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Question: Should we start using mBTC as the standard denomination?
Yes. - 255 (51.6%)
In a few months if the price grows or remains stable. - 33 (6.7%)
After the price is somewhat higher, $250+ - 30 (6.1%)
After the price is at $1000, dollar parity for the mBTC - 105 (21.3%)
No. Maybe much later - 18 (3.6%)
No. Never. - 23 (4.7%)
I'm not sure. - 16 (3.2%)
NEW: Switch to XBT - 14 (2.8%)
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May 31, 2013, 12:00:53 AM
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I even started using it Cheesy

It feels good to see some extra numbers in coins  Grin
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May 31, 2013, 12:01:25 AM
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As I said in another thread, the word "coin" here is the problem. People see coins as small, semi-worthless denominations of a larger unit,

Ever heard of gold coins, cretin?

I guess they need rebrand them too...

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May 31, 2013, 12:02:49 AM
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A Satoshi is the smallest division.  It seems logical to continue the tradition and name the decimal shifts after developers.  Gavin is appropriate.

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May 31, 2013, 12:04:09 AM
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I actually think this idea doesn't go far enough. We should switch to microbitcoins (0.000001 BTC = 1 uBTC = 100 Satoshi) as the basic unit (equivalent of the dollar, pound or euro) as soon as possible.

21 million basic units isn't psychologically enough for a global currency. 21 billion is better. But 21 trillion is even better as we start talking about the GDPs/deficits/QE programs of very sizeable countries in terms of 'trillions' of currency units.

Which naturally begs the question, why not go the whole hog and make the satoshi the basic unit? Well, we're all accustomed to having our basic currency unit divisible into 100 cents or pence. So this way we think of a satoshi as equivalent to a cent, a microbitcoin as equivalent to a 'bitdollar'. And a whole bitcoin is a million 'bitdollars'. Anyone who has a whole bitcoin is a millionaire.

That might seem a little ludicrous NOW, It'll mean a 'bitdollar' is currently only worth 0.01 'real'  ( Roll Eyes) cents, and you need maybe 100,000 bitdollars to buy a decent pizza. But it will help to highlight even more how bitcoins are a store of value, and your bitdollars are only going to get more valuable with time. And if you currently have a whole bitcoin, you SHOULD think of yourself as a millionaire IMO. You may not be right now, but give it maybe 20 years.

Anyway I currently have around 200 million bitdollars worth of assets - some actual bitdollars, some as ASICminer stock. I'm going to be a millionaire soon. And so are most of you.

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May 31, 2013, 12:09:52 AM
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I actually think this idea doesn't go far enough. We should switch to microbitcoins (0.000001 BTC = 1 uBTC = 100 Satoshi) as the basic unit (equivalent of the dollar, pound or euro) as soon as possible.

21 million basic units isn't psychologically enough for a global currency. 21 billion is better. But 21 trillion is even better as we start talking about the GDPs/deficits/QE programs of very sizeable countries in terms of 'trillions' of currency units.

Which naturally begs the question, why not go the whole hog and make the satoshi the basic unit? Well, we're all accustomed to having our basic currency unit divisible into 100 cents or pence. So this way we think of a satoshi as equivalent to a cent, a microbitcoin as equivalent to a 'bitdollar'. And a whole bitcoin is a million 'bitdollars'. Anyone who has a whole bitcoin is a millionaire.

That might seem a little ludicrous NOW, It'll mean a 'bitdollar' is currently only worth 0.01 'real'  ( Roll Eyes) cents, and you need maybe 100,000 bitdollars to buy a decent pizza. But it will help to highlight even more how bitcoins are a store of value, and your bitdollars are only going to get more valuable with time. And if you currently have a whole bitcoin, you SHOULD think of yourself as a millionaire IMO. You may not be right now, but give it maybe 20 years.

Anyway I currently have around 200 million bitdollars worth of assets - some actual bitdollars, some as ASICminer stock. I'm going to be a millionaire soon. And so are most of you.

Just rename them credits!
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May 31, 2013, 01:01:50 AM
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I actually think this idea doesn't go far enough. We should switch to microbitcoins (0.000001 BTC = 1 uBTC = 100 Satoshi) as the basic unit (equivalent of the dollar, pound or euro) as soon as possible.

21 million basic units isn't psychologically enough for a global currency. 21 billion is better. But 21 trillion is even better as we start talking about the GDPs/deficits/QE programs of very sizeable countries in terms of 'trillions' of currency units.

Which naturally begs the question, why not go the whole hog and make the satoshi the basic unit? Well, we're all accustomed to having our basic currency unit divisible into 100 cents or pence. So this way we think of a satoshi as equivalent to a cent, a microbitcoin as equivalent to a 'bitdollar'. And a whole bitcoin is a million 'bitdollars'. Anyone who has a whole bitcoin is a millionaire.

That might seem a little ludicrous NOW, It'll mean a 'bitdollar' is currently only worth 0.01 'real'  ( Roll Eyes) cents, and you need maybe 100,000 bitdollars to buy a decent pizza. But it will help to highlight even more how bitcoins are a store of value, and your bitdollars are only going to get more valuable with time. And if you currently have a whole bitcoin, you SHOULD think of yourself as a millionaire IMO. You may not be right now, but give it maybe 20 years.

Anyway I currently have around 200 million bitdollars worth of assets - some actual bitdollars, some as ASICminer stock. I'm going to be a millionaire soon. And so are most of you.

+1

But we don't need a cheasy name like bitdollar...
100 satoshis = 1 Bitcoin , 1 satoshi = well still 1 satoshi but also a bitcoin cent to help non geeks to adapt easier...

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May 31, 2013, 01:59:55 AM
Last edit: May 31, 2013, 02:31:23 AM by 101111
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Agree with OP though maybe Jun 2 is too soon.

It's irrational but true: people are happy to buy ripple or other alts because they're so cheap, but not buy bitcoin because it is too expensive.
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May 31, 2013, 02:30:26 AM
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I created this thread a couple days ago: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=216175.0 . So obviously I am in favor of this change.
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May 31, 2013, 02:35:20 AM
Last edit: May 31, 2013, 02:46:32 AM by chsados
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However, what you prefer to call it in casual conversation is another discussion. There you have my vote for "millibit", short for "millibitcoin".

naming and pronunciation is one thing but I also think there should be some type of sliding representation of price in marketplaces.  say an item in dollars is 5.99 there should be some type of standard sliding denomination that closely reflects this number.  

so $5.99 would be represented as 5.99XXXX
i hope that makes sense.
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May 31, 2013, 03:34:52 AM
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I prefer just BTC instead of mBTC.  But hopefully some day in the future we can just use Satoshi's.
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May 31, 2013, 05:01:45 AM
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why don't we just call them bits?

it rolls off the tongue, and also implies that they're not full bitcoins. who knows, maybe in time it'll all be bits and coins, with 1000 bits in a coin rather than 1000mBTC in 1BTC. sure seems a lot less clumsy.

just a thought.  Wink

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May 31, 2013, 05:36:23 AM
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My contribution.

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May 31, 2013, 06:44:34 AM
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1. Change the common name of a Satoshi to a bit.
2. Use the analogy of data storage to monetary storage.
3. 1 BTC = 100mb, or 1 bitcoin = 100 megabits.
4. Think of everything in bit.
5. Easy Smiley
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May 31, 2013, 08:00:45 AM
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We could pronounce an mBTC as "em bit".

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May 31, 2013, 09:03:26 AM
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We could pronounce an mBTC as "em bit".

Here's my two favourite so far:

Long name: Millibit.
Abbreviation: mbit
Pronounciation: embit (only singular)

Longname: Millibit
Abbreviation: ₥
Pronounciation: mill (only singular)

The mill already exists as a currency unit and is equivalent to 1/10th of a cent.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mill_%28currency%29

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May 31, 2013, 09:17:17 AM
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1 BTC is "One Bitcion".
1 mBTC is "One MilliBit".
That's not so hard, is it?

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May 31, 2013, 10:09:42 AM
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I think it's a wonderful idea.
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May 31, 2013, 12:14:11 PM
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1 mBTC is "One MilliBit".

As for the official term I think it should follow the standards: millibitcoin, mBTC etc.

That being said, I really like "em bit" or just "bit" as a term for everyday use. The US 1 cent coin is really just that, 1 cent, but everyone calls it a "penny,"  which is nowhere on the coin.

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May 31, 2013, 12:20:18 PM
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It will have a positive affect to bitcoin's adoption.
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May 31, 2013, 12:27:42 PM
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Please rather consider XBT for reasons elaborated here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=220761.msg2326526#msg2326526
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