but guys: its the porn industry. When theyre not confident about the product who else will be?

Doesnt matter that it is the porn industry, what matters is that there is a lot of competition going on, so they need to be outstanding and not giving crazy bonusses

[Procrustes]

Only 2 hours left with 50% discount, as the practice shows, the situation may change if large whales come in at the last minute.

Well, something totally unclear to me with your communication:

"Services of the Live Stars platform can only be paid for using cryptocurrency tokens. Lack of
payments from fiat currencies makes us free from gathering and requesting the personal details
from users"

So, if  i want to do privatechat with model, i have to pay to her with your crypto. But how can i buy that ? I have FIAT. if i buy your crypto for fiat, then:
It is NOT anyonym.

Other side: im a model, im using your service. Visitors send me your crypto. When im exchanging that to FIAT, i must validate myself. Its NOT anonym again.

And yes, i understand, INSIDE the site/system, its anonym. But when money goes in and out, its NOT. Same as current systems.

And yea, no chargebacks with your currency, but possibly chargebacks FIAT to your currency side. Same as current systems.

Am i right? (yes i am )

You need not buy LIVE directly with Fiat. Buy some bitcoin or monero(privacy oriented) coin first. Then buy LIVE on exchanges. That is done anonymously. If you are a model, take your LIVE to an exchange and get some bitcoins. Then sell those Bitcoins for Fiat.

Yes it seems a bit tiresome process, however it is not so in reality if you need anonymity. Do you even know the first thing about cryptos? Get some education.

ETH is almost instant

"You need not buy LIVE directly with Fiat."

yes, thats why all the "revonutionally" thnigs are not true. Its same as Cams.com , Cam4.com or all others doing in the industry. Visitors have to buy coin/token/credit/whatever (system inside currency) for FIAT. Thats why its NEVER private, NEVER anonim and NEVER p2p.

THEN, when visitor have the coin/token/credite/whatever and sending it to model, that has NO fee, and that is "p2p". At current systems its a new data in the database. With blockchaining its different method, but final result is same.
Visitor bought systemcurrency for FIAT (NO anonimity), models collecting systemcurrency and exchange to FIAT (NO anonimity).

So i think, Livestars guys (who are really great i guess), not figured anything new. Just replace the "old database" technology with new technology , but the final result is totally same. Meantime they have really good communication and get 28 mill usd from investors (thats nice!).
But nothing new here

Maybe I am wrong, but I don't see how.

Let's say I am a young male itching for female contact. The contexts this occurs in are endless.

I send fiat to an exchange. This usually means identity confirmation. OK. I have to wait. So, if I want immediate female interaction, I am stuck with the delay. Currently, this is quite unreliable. It could mean lots of lost business for a platform like this.

Assume it isn't a problem. Let's say I have my fiat on an exchange and I just bought some ETH. It is really easy to move this across wallets if you wish to hide your identity, because LIVE is an ERC20 token. So, you can daisy chain a few or more ETH wallets to your trading wallet to buy LIVE.

If you are a model, you can do just the same thing in reverse and nobody will know.

If you take other precautions, eg about your IP, even your MAC address if you are that paranoid, it should not matter.

For most people it doesn't matter.  

 

[Procrustes]

Only 2 hours left with 50% discount, as the practice shows, the situation may change if large whales come in at the last minute.

Well, something totally unclear to me with your communication:

"Services of the Live Stars platform can only be paid for using cryptocurrency tokens. Lack of
payments from fiat currencies makes us free from gathering and requesting the personal details
from users"

So, if  i want to do privatechat with model, i have to pay to her with your crypto. But how can i buy that ? I have FIAT. if i buy your crypto for fiat, then:
It is NOT anyonym.

Other side: im a model, im using your service. Visitors send me your crypto. When im exchanging that to FIAT, i must validate myself. Its NOT anonym again.

And yes, i understand, INSIDE the site/system, its anonym. But when money goes in and out, its NOT. Same as current systems.

And yea, no chargebacks with your currency, but possibly chargebacks FIAT to your currency side. Same as current systems.

Am i right? (yes i am )

You need not buy LIVE directly with Fiat. Buy some bitcoin or monero(privacy oriented) coin first. Then buy LIVE on exchanges. That is done anonymously. If you are a model, take your LIVE to an exchange and get some bitcoins. Then sell those Bitcoins for Fiat.

Yes it seems a bit tiresome process, however it is not so in reality if you need anonymity. Do you even know the first thing about cryptos? Get some education.

ETH is almost instant

"You need not buy LIVE directly with Fiat."

yes, thats why all the "revonutionally" thnigs are not true. Its same as Cams.com , Cam4.com or all others doing in the industry. Visitors have to buy coin/token/credit/whatever (system inside currency) for FIAT. Thats why its NEVER private, NEVER anonim and NEVER p2p.

THEN, when visitor have the coin/token/credite/whatever and sending it to model, that has NO fee, and that is "p2p". At current systems its a new data in the database. With blockchaining its different method, but final result is same.
Visitor bought systemcurrency for FIAT (NO anonimity), models collecting systemcurrency and exchange to FIAT (NO anonimity).

So i think, Livestars guys (who are really great i guess), not figured anything new. Just replace the "old database" technology with new technology , but the final result is totally same. Meantime they have really good communication and get 28 mill usd from investors (thats nice!).
But nothing new here

are these decentralised? (cams.com and cam4.com?)

[Procrustes]

Of course there are competitors but the key to livestars is decentralisation, is it not? - ie the goal of anonymity. Do the others have it?

It is worth adding the problem of popularity in crypto is scalability.

If there was say, 10000 models online and 100000 users globally at once, can this platform handle it? What if we add a zero to each?

Lagging at every key chokepoint of this project could kill it during an exponent in demand, if design is not crash tested for extreme loads.

Any tekkies here?

[mikkahakkinen]

Of course there are competitors but the key to livestars is decentralisation, is it not? - ie the goal of anonymity. Do the others have it?

It is worth adding the problem of popularity in crypto is scalability.

If there was say, 10000 models online and 100000 users globally at once, can this platform handle it? What if we add a zero to each?

Lagging at every key chokepoint of this project could kill it during an exponent in demand, if design is not crash tested for extreme loads.

Any tekkies here?

If they have enogh servers and bandwith behind for stream, it can handle it. Im tekkie.

They are (and all the same startups/ICOS) decentralised at one point:
The moneyflow INSIDE the system is decentralised. Thats all.

But all the other things are centralised. They have (have to have) servers, where the website is and they have servers for streaming. Thats centralised and will be centralised.

[Procrustes]

Only 2 hours left with 50% discount, as the practice shows, the situation may change if large whales come in at the last minute.

It sounds like you may be trying to elicit FOMO. This is risky. It often creates FUD, drives people away>>>>> karma. (But it is a good sign to heed of.)

There is more than 23 hours left in the crowdsale (for 50% discount, per website). Even if you want to wait or have to, next step is 30% discount. (Edit, my bad about 40%)

So, I do not expect whales, whether minke, blue or sperm whale, to come at the last minute  

Hopefully no killer whales, after today  

Anyone who wants to buy, it is still 0.10 USD for one LIVE.

It is super simple to buy with ETH.

Softcap is already achieved.

[Procrustes]

Of course there are competitors but the key to livestars is decentralisation, is it not? - ie the goal of anonymity. Do the others have it?

It is worth adding the problem of popularity in crypto is scalability.

If there was say, 10000 models online and 100000 users globally at once, can this platform handle it? What if we add a zero to each?

Lagging at every key chokepoint of this project could kill it during an exponent in demand, if design is not crash tested for extreme loads.

Any tekkies here?

If they have enogh servers and bandwith behind for stream, it can handle it. Im tekkie.

They are (and all the same startups/ICOS) decentralised at one point:
The moneyflow INSIDE the system is decentralised. Thats all.

But all the other things are centralised. They have (have to have) servers, where the website is and they have servers for streaming. Thats centralised and will be centralised.

Yes, the physical location of the servers is a good question.

Will livestars partner with a server business that has all or most of the nodes in just one nation, therefore vulnerable to government FUD as we saw with Korea this week?

[Alex A.]

Minimal summ for invest from ETH (MEW)

[Korsakopf]

Of course there are competitors but the key to livestars is decentralisation, is it not? - ie the goal of anonymity. Do the others have it?

It is worth adding the problem of popularity in crypto is scalability.

If there was say, 10000 models online and 100000 users globally at once, can this platform handle it? What if we add a zero to each?

Lagging at every key chokepoint of this project could kill it during an exponent in demand, if design is not crash tested for extreme loads.

Any tekkies here?

Well the platform it self (webcam/site) won't be decentralized, right? It's the token part that is decentralized. So it doesn't matter if there are 100000 models, they can just add servers like any normal webcam portal. But the tokens are on the blockchain and won't need that much processing power. Besides anonymity i think one of the biggest advantages is the efficiency of using blockchain tokens as payment, they have shown in their white paper this results in a much larger share of income for the models.

[Procrustes]

Hmmm

The more I read this whitepaper, I am struck by the absence of technical thoughts about problem-solving in this business. At the same time, the lead programmer is very experienced and the site is professionally designed.

Other issues from the white paper:

Industry facts

"The following information has been collected based on the work of the technical support of one of the top webcam sites:"

"The technical support department receives an average of 750 chats per day and receives an average of 100 emails with various problems." (NOTE....that's not many chats!)

"On average, there are 250 new model registrations on a top website per day." (NOTE...ok, this is 1750 per week or 7000 per 4 weeks, that is good)

80% of them are the new models who never before worked on this particular platform. (also good)

10% of these new models become successful models that work in the future as well.

60-70% of the new models stop working before they can collect the minimal amount for withdrawal. (this is the BIGGEST issue for a site like this. What stops them from doing it again? Is it technical, privacy, payment or maybe dealing with unpalatable males? Did the site have feedback questionnaires for the females. Can livestars do this to ensure a Quality Assurance process?)

"99% of the newly registered male models never collect the minimal amount for withdrawal." (note - no surprise! But, the fact raises more questions than answers).

[Alex A.]

Minimal summ for invest from ETH (MEW) 1ETH ? or no minimal summ ??

[Procrustes]

Minimal summ for invest from ETH (MEW) 1ETH ? or no minimal summ ??

I thought it was less than than. I am not sure there is a minimum.

https://medium.com/live-stars/live-stars-token-sale-has-started-38c2fed6a8b7