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July 24, 2014, 08:48:09 PM
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Here is how it goes, IIUC: the price of btc starts tanking. Investor Q notices, sells his shares of RENT to get some quick bitcoins, sends those to an exchange, sells for USD. Later, when the price stops dropping, he uses the USD to buy more btc, then uses that to buy back the shares he sold. I just don't think it would work, timing the swings in prices would be tricky and you would end up with your bitcoins waiting for confirms while you watch the price plummet, when they finally get to the exchange and you sell the price might swing up again and you end up buying back in for less than you sold.

Well the theory I'm referencing applies to much more liquid markets (i.e. with a large number of entrants and departures on a daily basis and a high, consistent trading volume relative to the outstanding shares).  But generally even in this market, Investor Q would sell RENT to BTC to USD and then some time later Investor P comes in, buys BTC at a low price, waits until RENT (or whatever equity referenced) hits an analogously low price, and then buys in with a 'profit buffer' of sorts.

You're right - its a big gamble for Investor Q to try and short something like RENT across multiple markets.  That type of trade has price and forex risk attached to it (the forex risk with BTC USD volatility is particularly nasty as we all well know).

In highly liquid markets, this happens in a very short time frame, especially with the advent of HFT.


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Here is how it goes, IIUC: the price of btc starts tanking. Investor Q notices, sells his shares of RENT to get some quick bitcoins, sends those to an exchange, sells for USD. Later, when the price stops dropping, he uses the USD to buy more btc, then uses that to buy back the shares he sold. I just don't think it would work, timing the swings in prices would be tricky and you would end up with your bitcoins waiting for confirms while you watch the price plummet, when they finally get to the exchange and you sell the price might swing up again and you end up buying back in for less than you sold.

But YOU realize that is the exact opposite of what one should be doing, if RENT is indeed a hedge against BTC, right?
A rational investor would HODL RENT when BTC tanks, that's what hedging means.
Assume that there is an "underlying asset value" of RENT.  This value, denominated in dollars, should remain constant or increase.  Otherwise it makes no sense to hold, under any market conditions.
Why introduce the nonsense of selling, converting BTC=>USD, and waiting to buy at a lower price, which (if RENT is indeed holding or increasing its USD value) would *rationally* only go UP, not down?

*I'm not saying that people here don't do it--I'm sure they do--simply that it's stupid.

TL;DR:  If you believe that the value of Branny's thing is increasing when measured in dollars, days like today are what you're waiting for.  The price of your "virtual units" should go up by the same amount that the price of BTC goes down.  Not saying it will (because irrational, illiquid and counterparty risks), merely that theoretically, it should.
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Here is how it goes, IIUC: the price of btc starts tanking. Investor Q notices, sells his shares of RENT to get some quick bitcoins, sends those to an exchange, sells for USD. Later, when the price stops dropping, he uses the USD to buy more btc, then uses that to buy back the shares he sold. I just don't think it would work, timing the swings in prices would be tricky and you would end up with your bitcoins waiting for confirms while you watch the price plummet, when they finally get to the exchange and you sell the price might swing up again and you end up buying back in for less than you sold.

But YOU realize that is the exact opposite of what one should be doing, if RENT is indeed a hedge against BTC, right?
A rational investor would HODL RENT when BTC tanks, that's what hedging means.
Assume that there is an "underlying asset value" of RENT.  This value, denominated in dollars, should remain constant or increase.  Otherwise it makes no sense to hold, under any market conditions.
Why introduce the nonsense of selling, converting BTC=>USD, and waiting to buy at a lower price, which (if RENT is indeed holding or increasing its USD value) would *rationally* only go UP, not down?

*I'm not saying that people here don't do it--I'm sure they do--simply that it's stupid.

TL;DR:  If you believe that the value of Branny's thing is increasing when measured in dollars, days like today are what you're waiting for.  The price of your "virtual units" should go up by the same amount that the price of BTC goes down.  Not saying it will (because irrational, illiquid and counterparty risks), merely that theoretically, it should.

Right, this whole discussion is assuming that everyone is a rational investor. 

Some holders might have a need for cash and would rather not sell their higher-yielding BTC-denominated assets (i.e. if you hold PETA or BDD, which pay more frequently).  You have bid-side liquidity, compounding opportunities, and price forecasts post-BTC/USD adjustment to weigh, so each holder's choices may be different depending on their preference for risk.  Some people might even just be holding RENT just until Branny announces securing the next mortgage/readies the next house for renters, which ceteris paribus would presumably boost the price for a quick return on price appreciation.

TL;DR people might value RENT for different reasons (long-term growth potential, quick flip, hedge position in portfolio) so its a game of roulette guessing what the price might do in response to BTC price changes - we're all blind to other holders' preferences and strategies


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Lol, then we agree!  remember what started all this?  My suggesting that there's little correlation between what should and what does happen?  I even shooped up a fancy (but hideous) chart? Cheesy



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There are dozens of factors that effect the stock. Rational investors should be able to quickly analyze the price of the stock in terms of USD, the total USD value of assets, and then decide whether the ask price is sufficient to buy more stock.

In reality there are factors like USD/BTC prices, FUD, exchange related risks/concerns/fud, liquidity concerns relating to the exchange, investor personal financial situations, and many others.

From my end, I can see most of the market volatility is controlled by a small group of people, while the major/established investors continue to slowly buy more shares over time. This is why we have such little sales depth compared to buy depth. If an established investor wanted to buy say $20k of RENT stock, based on the depth available, the per-share stock price would run out to something like $35/share which is a increase of 10x.

On another note, I'd like to schedule a conference call or similar with all investors to go over the projects we're working on and our outlook for the next 3 months.
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From my end, I can see most of the market volatility is controlled by a small group of people, while the major/established investors continue to slowly buy more shares over time. This is why we have such little sales depth compared to buy depth...

Lol, that's because all the selling is done directly into the bids, via market orders.  And how! Roll Eyes



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Lol, stackin' that cheddar! Smiley


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Lol, like clockwork!  Teh Twins are coverin' their tracks Roll Eyes
A bit too late, but it's the thought that counts, amiright? Cheesy


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My name is Brandon Schlichter, I’m a 23 year old real estate agent & Entrepreneur in Circleville, Ohio.

I’ve been involved in real estate since 2002, and internet marketing and advertising since 2000. In fact, internet marketing led me to real estate (Through a 3 year time span of trying to acquire a large tract of commercial Real Estate to expand our online business).

The failures of the past have brought me to where I am now, maybe I’ll share the long drawn out story some day later, but now is not that time.

The goal of this website is to show YOU how to make money in today’s economy. In fact, I’m going to try to show everyone how to become reasonably wealthy through a process I will develop over time.

The great part of this is that you will learn as I learn , and hopefully save you time and money in the process.

The process goes like this : Personal Income > Real Estate Investment > Intellectual Property & Business Purchases > Bulk Assets and other Commodities

If everything goes right, I’ll be able to develop a multi-million dollar income, and help a lot of people at the same time.

All the website articles will contain information on things that I am doing to produce money , or specialized articles for real estate related ventures.

I am in the first 2 phases of the project, Personal Income & Real Estate Investment. I have worked with my brother in the field of REI , and produced good results overall to grow capital. Unfortunately my personal capital reserves aren’t as good as they should be to purchase investments.

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By the way, BRANDON SCHLICHTER has an interesting Internet history which reinforces the assumption he is an Internet marketeer:

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Inasmuch as gambling is one of the greatest blights of our society and is an encroachment upon every segment of life, it becomes necessary for the General Board of the United Pentecostal Church International to address the issue of gambling.

The following is a position paper from the highest Board of our church addressing this moral fungus that eats at the very core and fabric of our society.

Gambling has been defined as "to bet on an uncertain outcome, to stake something on a contingency, playing the game of chance for stakes."

There are those who do not feel the Bible clearly speaks out against this malady. Our consensus is that the Bible speaks to the gambling issue as it does to all the issues of life.

The moral ideals of the Bible and the Bible's insistence on obedience to the will of God are crucial for our examination and assessment of any issue involving human behavior, including the issues of gambling. Biblical faith with its emphasis on loyalty to God and its call to a life of trust tolerates no bowing of the knee to luck and no dependence on chance. Gambling appears to offer something for nothing when in reality it is nothing for something.

The first clear and direct reference to gambling occurs in Isaiah 65:11:"But ye are they that forsake the Lord, that forget my holy mountain, that prepare a table for the troop, and that furnish the drink offering unto the number." The prophet's protest was against those Israelites who trusted in the false gods of chance rather than in the living God.

Matthew 27:35 states they cast lots, or threw dice, for our Lord's garments. Could it be that one of the last things our Lord beheld during His cross experience was gamblers at Golgotha.

James 5:1-6 speaks of rich men who defraud the less fortunate for their personal gain.

Proverbs 23:4-5 is also a strong indictment. It reads, "Labor not to be rich; cease from thine own wisdom. Wilt thou set thine eyes upon that which is not? for riches certainly make themselves wings; they fly away as an eagle toward heaven."

Corinthians 6:8-10 teaches us contentment. Gambling, lottery, casinos create a spirit of covetousness which opposes the plain teaching of the Scriptures. Jesus further underscored this in Luke 12:15 when He warned, "Beware of covetousness."

Corinthians 10:21 declares you cannot drink of the cup of the Lord and eat at the devil's table. Is a gambling table anything less than that of Satan?

Gambling violates the Biblical principles of stewardship with regard to property, money, and its appropriate use. The Bible blesses the use of money or property which are in accord with the intention of God. Thus, money may be used to provide for our basic needs (II Thessalonians 3:10), support of one's family (I Timothy 5:Cool, to contribute to the Lord's work (I Corinthians 16:1-3), to meet human need (Ephesians 4:28, II Corinthians 9:6-15), to give to the poor (John 13:29), to pay taxes (Matthew 22:21, Romans 13:7). Such conscientious handling of one's resources precludes gambling. Giving to a game of chance with the blessings of God is not mentioned anywhere in the Holy Writ.

Gambling is greed and exploitation of others. It ignores the command to love our neighbor. We are enjoined to abstain from all appearance of evil (I Thessalonians 5:22), to hate what is evil (Romans 12:9). The actions of the individual Christian are to be disciplined toward the moral and spiritual welfare of others (Romans 14:13-21). Our influence as Christians is to be exerted in a positive, aggressive and godly fashion for the building of a Christian influence in the community.

Gambling contributes nothing to the common good. It undermines values, mocks work, finances crime, robs children, enslaves its addicts, subverts government, and poisons whatever it touches. Biblical insights lead us to reject the false promise of gambling and to cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit.

There are those who state that the activity of gambling is no more than any other activity of life that involves risk. They will mention the purchasing of stock. They will mention the purchasing of property that may decline in value, insurance, or other investments. They say that since the outcome is unpredictable, loss can occur. This, they proclaim, is the same as gambling.

L. M. Starkey, Jr. made the following helpful observation:" Life does have its normal risk which one must accept with faith and courage. These normal risks are in no sense equivalent to the risk in a game of chance. Gambling devises artificial risks in the hope of excessive gain far beyond what the investment of time, money, or skill would justify. In gambling, the chance is unrelated to any creative effort called for by the farmer or stock broker in the responsible investment of mental, monetary, and physical funds."

It has been well-stated that gambling is recognized as any activity in which wealth changes hands, mainly on the basis of chance and with risk to the gambler. Creative effort, useful skills, and responsible investments are not integral factors.

The General Board of the United Apostolic Church International, on behalf of our constituency, does firmly affirm its conviction that gambling is both un-Biblical and morally wrong. Politicians may tell us that it is the way to raise revenue for the needs of education, roads, etc. If something is morally wrong it cannot possibly be politically right.

Gambling is wrong because it is addictive. Gambling is wrong because it is not consistent with the scriptural work ethic. Gambling is wrong because it ignores valid stewardship. Gambling is wrong because it involves monetary gain to the hurt and suffering of the less fortunate.

In the light of Biblical revelation, we cannot sit idly by while this plague rips our nation apart. Neutrality is impossible. There are certain responsibilities to speak out. We cannot ignore them. We urge those who want to live in harmony with the Almighty and whose lives are dedicated to His pleasure to refrain from any form of gambling. We call upon our people everywhere to do all within their power to discourage the legalization of gambling.

If Brandon Schlichter and Benjamin Schlichter are willing to go against their God's wishes opting to spread the joys of gambling to their own brothers and sisters who'll forever then be sent to Hell for partaking, imagine how far they'll reach to fuck their fellow Bitcoiner, many of which not in their, or any other, fold.

Have mercy on your souls!



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Was would be a more accurate term.

In 2008 I got started in SEOing websites, if you do some digging you'll find out I had something like 300 websites at one time. Over 2010-2013 I built my own SEO firm that took on hundreds of clients representing thousands of different websites, projects, ads and promotions over the time.

In 2013 shortly after the launch of RentalStarter I sold off that business so I could focus entirely on the real estate stuff. I own at most 20 domains.

Many domains that are showing me still as the whois registrant were sold when I sold my company and the individual who purchased them has not removed my contact details for the websites.
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By the way, BRANDON SCHLICHTER has an interesting Internet history which reinforces the assumption he is an Internet marketeer:

http://67.55.78.246/contact.html

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The next Internet domains are linked with the email address brandon@1337ventures.com:

5gbs.com
casino-now.com
fadedb.com
fitnessoneweb.com
iraqproject.org
refurbishedusedcomputers.com
rentalstarter.com
spaceopedia.com
wisadphi.org
e-pers.com
e-person.com
capital-a-limited.com
Native-american-bus.org
Smallcore.org
Specsoftus.com
Vinaviec.com
new-hiphop-songs.com
spector45.com
apru2011mh.com
Fskf999.com
Microtelcos.org
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Was would be a more accurate term.

In 2008 I got started in SEOing websites, if you do some digging you'll find out I had something like 300 websites at one time. Over 2010-2013 I built my own SEO firm that took on hundreds of clients representing thousands of different websites, projects, ads and promotions over the time.

In 2013 shortly after the launch of RentalStarter I sold off that business so I could focus entirely on the real estate stuff. I own at most 20 domains.

Many domains that are showing me still as the whois registrant were sold when I sold my company and the individual who purchased them has not removed my contact details for the websites.

Pretty smart move, if I say so myself, even allowing the new owner to continue using your name on some them websites linking to your personal social media sites and logging into said social media sites to comment on the latest. Must me a special Bother allowed to set in one of the front pews while you and your twin brother are in the back shooting marshmallows at one another.

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July 27, 2014, 06:20:35 PM
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By the way, BRANDON SCHLICHTER has an interesting Internet history which reinforces the assumption he is an Internet marketeer:

http://67.55.78.246/contact.html

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The next Internet domains are linked with the email address brandon@1337ventures.com:

5gbs.com
casino-now.com
fadedb.com
fitnessoneweb.com
iraqproject.org
refurbishedusedcomputers.com
rentalstarter.com
spaceopedia.com
wisadphi.org
e-pers.com
e-person.com
capital-a-limited.com
Native-american-bus.org
Smallcore.org
Specsoftus.com
Vinaviec.com
new-hiphop-songs.com
spector45.com
apru2011mh.com
Fskf999.com
Microtelcos.org
Changshahr.net


Was would be a more accurate term.

In 2008 I got started in SEOing websites, if you do some digging you'll find out I had something like 300 websites at one time. Over 2010-2013 I built my own SEO firm that took on hundreds of clients representing thousands of different websites, projects, ads and promotions over the time.

In 2013 shortly after the launch of RentalStarter I sold off that business so I could focus entirely on the real estate stuff. I own at most 20 domains.

Many domains that are showing me still as the whois registrant were sold when I sold my company and the individual who purchased them has not removed my contact details for the websites.

Pretty smart move, if I say so myself, even allowing the new owner to continue using your name on some them websites linking to your personal social media sites and logging into said social media sites to comment on the latest. Must me a special Bother allowed to set in one of the front pews while you and your twin brother are in the back shooting marshmallows at one another.

It certainly wasn't intended to let him carry over my whois data, it's really not something that the registars like to see. Unfortunately once they're transfered to the new account I don't have much of a choice whether they change whois details or not. Sure I could sue them, but my assumption was that they would update the details upon renewal. That *should* happen this september when the 1st year renewal is to go through with the new registrant.
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In 2013 shortly after the launch of RentalStarter I sold off that business so I could focus entirely on the real estate stuff. I own at most 20 domains.

May I suggest you disclose which 20 domains you do have control, otherwise people may associate you still with the ones you may no longer administer, i.e. http://gsmonitor.org/articles/capital-a-limited.html

http://ihyips.com/details-3338.html



Looks like the guy who supposedly now owns the domain was also once in damage control: http://mmgp.ru/showthread.php?t=123566


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By the way, BRANDON SCHLICHTER has an interesting Internet history which reinforces the assumption he is an Internet marketeer:

http://67.55.78.246/contact.html

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The next Internet domains are linked with the email address brandon@1337ventures.com:

5gbs.com
casino-now.com
fadedb.com
fitnessoneweb.com
iraqproject.org
refurbishedusedcomputers.com
rentalstarter.com
spaceopedia.com
wisadphi.org
e-pers.com
e-person.com
capital-a-limited.com
Native-american-bus.org
Smallcore.org
Specsoftus.com
Vinaviec.com
new-hiphop-songs.com
spector45.com
apru2011mh.com
Fskf999.com
Microtelcos.org
Changshahr.net


Let's just cut to the chase: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOPRgoFj4B0



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In case Brandon and Benjamin Schlichter missed the Sunday services where the following was preached, I present it here in all its glory.

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Inasmuch as gambling is one of the greatest blights of our society and is an encroachment upon every segment of life, it becomes necessary for the General Board of the United Pentecostal Church International to address the issue of gambling.

The following is a position paper from the highest Board of our church addressing this moral fungus that eats at the very core and fabric of our society.

Gambling has been defined as "to bet on an uncertain outcome, to stake something on a contingency, playing the game of chance for stakes."

There are those who do not feel the Bible clearly speaks out against this malady. Our consensus is that the Bible speaks to the gambling issue as it does to all the issues of life.

The moral ideals of the Bible and the Bible's insistence on obedience to the will of God are crucial for our examination and assessment of any issue involving human behavior, including the issues of gambling. Biblical faith with its emphasis on loyalty to God and its call to a life of trust tolerates no bowing of the knee to luck and no dependence on chance. Gambling appears to offer something for nothing when in reality it is nothing for something.

The first clear and direct reference to gambling occurs in Isaiah 65:11:"But ye are they that forsake the Lord, that forget my holy mountain, that prepare a table for the troop, and that furnish the drink offering unto the number." The prophet's protest was against those Israelites who trusted in the false gods of chance rather than in the living God.

Matthew 27:35 states they cast lots, or threw dice, for our Lord's garments. Could it be that one of the last things our Lord beheld during His cross experience was gamblers at Golgotha.

James 5:1-6 speaks of rich men who defraud the less fortunate for their personal gain.

Proverbs 23:4-5 is also a strong indictment. It reads, "Labor not to be rich; cease from thine own wisdom. Wilt thou set thine eyes upon that which is not? for riches certainly make themselves wings; they fly away as an eagle toward heaven."

Corinthians 6:8-10 teaches us contentment. Gambling, lottery, casinos create a spirit of covetousness which opposes the plain teaching of the Scriptures. Jesus further underscored this in Luke 12:15 when He warned, "Beware of covetousness."

Corinthians 10:21 declares you cannot drink of the cup of the Lord and eat at the devil's table. Is a gambling table anything less than that of Satan?

Gambling violates the Biblical principles of stewardship with regard to property, money, and its appropriate use. The Bible blesses the use of money or property which are in accord with the intention of God. Thus, money may be used to provide for our basic needs (II Thessalonians 3:10), support of one's family (I Timothy 5:Cool, to contribute to the Lord's work (I Corinthians 16:1-3), to meet human need (Ephesians 4:28, II Corinthians 9:6-15), to give to the poor (John 13:29), to pay taxes (Matthew 22:21, Romans 13:7). Such conscientious handling of one's resources precludes gambling. Giving to a game of chance with the blessings of God is not mentioned anywhere in the Holy Writ.

Gambling is greed and exploitation of others. It ignores the command to love our neighbor. We are enjoined to abstain from all appearance of evil (I Thessalonians 5:22), to hate what is evil (Romans 12:9). The actions of the individual Christian are to be disciplined toward the moral and spiritual welfare of others (Romans 14:13-21). Our influence as Christians is to be exerted in a positive, aggressive and godly fashion for the building of a Christian influence in the community.

Gambling contributes nothing to the common good. It undermines values, mocks work, finances crime, robs children, enslaves its addicts, subverts government, and poisons whatever it touches. Biblical insights lead us to reject the false promise of gambling and to cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit.

There are those who state that the activity of gambling is no more than any other activity of life that involves risk. They will mention the purchasing of stock. They will mention the purchasing of property that may decline in value, insurance, or other investments. They say that since the outcome is unpredictable, loss can occur. This, they proclaim, is the same as gambling.

L. M. Starkey, Jr. made the following helpful observation:" Life does have its normal risk which one must accept with faith and courage. These normal risks are in no sense equivalent to the risk in a game of chance. Gambling devises artificial risks in the hope of excessive gain far beyond what the investment of time, money, or skill would justify. In gambling, the chance is unrelated to any creative effort called for by the farmer or stock broker in the responsible investment of mental, monetary, and physical funds."

It has been well-stated that gambling is recognized as any activity in which wealth changes hands, mainly on the basis of chance and with risk to the gambler. Creative effort, useful skills, and responsible investments are not integral factors.

The General Board of the United Apostolic Church International, on behalf of our constituency, does firmly affirm its conviction that gambling is both un-Biblical and morally wrong. Politicians may tell us that it is the way to raise revenue for the needs of education, roads, etc. If something is morally wrong it cannot possibly be politically right.

Gambling is wrong because it is addictive. Gambling is wrong because it is not consistent with the scriptural work ethic. Gambling is wrong because it ignores valid stewardship. Gambling is wrong because it involves monetary gain to the hurt and suffering of the less fortunate.

In the light of Biblical revelation, we cannot sit idly by while this plague rips our nation apart. Neutrality is impossible. There are certain responsibilities to speak out. We cannot ignore them. We urge those who want to live in harmony with the Almighty and whose lives are dedicated to His pleasure to refrain from any form of gambling. We call upon our people everywhere to do all within their power to discourage the legalization of gambling.

If Brandon Schlichter and Benjamin Schlichter are willing to go against their God's wishes opting to spread the joys of gambling to their own brothers and sisters who'll forever then be sent to Hell for partaking, imagine how far they'll reach to fuck their fellow Bitcoiner, many of which not in their, or any other, fold.

Have mercy on your souls!



To be clear, the Pentecostal Church is the one Brothers Schlick attend and would have no problem providing links to my claims if anybody desires to see them.

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They are wrong, then. The bible clearly states homosexual acts are sinful... not so much the thoughts or friendships or even non-sexual relationships. Unless they are going the whole "thinking things is as bad as doing them" and in that case, we are all probably murderers and adulterers.

Homosexual is bad, mmmkay! Gambling is good!

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July 27, 2014, 10:29:34 PM
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Who is chasidy ott? why are your domains registered to this person?

Edit: I would also like to cross reference some of your "Reviews" on 717,

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Chasidy Ott
Age
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Date of Birth
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Phone Number
717-375-4765
Additional Phone Number
Most Recent Address
2988 Country Rd, Chambersburg, PA 17202-8834
Aliases/Name Variations
Chasidy M Ott, Chasidy M Gift, Chasidy Gift


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Previous Addresses (2)
Work Information (10)
Social Network Profiles
Possible Relatives (5)
Neighbors
Criminal Records (1)   <----- Should tell us about this as well since she has your websites.
Motor Accidents
Business Ownership
Property Ownership
Bankruptcies
Judgments + Liens
Licenses
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The phone number listed on the website is also listed as hers.

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Who is chasidy ott? why are your domains registered to this person?

Edit: I would also like to cross reference some of your "Reviews" on 717,

Edit:

Chasidy Ott
Age
N/A
Date of Birth
N/A
Phone Number
717-375-4765
Additional Phone Number
Most Recent Address
2988 Country Rd, Chambersburg, PA 17202-8834
Aliases/Name Variations
Chasidy M Ott, Chasidy M Gift, Chasidy Gift


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Contact Information
Previous Addresses (2)
Work Information (10)
Social Network Profiles
Possible Relatives (5)
Neighbors
Criminal Records (1)   <----- Should tell us about this as well since she has your websites.
Motor Accidents
Business Ownership
Property Ownership
Bankruptcies
Judgments + Liens
Licenses
Web Search


The phone number listed on the website is also listed as hers.

I have no clue who that is. I'd imagine that some of my old sites were bought by someone else after I sold them or let them expire. Once you release a site you don't have rights to say who has them down the road.
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July 27, 2014, 11:52:42 PM
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Really?

http://whois.domaintools.com/bitcoin4houses.com


Email    is associated with ~5,158,145 domains
 is associated with ~1,881,692 domains
 is associated with ~4 domains
Reverse Whois   
Registrant Org   Chasidy Ott is associated with ~2 other domains    
Registrar   1 & 1 INTERNET AG

So you sold bitcoin4houses.com as well? but they were publishing your IPO info? And they are also running 717cash.com as a real estate investment catch page with houses located in centerville ohio?

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Really?

http://whois.domaintools.com/bitcoin4houses.com


Email    is associated with ~5,158,145 domains
 is associated with ~1,881,692 domains
 is associated with ~4 domains
Reverse Whois   
Registrant Org   Chasidy Ott is associated with ~2 other domains    
Registrar   1 & 1 INTERNET AG

So you sold bitcoin4houses.com as well? but they were publishing your IPO info? And they are also running 717cash.com as a real estate investment catch page with houses located in centerville ohio?

You just don't understand how SEO works.

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