Peter Vessenes: Take a step back and F*** YOUR OWN FACE!!!

[Severian]

I wonder if this is related:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=224057

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Possibly. Vessenes has the mindset of a narc.

[CompNsci]

Yea, the only sad part is that the last 30 years, in my opinion the US no longer has been a democracy, (1 person, 1 vote) not sure what to call it but nowadays its (1 dollar, 1 vote)

Is it called a "plutocracy" ?

[cypherdoc]

From http://www.cnbc.com/id/100774151:

But Peter Vessenes, chairman and executive director of the Bitcoin Foundation, was unfazed by the Liberty Reserve crackdown.

"The U.S. put out guidance recently through the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network, and we've been following up on that guidance and crushing bad actors," he said in an interview with CNBC Asia. "We're seeing a bit of a sweep right now," he said.

To Peter:
Really fu**face? Who exactly have you been "crushing"?
How exactly are you "regulating" bitcoin when I can still buy and sell them without using any ID? When I can still buy and sell whatever I want with them over Silk Road?

This topic is based on a typing error by CNBC.
If you watch the video and listen carefully, you can hear him say "... they've been following up on that guidance" - referring to FinCEN.

nice catch.

[pa]

From http://www.cnbc.com/id/100774151:

But Peter Vessenes, chairman and executive director of the Bitcoin Foundation, was unfazed by the Liberty Reserve crackdown.

"The U.S. put out guidance recently through the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network, and we've been following up on that guidance and crushing bad actors," he said in an interview with CNBC Asia. "We're seeing a bit of a sweep right now," he said.

To Peter:
Really fu**face? Who exactly have you been "crushing"?
How exactly are you "regulating" bitcoin when I can still buy and sell them without using any ID? When I can still buy and sell whatever I want with them over Silk Road?

This topic is based on a typing error by CNBC.
If you watch the video and listen carefully, you can hear him say "... they've been following up on that guidance" - referring to FinCEN.

D'oh!

Wowww...  Someone owes someone else an apology.

C'mon now... Group hug.

I listened to Peter in the video and it's definitely "they've" not "we've." Peter is just saying that FinCen has been going after those who are ignoring its interpretation of the law.

[Swapster]

This BitcoinFoundation thing is just BS - I hope nobody is donating to them.

That said,  I still want the use of Bitcoin to go mainstream. The less regulation the better. Let technology figure out how to regulate the markets - not heavy handed, agenda driven Federal thugs that rule in favor of the banksters.

[cryptoanarchist]

Let technology figure out how to regulate the markets - not heavy handed, agenda driven Federal thugs that rule in favor of the banksters.

I think this is inevitable. Government isn't going to be able to keep up with technological innovation at this point. For every Fastcash4bitcoin or Dwolla acct they shutdown/seize, multiple replicas will spring up.

[Thursday]

peter@coinlab.com

[daviducsb]

Would be nice to see the author of this thread apologize for slamming someone based on inaccurate research.

But somehow, I don't feel that some angry sounding bozo who bashes the "mainstream zionist media" is prone to make an apology.

These types of xenophobia and anger management issues probably belong on some extreme right wing hate site, not on a thread about a serious technological advance, attacking a serious person who has probably done way more than the thread's author to advance the adoption of bitcoin. Love or hate Peter Vessenes, I definitely think he's more capable and representative of bitcoin's potential than the author of this thread.

[ninjarobot]

Peter Vessenes appears to be the Limited Partner behind Bitcoinica.

Tihan has worked hard to keep the identity of the LP secret (There is a shell company in Barbados called the Wendon group) most likely to avoid any liability leaving Bitcoinica customers who had funds there royally screwed. One year later not a single customer has seen their coins returned. And we are talking many tens of thousands of BTC and USD here.

I will avoid anything that has his name attached to it like the plague. And yes, that includes the Bitcoin Foundation.

Reference: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=196150

[melvster]

Peter Vessenes appears to be the Limited Partner behind Bitcoinica.

Tihan has worked hard to keep the identity of the LP secret (There is a shell company in Barbados called the Wendon group) most likely to avoid any liability leaving Bitcoinica customers who had funds there royally screwed. One year later not a single customer has seen their coins returned. And we are talking many tens of thousands of BTC and USD here.

I will avoid anything that has his name attached to it like the plague. And yes, that includes the Bitcoin Foundation.

Reference: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=196150

Good catch.

[QuestionAuthority]

Peter Vessenes appears to be the Limited Partner behind Bitcoinica.

Tihan has worked hard to keep the identity of the LP secret (There is a shell company in Barbados called the Wendon group) most likely to avoid any liability leaving Bitcoinica customers who had funds there royally screwed. One year later not a single customer has seen their coins returned. And we are talking many tens of thousands of BTC and USD here.

I will avoid anything that has his name attached to it like the plague. And yes, that includes the Bitcoin Foundation.

Reference: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=196150

Well, well now, so the Mayor of Bitcoinland is a master thief. Sounds about right. Carry on. All is normal. Nothing to see here.

[cryptoanarchist]

Peter Vessenes appears to be the Limited Partner behind Bitcoinica.

Tihan has worked hard to keep the identity of the LP secret (There is a shell company in Barbados called the Wendon group) most likely to avoid any liability leaving Bitcoinica customers who had funds there royally screwed. One year later not a single customer has seen their coins returned. And we are talking many tens of thousands of BTC and USD here.

I will avoid anything that has his name attached to it like the plague. And yes, that includes the Bitcoin Foundation.

Reference: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=196150

Wow, can't say I'm surprised though. What a world class asshole. Where can I find this guy? I'd like to have a "talk" with him.

[Raoul Duke]

Peter Vessenes appears to be the Limited Partner behind Bitcoinica.

Tihan has worked hard to keep the identity of the LP secret (There is a shell company in Barbados called the Wendon group) most likely to avoid any liability leaving Bitcoinica customers who had funds there royally screwed. One year later not a single customer has seen their coins returned. And we are talking many tens of thousands of BTC and USD here.

I will avoid anything that has his name attached to it like the plague. And yes, that includes the Bitcoin Foundation.

Reference: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=196150

Wow, can't say I'm surprised though. What a world class asshole. Where can I find this guy? I'd like to have a "talk" with him.

He was the guy building coin mixing services, now he wants regulations... LOL, I guess.

[evoorhees]

Some people need to read between the lines.

Peter absolutely should be saying things like he's saying. Think about it long and hard and you'll figure it out. Don't be so dense.

If the public perception of bitcoin is that it's a bunch of rogues, it'll come under attack sooner than otherwise. If the public perception is that there are some rogues, but in general it's full of compliance-seekers, especially in the all-important Bitcoin Foundation, then the attack will be delayed or prevented.

The phrase walk softly and carry a big stick is important to keep in mind. The public face of Bitcoin should be gentle, accomodating, and non-extreme. It should be business-focused, and not political. The effect of Bitcoin, however, should be known by Bitcoiners anyway and doesn't need to be discussed in polite company

[Raoul Duke]

Some people need to read between the lines.

Peter absolutely should be saying things like he's saying. Think about it long and hard and you'll figure it out. Don't be so dense.

If the public perception of bitcoin is that it's a bunch of rogues, it'll come under attack sooner than otherwise. If the public perception is that there are some rogues, but in general it's full of compliance-seekers, especially in the all-important Bitcoin Foundation, then the attack will be delayed or prevented.

The phrase walk softly and carry a big stick is important to keep in mind. The public face of Bitcoin should be gentle, accomodating, and non-extreme. It should be business-focused, and not political. The effect of Bitcoin, however, should be known by Bitcoiners anyway and doesn't need to be discussed in polite company

hypocrite much?

[greyhawk]

Some people need to read between the lines.

Peter absolutely should be saying things like he's saying. Think about it long and hard and you'll figure it out. Don't be so dense.

If the public perception of bitcoin is that it's a bunch of rogues, it'll come under attack sooner than otherwise. If the public perception is that there are some rogues, but in general it's full of compliance-seekers, especially in the all-important Bitcoin Foundation, then the attack will be delayed or prevented.

The phrase walk softly and carry a big stick is important to keep in mind. The public face of Bitcoin should be gentle, accomodating, and non-extreme. It should be business-focused, and not political. The effect of Bitcoin, however, should be known by Bitcoiners anyway and doesn't need to be discussed in polite company

Nice taqiyya. Are you shi'a?

[QuestionAuthority]

Some people need to read between the lines.

Peter absolutely should be saying things like he's saying. Think about it long and hard and you'll figure it out. Don't be so dense.

If the public perception of bitcoin is that it's a bunch of rogues, it'll come under attack sooner than otherwise. If the public perception is that there are some rogues, but in general it's full of compliance-seekers, especially in the all-important Bitcoin Foundation, then the attack will be delayed or prevented.

The phrase walk softly and carry a big stick is important to keep in mind. The public face of Bitcoin should be gentle, accomodating, and non-extreme. It should be business-focused, and not political. The effect of Bitcoin, however, should be known by Bitcoiners anyway and doesn't need to be discussed in polite company

Nice taqiyya. Are you shi'a?

I didn't know evoorhees was Muslem. He looks like Wonder Bread to me.

[greyhawk]

Some people need to read between the lines.

Peter absolutely should be saying things like he's saying. Think about it long and hard and you'll figure it out. Don't be so dense.

If the public perception of bitcoin is that it's a bunch of rogues, it'll come under attack sooner than otherwise. If the public perception is that there are some rogues, but in general it's full of compliance-seekers, especially in the all-important Bitcoin Foundation, then the attack will be delayed or prevented.

The phrase walk softly and carry a big stick is important to keep in mind. The public face of Bitcoin should be gentle, accomodating, and non-extreme. It should be business-focused, and not political. The effect of Bitcoin, however, should be known by Bitcoiners anyway and doesn't need to be discussed in polite company

Nice taqiyya. Are you shi'a?

I didn't know evoorhees was Muslem. He looks like Wonder Bread to me.

I have no idea. I just like shitting on voorhees.

[cryptoanarchist]

Some people need to read between the lines.

Peter absolutely should be saying things like he's saying. Think about it long and hard and you'll figure it out. Don't be so dense.

If the public perception of bitcoin is that it's a bunch of rogues, it'll come under attack sooner than otherwise. If the public perception is that there are some rogues, but in general it's full of compliance-seekers, especially in the all-important Bitcoin Foundation, then the attack will be delayed or prevented.

The phrase walk softly and carry a big stick is important to keep in mind. The public face of Bitcoin should be gentle, accomodating, and non-extreme. It should be business-focused, and not political. The effect of Bitcoin, however, should be known by Bitcoiners anyway and doesn't need to be discussed in polite company

Wrong, and I've heard this before. And it was wrong then just as it is now. "it'll come under attack sooner than otherwise" - Erik - it already IS under attack. Don't be so dense.

I have a better option for Peter - don't create his own little organization and claim to be the ruler, and then he doesn't have to say anything.

Most of what you say makes you sound like one of the good guys, Erik, but the company you keep has always indicated otherwise. Statements like this only confirm my suspicions.

[CtrlAltBernanke420]

Some people need to read between the lines.

Peter absolutely should be saying things like he's saying. Think about it long and hard and you'll figure it out. Don't be so dense.

If the public perception of bitcoin is that it's a bunch of rogues, it'll come under attack sooner than otherwise. If the public perception is that there are some rogues, but in general it's full of compliance-seekers, especially in the all-important Bitcoin Foundation, then the attack will be delayed or prevented.

The phrase walk softly and carry a big stick is important to keep in mind. The public face of Bitcoin should be gentle, accomodating, and non-extreme. It should be business-focused, and not political. The effect of Bitcoin, however, should be known by Bitcoiners anyway and doesn't need to be discussed in polite company

Wrong, and I've heard this before. And it was wrong then just as it is now. "it'll come under attack sooner than otherwise" - Erik - it already IS under attack. Don't be so dense.

I have a better option for Peter - don't create his own little organization and claim to be the ruler, and then he doesn't have to say anything.

Most of what you say makes you sound like one of the good guys, Erik, but the company you keep has always indicated otherwise. Statements like this only confirm my suspicions.

How about we cut out the govt/banks from bitcoin ourself. We do not need to 'work with anyone.' Fuck them, this is bitcoin. Its value is derived entirely free of money.