[ANN] [IoP] Internet of People - Decentralise the Web 2.0 - a Community Project

[Memnon]

I told you before to stick your Discord to where the sun doesn't shine.

Well feel free to call me, visit me, email me, telegram me, discord me, viber me, hangout me, whatsapp me, signal me, fb messenger me or anything else or post here.
I don't hide from anything and will do my best to listen and answer. But for today, since you keep insisting on being rude I am going to spend my time helping others. Enjoy your day.

[callback]

Yes please, save me from more of your dribble.
You really better stick to your Discord, nobodies around there anyway.
Or go play on your Telegram Kindergarden.

[Zandorek]

IoP on Investing.com
https://www.investing.com/studios/article-279

[Zandorek]

Internet of People (IoP) — a digital cooperative community which aims to allow users to build “a new generation of DApps” with full control of personal information, eliminating censorship and obstruction by governments and large companies.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/p2p-network-to-stop-private-data-breaches-and-censorship-via-new-protocol-dapp-platform

Thank you for spreading the news.

[EumaT]

you opened the door and the developers stepped out into the light, marked by the exertions, but with a smile on their faces.that sounds great and sad at same time.

[callback]

And congrats for hitting a new all time low again!
You're real champions, everything is great. Impeccable performance.
Your efforts are appreciated all over the place, you're on top of the news.
Maybe you should all just go ahead and do an incentive for everybody at another one of these great trade shows.
Or better, just call for another congress, for free of course, thats a very convenient way to feel great while blowing up other peoples money.
Or book some more of these great and effective ads at investing.com, I bet they are a steal.
Or whatever, hookers and blow, its all running so great, I got total trust you'll find the best possible way to burn a couple more k's for all these great efforts.

[rendravolt]

Internet of People (IoP) — a digital cooperative community which aims to allow users to build “a new generation of DApps” with full control of personal information, eliminating censorship and obstruction by governments and large companies.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/p2p-network-to-stop-private-data-breaches-and-censorship-via-new-protocol-dapp-platform

Thank you for spreading the news.

A good review of the leading media and also the world's senior media crypto cointelegraph, I picked up a lot of things on the article and loaded a very good stuff and I also want to follow where IOP steps go next.

[callback]

Internet of People (IoP) — a digital cooperative community which aims to allow users to build “a new generation of DApps” with full control of personal information, eliminating censorship and obstruction by governments and large companies.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/p2p-network-to-stop-private-data-breaches-and-censorship-via-new-protocol-dapp-platform

Thank you for spreading the news.

A good review of the leading media and also the world's senior media crypto cointelegraph, I picked up a lot of things on the article and loaded a very good stuff and I also want to follow where IOP steps go next.

Next step for IoP is to hit below 8k sats on Bittrex, should be easy to achieve with such a great team.

[Zandorek]

Internet of People (IoP) — a digital cooperative community which aims to allow users to build “a new generation of DApps” with full control of personal information, eliminating censorship and obstruction by governments and large companies.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/p2p-network-to-stop-private-data-breaches-and-censorship-via-new-protocol-dapp-platform

Thank you for spreading the news.

A good review of the leading media and also the world's senior media crypto cointelegraph, I picked up a lot of things on the article and loaded a very good stuff and I also want to follow where IOP steps go next.

Next step for IoP is to hit below 8k sats on Bittrex, should be easy to achieve with such a great team.

Please, do us a favor and go around the BCT threads to other projects and tell them the same thing regarding their coin in this Market situation;

They will be happy.

[callback]

Yes sure, the market situation.
How could I miss that, you're absolutely right.
You couldn't have anything to do with it, its the bad and ugly market situation.

[Zandorek]

IOP will introduce a new consensus algorithm based on the idea of a directed acyclic graph, or DAG.
The DAG concept has been popularized by projects such as IOTA and HEDERA. It’s similar to blockchain, but instead of competing against each other to produce the next block on a single chain, nodes gossip with each other about network events to produce a web of messages, all linked through cryptographic hashes. With the release of the new consensus algorithm, IoP will have completed its basic infrastructure. We will then open up transaction confirmation and coin generation to the public, creating a true P2P economy.


You can watch the video here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggO6A4lGp2o

[callback]

When will you introduce this new consensus algorithm?

[ciacio84]

Next step for IoP is to hit below 8k sats on Bittrex, should be easy to achieve with such a great team.

You're right IOP is one of the coins that lost more '.... I bought IOP in September and doing a little' trading I managed not to lose my capital .. Even I did not expect a collapse so 'big IOP. The IOP project, however, seems excellent to me, incredibly underestimated ... whoever buys IOP will now earn a lot of money ...... I am sure that within two years the IOP price will be very big

[callback]

Next step for IoP is to hit below 8k sats on Bittrex, should be easy to achieve with such a great team.

You're right IOP is one of the coins that lost more '.... I bought IOP in September and doing a little' trading I managed not to lose my capital .. Even I did not expect a collapse so 'big IOP. The IOP project, however, seems excellent to me, incredibly underestimated ... whoever buys IOP will now earn a lot of money ...... I am sure that within two years the IOP price will be very big

What makes you so sure about that? Two years is an eternal time for a crypto project. If they were where they wanted to be now I would agree, but they missed on each and every item on their roadmap. The concept is great, but the realisation lags and the people deciding and doing public relations are a bunch of idiots. They pissed off everybody, with their childish delusional attitude.

And well, they hit the below 8k sats on Bittrex target already in no time, thats what they're best at currently, crushing the market value, pretending its not their fault and they can't do anything about it.

The dumping by the chapters will go on, because they need the funds to operate. Unless somebody big comes up as a saviour, but I don't see that, because they aren't any kind of a proper business entity to do deals with. As long as this idiocy goes on, there won't be a rebound.

[XeLaZoP]

Next step for IoP is to hit below 8k sats on Bittrex, should be easy to achieve with such a great team.

You're right IOP is one of the coins that lost more '.... I bought IOP in September and doing a little' trading I managed not to lose my capital .. Even I did not expect a collapse so 'big IOP. The IOP project, however, seems excellent to me, incredibly underestimated ... whoever buys IOP will now earn a lot of money ...... I am sure that within two years the IOP price will be very big

What makes you so sure about that? Two years is an eternal time for a crypto project. If they were where they wanted to be now I would agree, but they missed on each and every item on their roadmap. The concept is great, but the realisation lags and the people deciding and doing public relations are a bunch of idiots. They pissed off everybody, with their childish delusional attitude.

And well, they hit the below 8k sats on Bittrex target already in no time, thats what they're best at currently, crushing the market value, pretending its not their fault and they can't do anything about it.

The dumping by the chapters will go on, because they need the funds to operate. Unless somebody big comes up as a saviour, but I don't see that, because they aren't any kind of a proper business entity to do deals with. As long as this idiocy goes on, there won't be a rebound.

Unfortunately, I have to agree. I think there is a big problem of inconsistency.

Although it is announced as a crypto of the community, the community the only power it has is to vote for the most competitive chapters, nothing more. The consensus is decided from above, I'm not sure who, I guess by IoP Ventures, how the rest of the decisions are made and the community does not have information about who makes those decisions, nor with what criteria.

Being in Discordia does not improve transparency in the information ... recently it was possible to see how one of the chapter leaders was asked to remove the video of "What is IoP?" and when he asked for the reasons, that part of the video was no longer correct, no one in Discord knew how to respond.

As long as the community does not face this serious problem of inconsistency, I find it difficult to increase confidence in this project, especially if we consider the existence of a whale determined to sink the price further. We must remember that trust is one of the basic characteristics of any crypto project.

At least this is my opinion, probably influenced by the frustration of thinking about what could have been and seeing what is being ... (Expectation vs. Reality) and not just talking about the price, since I understand that it is possible that the technological sector is approaching a correction or crash, there are indications to be able to think about this.

[Memnon]

Being in Discordia does not improve transparency in the information ... recently it was possible to see how one of the chapter leaders was asked to remove the video of "What is IoP?" and when he asked for the reasons, that part of the video was no longer correct, no one in Discord knew how to respond.

Good spot! Looking back that discussion in discord fell kind of flat now that I look at it. So to explain:

IoP divisions had produced that "What is IOP" video and the Ukrainian chapter was translating it. However we later found that some things were either technically incorrect or could give the false impression. So for instance it was suggested that you can "retract your data" you can not take back your data, you can only deny the permission to continue to use the data.  But data sent once are obvioulsy sent data, technically there is no possibility to undo this again.
Furthermore, the video promoted an internet world without middlemen, but this is also not entirely true there will be some (sort of) middlemen sometimes. For instance dApp developer who, for example, develops a decentralized UBER, must also earn money. he does not do that out of charity. But with the Mercury protocol we address this core principal on who controls the permissions. Fundamentally changing it from what we know of traditional services and apps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdUggytSg3c

To some it might seem like a small thing, but this principal lies at the core of many of the issues we're facing with current internet usages.
So we made that new video, which explains more correctly, what we do. And obviously we don't want to waste the time of our community members so it was suggested to remove the old one and work on the new one instead. The fact that this process isn't happening in backrooms and is just a normal interaction between community members speaks to our benefit in terms of transparency. Not saying that we're optimal currently, but we're trying to be as open an as transparent as possible.

I hope this helps, and should you have any further questions, feel free to reach out, if you're in our discord. You know I'm pretty much online most of the time anyway. Simply ask and I'll do my best to answer.
I am however also human, I am flawed and I can't spot everything everywhere, but feel free to help out where you can or  at least keep me on my toes This is the point of a community, to help each other. At least that's how I look at it.

[XeLaZoP]

Being in Discordia does not improve transparency in the information ... recently it was possible to see how one of the chapter leaders was asked to remove the video of "What is IoP?" and when he asked for the reasons, that part of the video was no longer correct, no one in Discord knew how to respond.

Good spot! Looking back that discussion in discord fell kind of flat now that I look at it. So to explain:

IoP divisions had produced that "What is IOP" video and the Ukrainian chapter was translating it. However we later found that some things were either technically incorrect or could give the false impression. So for instance it was suggested that you can "retract your data" you can not take back your data, you can only deny the permission to continue to use the data.  But data sent once are obvioulsy sent data, technically there is no possibility to undo this again.
Furthermore, the video promoted an internet world without middlemen, but this is also not entirely true there will be some (sort of) middlemen sometimes. For instance dApp developer who, for example, develops a decentralized UBER, must also earn money. he does not do that out of charity. But with the Mercury protocol we address this core principal on who controls the permissions. Fundamentally changing it from what we know of traditional services and apps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdUggytSg3c

To some it might seem like a small thing, but this principal lies at the core of many of the issues we're facing with current internet usages.
So we made that new video, which explains more correctly, what we do. And obviously we don't want to waste the time of our community members so it was suggested to remove the old one and work on the new one instead. The fact that this process isn't happening in backrooms and is just a normal interaction between community members speaks to our benefit in terms of transparency. Not saying that we're optimal currently, but we're trying to be as open an as transparent as possible.

I hope this helps, and should you have any further questions, feel free to reach out, if you're in our discord. You know I'm pretty much online most of the time anyway. Simply ask and I'll do my best to answer.
I am however also human, I am flawed and I can't spot everything everywhere, but feel free to help out where you can or  at least keep me on my toes This is the point of a community, to help each other. At least that's how I look at it.

Thank you for your quick response, first of all I would like to clarify that I am not questioning the passion of the members of this community, especially the most active ones like you, nor the cooperation of them. I am aware of how they help each other to try to get the community to come forward and the effort that is made so that the new members feel integrated.

In any case I make a criticism, I hope it is seen as a constructive criticism, about the current internal politics, especially in the internal communication of the same, between those who make important decisions and / or the developers and the members of the community (cooperators and investors).

An example is the transparency reports, which look like monthly press releases of a company and where information is exclusively informed about the project's novelties and the upcoming efforts or objectives, but it is not reported who makes these decisions, based on what criteria , who are the employees of IoP Venture (positions, salaries, etc.) that is the one that is officially releasing the technology, who is taking the decisions about the possible lines of action, how this action is being coordinated, who decided the new consensus of the chapters ...

I think that all this is important to be able to say that this is a community project, at least it is my opinion about what transparency means. I hope they do not take me for a hater, on the contrary, I still have hope and I am still excited about the technology that IoP and its partner Libertaria are developing.

At least these changes I would consider necessary to increase confidence in the project and even open a chapter to contribute to it, much more necessary than increasing the internal competition of the chapters or increase profits, since I see more important human development what is being done with the development of decentralized technology and the creation of decentralized alternative economies, luck with the project.

[Memnon]

Thank you for your quick response, first of all I would like to clarify that I am not questioning the passion of the members of this community, especially the most active ones like you, nor the cooperation of them. I am aware of how they help each other to try to get the community to come forward and the effort that is made so that the new members feel integrated.

No problem at all and thanks for he compliment.

In any case I make a criticism, I hope it is seen as a constructive criticism, about the current internal politics, especially in the internal communication of the same, between those who make important decisions and / or the developers and the members of the community (cooperators and investors).

Nothing wrong with constructive criticism I think we all applaud that.

An example is the transparency reports, which look like monthly press releases of a company and where information is exclusively informed about the project's novelties and the upcoming efforts or objectives, but it is not reported who makes these decisions, based on what criteria , who are the employees of IoP Venture (positions, salaries, etc.) that is the one that is officially releasing the technology, who is taking the decisions about the possible lines of action, how this action is being coordinated, who decided the new consensus of the chapters ...

There are definitely steps that we as a community still need to make. But we're already moving forward from where we were. Just to remind you that this is a cooperative community that spinned of from the Fermat times. This community has had no ICO and is basically self-funded. The community was in turmoil and had to 'retreat' to 'regroup' as I understand it. So when I got in last year I also found this somewhat closed fortress where you were either "in this core community" or not. This was not so because these people wanted it that way, but it evolved like this from the point where they left from fermat and the turmoil that came with it.

There were no public chapter reports, there was no divisions/core report, it was well intended but not transparent.
And the little information and discussion that there was happening mostly in closed groups.
Slowly we're getting more streamlined and at the same time more open.
This is why now everyone can make a chapter, everyone can come in and vote (which is by the way a process we wish to move to to blockchain asap, so see the discord voting as in-between phase)

So we're not quite there yet, and I think its also important to keep some room for good on topic discussions in smaller groups. Not every discussion has to take place with thousands of people.
But the road to more transparency and clarity is still not finished and will take your feedback onboard with that as well.

I think that all this is important to be able to say that this is a community project, at least it is my opinion about what transparency means. I hope they do not take me for a hater, on the contrary, I still have hope and I am still excited about the technology that IoP and its partner Libertaria are developing.

No problem at all. I personally like it and I am sure that others feel that way as well. There is no problem is discussing with each-other and improving from that.
And yeah that happens also here out in the public. I think there are not so many (crypto) communities where you can get so close and so easily involved personally actually.
But yeah that also means that sometimes it gets a bit messy and it's perhaps not as streamlined as a 'corporate style'  crypto group. That's usually far and far less transparent then we are already here now.

At least these changes I would consider necessary to increase confidence in the project and even open a chapter to contribute to it, much more necessary than increasing the internal competition of the chapters or increase profits, since I see more important human development what is being done with the development of decentralized technology and the creation of decentralized alternative economies, luck with the project.

Much appreciated, I hope you'll keep on participating. We need this energy and input from everyone to become the best that we can be.

[XeLaZoP]

Good news, it seems that finally the discord debate has opened on the debate of the politics and form of internal management. Come on IoP, the community is waking up!

[callback]

Good news, it seems that finally the discord debate has opened on the debate of the politics and form of internal management. Come on IoP, the community is waking up!

Take it here, into the great wide open, please.
Discord is anything but public, its a nice censoring and crowd manipulation machine, thats why you're so keen on luring everybody in.
But you can't score many users because its obviously all kept at bullshit levels.
All you do is delegating opinion, muting and censoring critical voices, or hiding information from the general public.
It makes it easy for you to group up behind the back of your audience and keep your bullshit narrative going.