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July 14, 2013, 11:52:17 PM
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How did we finally end up calculating the difficulty change when we hit the 4 hour forced update? Is it since the last difficulty change, or is it over the last 30 blocks?

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July 15, 2013, 09:20:27 AM
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How did we finally end up calculating the difficulty change when we hit the 4 hour forced update? Is it since the last difficulty change, or is it over the last 30 blocks?

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Last 30 blocks...

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July 15, 2013, 04:44:59 PM
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Allright ! Less than 1K blocks before new difficulty rules !

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July 17, 2013, 06:00:36 AM
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Allright ! Less than 1K blocks before new difficulty rules !

And it's there ! Everything seems to be going fine, I'll keep monitoring... But the block explorer apparently did not update his client :s Neither did CoinChoose...

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July 17, 2013, 06:30:27 AM
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There's no daemon file in the current Windows binaries package, only the Qt executable. I tried downloading from noirbits.org and from the Mega link. Here's the file list:

libgcc_s_dw2-1.dll
libstdc++-6.dll
mingwm10.dll
Noirbits-qt.exe
qrc_bitcoin.cpp
QtCore4.dll
QtGui4.dll
QtNetwork4.dll



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July 17, 2013, 06:48:39 AM
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Erf... can't compile 'till I'm off work. If anyone can do it...

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July 17, 2013, 08:33:59 AM
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i'll be home soon. however, dont trust coinchoose for now
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July 17, 2013, 12:20:48 PM
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i'll be home soon. however, dont trust coinchoose for now

Manually updated but will delist shortly as well (until block explorer is fixed).  Who owns http://nrb.webboise.com/chain/Noirbits/ ?
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July 17, 2013, 12:36:34 PM
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i'll be home soon. however, dont trust coinchoose for now

Manually updated but will delist shortly as well (until block explorer is fixed).  Who owns http://nrb.webboise.com/chain/Noirbits/ ?

If I knew... no reference on the website...

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July 17, 2013, 12:36:41 PM
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i'll be home soon. however, dont trust coinchoose for now

Manually updated but will delist shortly as well (until block explorer is fixed).  Who owns http://nrb.webboise.com/chain/Noirbits/ ?

diatonic made it, i sent him a pm
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July 17, 2013, 12:42:37 PM
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""You were asking about banking legislation in South Africa the other day. You do not need to get anything from us. You can download it yourself. Just ask for "the banking act of South Africa" and you will get a pdf version of the act. There are amendments being mooted and when they are in place I will advise you so that you also take these into account.

On an aside, can you highlight which other countries you may wish to operate in? We would like to see if our Banking laws do not conflict. ""


That is a direct quote from An employee with the S.A Central Bank. I am hoping this bodes well for Noirbank.
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July 17, 2013, 12:59:53 PM
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""You were asking about banking legislation in South Africa the other day. You do not need to get anything from us. You can download it yourself. Just ask for "the banking act of South Africa" and you will get a pdf version of the act. There are amendments being mooted and when they are in place I will advise you so that you also take these into account.

On an aside, can you highlight which other countries you may wish to operate in? We would like to see if our Banking laws do not conflict. ""


That is a direct quote from An employee with the S.A Central Bank. I am hoping this bodes well for Noirbank.


Hmm.  I'm trying to picture Johannesburg as the cryptocoin capital of the world... 
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July 17, 2013, 01:04:31 PM
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""You were asking about banking legislation in South Africa the other day. You do not need to get anything from us. You can download it yourself. Just ask for "the banking act of South Africa" and you will get a pdf version of the act. There are amendments being mooted and when they are in place I will advise you so that you also take these into account.

On an aside, can you highlight which other countries you may wish to operate in? We would like to see if our Banking laws do not conflict. ""


That is a direct quote from An employee with the S.A Central Bank. I am hoping this bodes well for Noirbank.


Hmm.  I'm trying to picture Johannesburg as the cryptocoin capital of the world... 

My applications have been to multiple countries of various regions but the quickest responses have been from African nations, that makes three now vs zero from the rest of the world. In the end it may benefit me to use these countries, their laws are less strict and allow more flexibility with regards to registration of foreign owned enterprises.
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July 17, 2013, 02:58:32 PM
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I have a question about the Noirbank. How will its ownership be set up?
Will the community be able to purchase shares of it?
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July 17, 2013, 03:02:53 PM
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I have a question about the Noirbank. How will its ownership be set up?
Will the community be able to pirchases shares of it?

Good question, once i get my paper work in order i'm hoping to apply a form of community control, i will however have a large slice of the ownership, probably 51~55% for legal reasons. If i find a way to make it completely community managed that would be cool, but most nations need someone to point at when things go awry so i'll probably have to be actually liable.

The issue that was raised was the reserve fund issue, most countries require a certain amount of money to be available as reserve to protect a banks clients, this has raised an issue that we are currently considering.
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July 17, 2013, 03:13:12 PM
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Allright ! Less than 1K blocks before new difficulty rules !

And it's there ! Everything seems to be going fine, I'll keep monitoring... But the block explorer apparently did not update his client :s Neither did CoinChoose...
Looking great.. See that the block explorer has been updated. I assume coinchoose will be close behind. Seems to be running great. Thanks for the hard work making this happen for the community.

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July 17, 2013, 04:08:31 PM
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Allright ! Less than 1K blocks before new difficulty rules !

And it's there ! Everything seems to be going fine, I'll keep monitoring... But the block explorer apparently did not update his client :s Neither did CoinChoose...
Looking great.. See that the block explorer has been updated. I assume coinchoose will be close behind. Seems to be running great. Thanks for the hard work making this happen for the community.

Oatmo

No problem... it''s actually fun developping for cryptos... But it's been a heck of a day, juggling between my real job and the issues we've seen on Cryptsy, the block explorer, and my fucked up merge on Github that dropped some code... Glad it's over Smiley

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July 17, 2013, 04:13:46 PM
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There's no daemon file in the current Windows binaries package, only the Qt executable. I tried downloading from noirbits.org and from the Mega link. Here's the file list:

libgcc_s_dw2-1.dll
libstdc++-6.dll
mingwm10.dll
Noirbits-qt.exe
qrc_bitcoin.cpp
QtCore4.dll
QtGui4.dll
QtNetwork4.dll

Compiling with latest version as of now, package will soon be available on mega.

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July 18, 2013, 03:31:17 AM
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Everything looks good since the algo update. One possible future update suggestion is that just like we have the 4 hour forced retarget for too slow, it's probably a good idea to have one for too fast as well... Something like if you get 15 blocks (30 minutes worth) in less than 7.5 minutes (running 4x too fast) then you force a retarget as well. This would more effectively handle cases where a ton of hash power gets added quickly without generating a ton of orphans.

Just a thought.

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July 18, 2013, 09:03:09 AM
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Everything looks good since the algo update. One possible future update suggestion is that just like we have the 4 hour forced retarget for too slow, it's probably a good idea to have one for too fast as well... Something like if you get 15 blocks (30 minutes worth) in less than 7.5 minutes (running 4x too fast) then you force a retarget as well. This would more effectively handle cases where a ton of hash power gets added quickly without generating a ton of orphans.

Just a thought.

Oatmo

Indeed, with the added benefit of dettering coin hoppers. However, we need to be careful with this, as we've seen yesterday that despite us annoucing the upgrade long before the new rules, and contacting service providers, not everyone did upgrade. We can still implement the feature, but given it's not as critical, I think it needs a big delay before kicking in, at least 30K blocks, if not more. Since the retargets work properly now, we can safely assume an approximate 2 minute block time... giving about a month's delay before the new rules.

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