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Rather than a giant paragraph, lets look at the facts/rumours/likely case: - 30000000 fucking threads QQing about them every day
- bitcointalk forum members probably make a decent chunk of the orders by $, due to singles, minirigs not exactly being impulse buys + the fact they spend SO much money advertising here
- Their 1000 donation to 'charity' was scummy as hell
- BFL can't be in a good financial position. Even if they had taken on 7 figure injections of cash, they've burnt SO much and have still made $0 from actual ASIC product that they're in a risky position
- You are free to refund whenever you want
- Likely vulnerable to private litigations for the false promises and failure to deliver
The solution? A mass refund exodus. Everyone requests a refund at the same time. As many orders cancelled at once as possible. What if you're the last one in and they can't refund you, they get their assets frozen or seized? Better refund. The momentum is too much, the cash flow is too much, the investors bricking themselves too much. Forced to pull the plug, the rest of the orders get refunded. Edit: Added disclaimer, I have investments in ASICMiner and Avalon, however it doesn't change my outlook towards them. If I had been around at the time, I'd also have 10 preorders and going mental like you all.
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So you create another BFL thread essentially crying about other threads. Less talking and more action? Please show us by stfu. Thanks ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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June 06, 2013, 01:56:04 AM |
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tldr: Either force a refund tsunami or stfu Edit: Added disclaimer, I have investments in ASICMiner and Avalon, however it doesn't change my outlook towards BFL. If I had been around at the time, I'd also have 10 preorders and going mental like you all.
So, you don't have a BFL preorder, so no dog in the BFL hunt. But your telling people who do have BFL preorders what to do? Why don't you mind your own business? Since BFL ASIC's aren't your business.
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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?
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June 06, 2013, 01:56:23 AM |
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Rather than a giant paragraph, lets look at the facts/rumours/likely case: - 30000000 fucking threads QQing about BFL every day
- bitcointalk forum members probably make a decent chunk of the orders by $, due to singles, minirigs not exactly being impulse buys + the fact BFL spends SO much money advertising here
- Their 1000 donation to 'charity' was scummy as hell
- BFL can't be in a good financial position. Even if they had taken on 7 figure injections of cash, they've burnt SO much and have still made $0 from actual ASIC product that they're in a risky position
- You are free to refund whenever you want
- BFL are extremely vulnerable to private litigations for the false promises and failure to deliver
- BFL would undoubtedly get bukaki'ed by government agencies if an investigation was to occur. Assets frozen etc
- BFL would get spit roasted if the FCC found they were selling these uncertified products, even if it is just $7000 worth in 9 months LOL
The solution? A mass refund exodus. Everyone requests a refund at the same time. As many orders cancelled at once as possible. What if you're the last one in and they can't refund you, they get their assets frozen or seized? Better refund. The momentum is too much, the cash flow is too much, the investors bricking themselves too much. BFL is forced to pull the plug, the rest of the orders get refunded. BFL ceases to exist, the real boys (Avalon, ASICMiner + DIYs) can use your money. The power is in your hands, no one elses. tldr: Either force a refund tsunami or stfuEdit: Added disclaimer, I have investments in ASICMiner and Avalon, however it doesn't change my outlook towards BFL. If I had been around at the time, I'd also have 10 preorders and going mental like you all. And the award for most retarded post goes to.... Doggie!! "BFL sucks for not delivering, let's try and fuck them over so hard they can never deliver"
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June 06, 2013, 02:05:15 AM |
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So you create another BFL thread essentially crying about other threads. Less talking and more action? Please show us by stfu. Thanks ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) 1 thread to stop 10 threads being made a day? Its called an investment.... tldr: Either force a refund tsunami or stfu Edit: Added disclaimer, I have investments in ASICMiner and Avalon, however it doesn't change my outlook towards BFL. If I had been around at the time, I'd also have 10 preorders and going mental like you all.
So, you don't have a BFL preorder, so no dog in the BFL hunt. But your telling people who do have BFL preorders what to do? Why don't you mind your own business? Since BFL ASIC's aren't your business. Brb, let me go waste $250 on a Jap so you won't QQ
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June 06, 2013, 02:06:47 AM |
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And the award for most retarded post goes to....
Doggie!!
"BFL sucks for not delivering, let's try and fuck them over so hard they can never deliver"
Yes that is the whole fucking point. Wipe them off the face of the earth but in such a way that everyone who is currently 'in' with BFL can get 'out' in one wave, rather than everyone attempting to/running away from being the last one 'in'. I think this is a bit too complicated for your brain if you can't even copy and paste "dogie" correctly.
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June 06, 2013, 02:07:59 AM |
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Brb, let me go waste $250 on a Jap so you won't QQ
If only I had a clue what you were saying. I only read English, not gibberish.
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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?
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June 06, 2013, 02:12:40 AM |
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And the award for most retarded post goes to....
Doggie!!
"BFL sucks for not delivering, let's try and fuck them over so hard they can never deliver"
Yes that is the whole fucking point. Wipe them off the face of the earth but in such a way that everyone who is currently 'in' with BFL can get 'out' in one wave, rather than everyone attempting to/running away from being the last one 'in'. I think this is a bit too complicated for your brain if you can't even copy and paste "dogie" correctly. Well if you had a preoder you could cancel it. But you don't so mind your own business. It's one thing to express your opinion but to tell others to take an action just because you want them to is just narcissistic and childish. So mind your own business. Or maybe tell us an original thought on the subject.
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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?
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June 06, 2013, 02:19:22 AM |
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This thread reminds me that Dimebag Darrell is dead ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) OP is on the verge of becoming like the dude that shot Dimebag -- world class idiot.
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June 06, 2013, 02:19:52 AM |
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And the award for most retarded post goes to....
Doggie!!
"BFL sucks for not delivering, let's try and fuck them over so hard they can never deliver"
Yes that is the whole fucking point. Wipe them off the face of the earth but in such a way that everyone who is currently 'in' with BFL can get 'out' in one wave, rather than everyone attempting to/running away from being the last one 'in'. I think this is a bit too complicated for your brain if you can't even copy and paste "dogie" correctly. Well if you had a preoder you could cancel it. But you don't so mind your own business. It's one thing to express your opinion but to tell others to take an action just because you want them to is just narcissistic and childish. So mind your own business. Or maybe tell us an original thought on the subject. I can tell you whatever I want, you can choose to listen or not. #freewilly
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June 06, 2013, 08:43:20 AM |
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To be honest you've already shown how one man could potentially take them down:
BFL would undoubtedly get bukaki'ed by government agencies if an investigation was to occur. Assets frozen etc BFL would get spit roasted if the FCC found they were selling these uncertified products, even if it is just $7000 worth in 9 months LOL
Why dont you just report them to said agencies, watch the run on the bank as it comes out that everyone's money thats tied up has been frozen and under investigation, there would be charge backs on cards done on mass.
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June 06, 2013, 10:27:42 AM |
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What the fuck is qq
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June 06, 2013, 10:35:57 AM |
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What the fuck is qq
"Cry Cry" the Q's are meant to look like eyes tearing. A more accurate description would be "T_T".. but.. what do I know?
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June 06, 2013, 10:58:17 AM |
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Rather than a giant paragraph, lets look at the facts/rumours/likely case: - 30000000 fucking threads QQing about BFL every day
- bitcointalk forum members probably make a decent chunk of the orders by $, due to singles, minirigs not exactly being impulse buys + the fact BFL spends SO much money advertising here
- Their 1000 donation to 'charity' was scummy as hell
- BFL can't be in a good financial position. Even if they had taken on 7 figure injections of cash, they've burnt SO much and have still made $0 from actual ASIC product that they're in a risky position
- You are free to refund whenever you want
- BFL are extremely vulnerable to private litigations for the false promises and failure to deliver
- BFL would undoubtedly get bukaki'ed by government agencies if an investigation was to occur. Assets frozen etc
- BFL would get spit roasted if the FCC found they were selling these uncertified products, even if it is just $7000 worth in 9 months LOL
The solution? A mass refund exodus. Everyone requests a refund at the same time. As many orders cancelled at once as possible. What if you're the last one in and they can't refund you, they get their assets frozen or seized? Better refund. The momentum is too much, the cash flow is too much, the investors bricking themselves too much. BFL is forced to pull the plug, the rest of the orders get refunded. BFL ceases to exist, the real boys (Avalon, ASICMiner + DIYs) can use your money. The power is in your hands, no one elses. tldr: Either force a refund tsunami or stfuEdit: Added disclaimer, I have investments in ASICMiner and Avalon, however it doesn't change my outlook towards BFL. If I had been around at the time, I'd also have 10 preorders and going mental like you all. I love the idea. I cancelled my order months ago. But since I can not request another refund, I'll send them a postcard of my anus to really stir the pot (and it's a mess down there)
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June 06, 2013, 10:58:29 AM |
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To be honest you've already shown how one man could potentially take them down:
BFL would undoubtedly get bukaki'ed by government agencies if an investigation was to occur. Assets frozen etc BFL would get spit roasted if the FCC found they were selling these uncertified products, even if it is just $7000 worth in 9 months LOL
Why dont you just report them to said agencies, watch the run on the bank as it comes out that everyone's money thats tied up has been frozen and under investigation, there would be charge backs on cards done on mass.
Because I'm not a US citizen. I did actually look at the FCC reporting a few months ago just for luls and I think you have to call a US number?
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June 06, 2013, 11:16:47 AM |
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To be honest you've already shown how one man could potentially take them down:
BFL would undoubtedly get bukaki'ed by government agencies if an investigation was to occur. Assets frozen etc BFL would get spit roasted if the FCC found they were selling these uncertified products, even if it is just $7000 worth in 9 months LOL
Why dont you just report them to said agencies, watch the run on the bank as it comes out that everyone's money thats tied up has been frozen and under investigation, there would be charge backs on cards done on mass.
Because I'm not a US citizen. I did actually look at the FCC reporting a few months ago just for luls and I think you have to call a US number? No you don't, although if you wanted to exert more pressure a phone call and hand written letter sent by registered post would prob raise more eyebrows. Almost certainly it requires efforts of those on this forum... http://www.fcc.gov/complaintsAlso this would be helpful for you to read: http://www.bureauveritas.com/wps/wcm/connect/bv_com/Group/Home/About-Us/Our-Business/Our-Business-Consumer-Products/Resources/Frequently+Asked+Questions/FCCI think you would need to knock heads and create some congruency as to where you agree the fault lies and what you are complaining about exactly...
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