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June 24, 2011, 06:33:13 AM
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what is the physical address? for business travel i will be in tokyo 3 days from now, and i want to stop by their office to sort something out.

anyone know?

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June 24, 2011, 06:36:22 AM
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what is the physical address? for business travel i will be in tokyo 3 days from now, and i want to stop by their office to sort something out.

anyone know?

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owner-organization: Tibanne Co. Ltd.
owner-name: Mark Karpelès
owner-street: Cerulean Tower 15F
owner-city: Shibuya
owner-state: Tokyo
owner-zip: 168-0082
owner-country: JP
owner-phone: +81.345501529
owner-fax:
owner-email:

admin-organization: Tibanne Co. Ltd.
admin-name: Mark Karpelès
admin-street: Cerulean Tower 15F
admin-city: Shibuya
admin-state: Tokyo
admin-zip: 168-0082
admin-country: JP
admin-phone: +81.345501529
admin-fax:
admin-email:

tech-organization: Tibanne Co. Ltd.
tech-name: Mark Karpelès
tech-street: Cerulean Tower 15F
tech-city: Shibuya
tech-state: Tokyo
tech-zip: 168-0082
tech-country: JP
tech-phone: +81.345501529
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billing-organization: Tibanne Co. Ltd.
billing-name: Mark Karpelès
billing-street: Cerulean Tower 15F
billing-city: Shibuya
billing-state: Tokyo
billing-zip: 168-0082
billing-country: JP
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June 24, 2011, 06:38:54 AM
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Tibanne Co., Ltd,
〒168-0082
Tōkyō-to, Suginami-ku, Kugayama 5-24-30

Telephone: +81 3-4550-1529
E-mail: contact@tibanne.com

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June 24, 2011, 06:56:04 AM
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Can you deliver him a package for me? and promise not to open it by accident.  Roll Eyes

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June 24, 2011, 07:04:45 AM
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Can you deliver him a package for me? and promise not to open it by accident.  Roll Eyes

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No No, nothing ticks, just don't open the lid it's attached to a wire switch.

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June 24, 2011, 10:27:09 AM
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what is the physical address? for business travel i will be in tokyo 3 days from now, and i want to stop by their office to sort something out.
anyone know?

1) You guys need to learn using whois, or google, or clicking on About page...

2)  Heh. Are you packing heat? Wink  Roll Eyes
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June 24, 2011, 10:48:49 AM
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what is the physical address? for business travel i will be in tokyo 3 days from now, and i want to stop by their office to sort something out.
anyone know?

1) You guys need to learn using whois, or google, or clicking on About page...

2)  Heh. Are you packing heat? Wink  Roll Eyes

I would be quite worries about that happening if I was running mt.gox. Basically you have an office with $15M in cash lying around (considering mt.gox controls 500k BTC). Anyone can walk in and force mt.gox to transfer all those BTC's to his wallet and there is absolutely nothing he can do to either get those funds back or try to find out the identity of that thief.
A normal bank doesnt have $15M in cash in their vaults and they are much better secured then 2 nerds in a communal office building.

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June 24, 2011, 11:00:48 AM
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I would be quite worries about that happening if I was running mt.gox. Basically you have an office with $15M in cash lying around (considering mt.gox controls 500k BTC). Anyone can walk in and force mt.gox to transfer all those BTC's to his wallet and there is absolutely nothing he can do to either get those funds back or try to find out the identity of that thief.
A normal bank doesnt have $15M in cash in their vaults and they are much better secured then 2 nerds in a communal office building.

I doubt that a normally prudent person would have the wallet file/s for all of those btc in their office all in one place.

Then again... MtGox... Just look under the doormat  Tongue

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June 24, 2011, 11:22:45 AM
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I would be quite worries about that happening if I was running mt.gox. Basically you have an office with $15M in cash lying around (considering mt.gox controls 500k BTC). Anyone can walk in and force mt.gox to transfer all those BTC's to his wallet and there is absolutely nothing he can do to either get those funds back or try to find out the identity of that thief.
A normal bank doesnt have $15M in cash in their vaults and they are much better secured then 2 nerds in a communal office building.

In all fairness to MtGox, most banks have little more than old/retired people serving as 'armed security', and often don't even have that. 

Granted, they do have vaults.  But how is that different from storing wallet files on encrypted/removable drives?  One takes a combination to open.  The other takes a password.  A criminal could conceivably 'force' a banker to open a safe, just as much as force MtGox to decrypt the wallet file.


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June 24, 2011, 11:33:38 AM
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I would be quite worries about that happening if I was running mt.gox. Basically you have an office with $15M in cash lying around (considering mt.gox controls 500k BTC). Anyone can walk in and force mt.gox to transfer all those BTC's to his wallet and there is absolutely nothing he can do to either get those funds back or try to find out the identity of that thief.
A normal bank doesnt have $15M in cash in their vaults and they are much better secured then 2 nerds in a communal office building.

In all fairness to MtGox, most banks have little more than old/retired people serving as 'armed security', and often don't even have that. 

Granted, they do have vaults.  But how is that different from storing wallet files on encrypted/removable drives?  One takes a combination to open.  The other takes a password.  A criminal could conceivably 'force' a banker to open a safe, just as much as force MtGox to decrypt the wallet file.



Vaults have time delay locks and it is very common for people banks to not have access to any cash. I cant even get cash anymore at my local branche, I have to use an ATM.

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June 24, 2011, 11:37:03 AM
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just let him get the website back up so I can get my money/BTC out before you visit him. I would hate to see anything happen to the person that has my money before I was able to get it back.
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June 24, 2011, 11:40:39 AM
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I would be quite worries about that happening if I was running mt.gox. Basically you have an office with $15M in cash lying around (considering mt.gox controls 500k BTC). Anyone can walk in and force mt.gox to transfer all those BTC's to his wallet and there is absolutely nothing he can do to either get those funds back or try to find out the identity of that thief.
A normal bank doesnt have $15M in cash in their vaults and they are much better secured then 2 nerds in a communal office building.

I doubt that a normally prudent person would have the wallet file/s for all of those btc in their office all in one place.

Then again... MtGox... Just look under the doormat  Tongue

apparently they do.
he was asked on IRC to transfer 400kBTC to proove he still has control over it. he did, an hour later.

you think he went to his bank locker to impress some IRC guys?
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June 24, 2011, 11:54:46 AM
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apparently they do.
he was asked on IRC to transfer 400kBTC to proove he still has control over it. he did, an hour later.

you think he went to his bank locker to impress some IRC guys?
I'm no cheerleader for Mt. Gox, but I think it's hilarious that no matter what they do, they can't win.

According to you, he was totally responsive to the request that he prove that he still controls all the Bitcoins, doing a visible transfer within an hour.  And now you act as if that's a bad thing!
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June 24, 2011, 11:55:32 AM
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I would be quite worries about that happening if I was running mt.gox. Basically you have an office with $15M in cash lying around (considering mt.gox controls 500k BTC). Anyone can walk in and force mt.gox to transfer all those BTC's to his wallet and there is absolutely nothing he can do to either get those funds back or try to find out the identity of that thief.
A normal bank doesnt have $15M in cash in their vaults and they are much better secured then 2 nerds in a communal office building.

I doubt that a normally prudent person would have the wallet file/s for all of those btc in their office all in one place.

Then again... MtGox... Just look under the doormat  Tongue

apparently they do.
he was asked on IRC to transfer 400kBTC to proove he still has control over it. he did, an hour later.

you think he went to his bank locker to impress some IRC guys?
Yes, it wasn't to impress people. It was to prove he could still ocntrol the funds.
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June 24, 2011, 11:57:03 AM
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what is the physical address? for business travel i will be in tokyo 3 days from now, and i want to stop by their office to sort something out.

anyone know?

They'll definately be glad to have a cup of coffee with you.

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June 24, 2011, 12:01:28 PM
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alright, I take back "impress". the point was: apparently they have the private keys on-site.

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June 24, 2011, 12:47:10 PM
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June 24, 2011, 01:00:33 PM
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alright, I take back "impress". the point was: apparently they have the private keys on-site.



When he made that transfer he had to go through hoops to access the encrypted files, it wasnt located simply on his desktop.


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June 24, 2011, 01:12:04 PM
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The office is a virtual office, he's not actually there

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