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March 01, 2014, 12:43:41 AM
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Hi Bitfinex,

i have got an idea, assign an EXTRA unique ID to every users and it changes every time (u can decide x hr - xhr well maybe 24 hours according to server time perhaps?)

lets say for example my bitfinex login name is bitfinex and for that time when i login i will see an ID beside my login name for eg BFX01001 today and BFX010892 for tomorrow


TODAY!!!
BFX01001 datestamp:xxxx Total   520,173.71 USD   65.33 BTC   1.00 LTC <<<<<so after ctrl+f  I AM HERE so u can provide a page that shows every one total balance and btc or usd and that person can hide their privacy too
BFX01002 datestamp:xxxx Total   120,173.71 USD   5.55 BTC   17.00 LTC <<<<<< this is another guy below WHICH I DONT KNOW
BFX01003 datestamp:xxxx Total   220,173.71 USD   6.33 BTC   10.00 LTC <<<<<< this is another guy below WHICH I DONT KNOW
BFX01004 datestamp:xxxx Total   320,173.71 USD   7.33 BTC   1.60 LTC <<<<<< this is another guy below WHICH I DONT KNOW

TOMORROW
BFX01001 datestamp:xxxx Total   1520,173.71 USD   225.33 BTC   1.00 LTC <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< THIS IS ANOTHER GUY WHICH I DONT KNOW.
BFX01002 datestamp:xxxx Total   120,173.71 USD   5.55 BTC   17.00 LTC <<<<<< this is another guy below WHICH I DONT KNOW
BFX01003 datestamp:xxxx Total   220,173.71 USD   6.33 BTC   10.00 LTC <<<<<< this is another guy below WHICH I DONT KNOW
BFX01004 datestamp:xxxx Total   320,173.71 USD   7.33 BTC   1.60 LTC <<<<<< this is another guy below WHICH I DONT KNOW
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BFX010892 datestamp:xxxx Total   520,173.71 USD   65.33 BTC   1.00 LTC <<<<<< I AM HERE FOR TOMORROW!!!

top of page u can put the no of usd and total BTC & LTC  (for example usd 100mil BTC 300 LTC 300)

we can then take (100m - the price of BTC of that time * 300)  - (the price of LTC of that time * 300) = to produce the FIAT stored in bitfinex.




about the hot wallet balance or cold wallet balance u guys can choose not to reveal because by checking BFX01001 at that time everyone will know their real balance and the website is updating in REAL TIME and data is true.. those that after checking their ID given and price dont match they can screenshot it.. and show us... so i suppose an unique ID and a time stamp VS the website for public to see also in time stamp


then screen shot can be made by masking our login user id.. the rest can show if digits are wrong when comparing =) PRIVACY is not compromised!!


the pros about this idea is.. (if u implement if..at the start we will probably check it almost everyday cuz we are same like BFX paranoia)
1. we as users can check ourself to know that data is in real time and not fake..(those that check fake can post screenshot here, so bfx costomers base will inc or decrease base on how real or fake u guys can get)
2. Bitfinex can show the public how strong they are in REAL time without compromising users privacy =)
3. bitfinex hot and cold wallet are not compromised because u can choose not to show to prevent any malicious atks or activity (but show once a week or month will be good to keep u guys in check) if u guys not showing i suggest hiring few of the experts external audits from world recognized companies to give u guys a cert of authenticity per mth or something so that only the auditors know and not us.. =)(and of course id the auditors check and things are more vs the total amount we have u guys pass. but if they check and lesser then what we owned.. then u guys have failed i guess)


the cons is.. hackers will keep trying to  DDOS atks just to bring bitfinex.com down.(you guys are already using cloudflare with MANY COLD WALLETS to refill the hot wallet so what to worry?)


i believe my solution is able to work out and bring BFX more costomer thus increase in company revenue overtime..








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March 01, 2014, 03:30:16 AM
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There are two issues lately:

1. Since the end of last week, I got a lot of red "Invalid request" banner after placing a swap offer. Usually it'll work just fine if I just place the exact offer again. So the offer is valid in fact.


I see so many "Invalid request" these days. It almost accounts 50% of the time.

I have to repeatly submit the offer again and again. It is VERY annoying and I have no clue how to avoid it.

Please investigate.
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March 01, 2014, 06:17:21 AM
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Why can't PWC or Deloittes audit your books on a six monthly basis and then provide an audit sign off letter?
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March 01, 2014, 08:24:06 AM
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There are two issues lately:

1. Since the end of last week, I got a lot of red "Invalid request" banner after placing a swap offer. Usually it'll work just fine if I just place the exact offer again. So the offer is valid in fact.


I see so many "Invalid request" these days. It almost accounts 50% of the time.

I have to repeatly submit the offer again and again. It is VERY annoying and I have no clue how to avoid it.

Please investigate.

My liquidity swap offer was there last night and this morning it has disappeared. Do you have to keep checking and reentering the offer?

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March 01, 2014, 09:08:48 AM
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There are two issues lately:

1. Since the end of last week, I got a lot of red "Invalid request" banner after placing a swap offer. Usually it'll work just fine if I just place the exact offer again. So the offer is valid in fact.


I see so many "Invalid request" these days. It almost accounts 50% of the time.

I have to repeatly submit the offer again and again. It is VERY annoying and I have no clue how to avoid it.

Please investigate.

My liquidity swap offer was there last night and this morning it has disappeared. Do you have to keep checking and reentering the offer?

Maybe someone took the offer, and closed it some hours later?
You can activate auto-lend, so a closed offer is put up again.

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March 01, 2014, 12:33:17 PM
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I am considering verifying my account at bfx. Does anyone know how long that process usually takes?
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March 01, 2014, 02:51:53 PM
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I am considering verifying my account at bfx. Does anyone know how long that process usually takes?

Took me about 5 business days and that was last month.
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March 01, 2014, 04:05:19 PM
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has anyone else problems with logging in at bitfinex (who uses 2-FA) ?

I enter my password and then when I enter my OTP (Google Authentificator) I always get an error message
that my OTP is invalid.

Google Authentificator works fine on other websites, I just have this problem at bitfinex since today.

I also tried Google Chrome and Firefox, but in both browers I can´t manage to enter a valid
OTP password  Sad

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March 01, 2014, 04:25:35 PM
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has anyone else problems with logging in at bitfinex (who uses 2-FA) ?

I enter my password and then when I enter my OTP (Google Authentificator) I always get an error message
that my OTP is invalid.

Google Authentificator works fine on other websites, I just have this problem at bitfinex since today.

I also tried Google Chrome and Firefox, but in both browers I can´t manage to enter a valid
OTP password  Sad

Mine is working.  Usually this is because your time isn't sync'd with the network correctly.  I think there's an option in Google Auth to reset time or somesuch.
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March 01, 2014, 04:32:27 PM
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has anyone else problems with logging in at bitfinex (who uses 2-FA) ?

I enter my password and then when I enter my OTP (Google Authentificator) I always get an error message
that my OTP is invalid.

Google Authentificator works fine on other websites, I just have this problem at bitfinex since today.

I also tried Google Chrome and Firefox, but in both browers I can´t manage to enter a valid
OTP password  Sad

Mine is working.  Usually this is because your time isn't sync'd with the network correctly.  I think there's an option in Google Auth to reset time or somesuch.

after I used the setting in Google Auth you recommended, it works fine  Smiley
Thank you!


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Does anybody have a history of the liquidity swap rate?

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March 01, 2014, 05:35:40 PM
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Does anybody have a history of the liquidity swap rate?
http://charts-bfxdata.rhcloud.com/bitfinexLiquidityUSD.php

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March 01, 2014, 06:52:12 PM
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Anyone else not receiving loan payments?

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March 01, 2014, 07:10:30 PM
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You get interest only once a day around midnight or 1 am UTC.

https://www.coinlend.org <-- automated lending at various exchanges.
https://www.bitfinex.com <-- Trade BTC for other currencies and vice versa.
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March 02, 2014, 12:32:22 AM
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Am I going to receive payment for swaps that were closed intraday?

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March 02, 2014, 02:00:10 AM
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Quote from: KYC form
...copies of
the relevant identification documents. These must be certified by a solicitor (or notary, or court officer) and there may be a
small fee payable for this


I want to verify my account, as I have a lot (in %) of my money on BTX. But I'm not willing to pay 100+ € for a notary certification nor a trip to my capital for a stamp Sad
The closest I can get a an official 'proof of address'-document in dutch (in which my name is shown), issued by my town hall. Will that do?

Eitherway, I would feel more secure if BTX has some kind of ID information about me. So how can I do this?
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Idea: I currently have no 2F-auth enabled because of practical reasons. (stupid, I know)
It would be great to have an option so that only withdrawl requires 2F. Probably a stupid idea, but I think other people feel this way too:)

My BTC-address: 1JtgnB6UC5j9gMYzLftVaCmwdPL4PrWeYB
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March 02, 2014, 09:26:34 AM
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I want to verify my account, as I have a lot (in %) of my money on BTX.

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Idea: I currently have no 2F-auth enabled because of practical reasons. (stupid, I know)

If you already know that this is stupid, why do it? And why ask for this option which others (that might not even know that this is stupid!) might enable?

Also I personally would probably just withdraw the money as BTC instead of going through the hassle with apostilles etc. and exchange them to EUR, I don't see any advantage of sending them documents in advance just because I have money there... but do as you like!

https://www.coinlend.org <-- automated lending at various exchanges.
https://www.bitfinex.com <-- Trade BTC for other currencies and vice versa.
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March 02, 2014, 11:39:38 AM
Last edit: March 02, 2014, 12:22:07 PM by richmke
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we are evaluating different proposals and ideas, but at the end of the day if we implement a system it must make sense.
To prove we have access to a certain amount of coins doesn't mean anything.
How can each of you be sure about the total number of coins we say we have on behalf of our customers?
Every customer just knows how many coins he has, but can never be sure of what is the total we claim.
Is seems easier than what it really is.....

Any suggestion is as usual more than welcome


1) Prove you have access to X number of coins and USD. For USD, maybe a letter from the Bank.
2) Publish a list of who has how many coins. Lots of options on "who"
     a) List by Deposit Address (use BTC or LTC deposit address for USD).
     b) List by "Code" that is Bitfinex generated. User can request new "code", so their public name changes as often as they want.
     c) Whatever other way makes sense to you. Each account could have more than 1 code per deposit type, and the total amount is randomly spread between the codes with each posting.
3) Regular audit (at least quarterly) by a Well Respected accounting firm. Post Audit letter.
4) Segregate cold wallets with a 3rd party Trustee. Ideally, all customer deposits held with a 3rd party Trustee.
5) No person/entity with a relationship with Bitfinex (owner, employee, accounting firm, trustee, someone with access to exchange info, etc) could have a customer account with Bitfinex.

Doing #1 and #2 allows users to confirm their own balance, and the lack of anyone complaining is passive confirmation that the information is legitimate.

Doing #1 and #2 does mean that Bifinex could cook the books to the extent that it fakes information for dormant users (shows their balances lower than actual). That only works until one dormant user posts a complaint - Looses passive confirmation.

Adding #3 gives the most assurance that balances are legitimate. #3 could be done without #1 and #2. But, IMHO, would be stronger with #1 and #2. Also, #3 protects Bitfinex from what supposedly happened at MtGox. The maleability loss happened over time. Regular audits would have caught the problem early.

#4 would not be that expensive for "cold" wallets. Minimal transactions with the cold wallets would keep the fees low. This would make it harder for Bitfinex to use customer deposits for its own purposes, or disappear with all customer funds overnight.

#4 would also be great for handling deposits and withdrawals of USD. Transaction fees for deposits/withdrawals could fully cover the Trustee's per transaction cost. Performance standards could be published (How soon deposits are credited, and withdrawals processed). This should be with a bank that has a worldwide Corporate Trust reputation. Know Your Customer and other money laundering rules would apply for USD transactions. If Customer wanted full anonymity, they would have to limit themselves to BTC/LTC deposits and withdrawals. A Trustee would also be able to easily process non-USD transactions with a typical 1% currency conversion fee. Because of the fees, I would not use it for small amounts, but knowing that I could quickly move $100,000 USD for a nominal Trustee transaction expense would give me a lot of confidence to use Bitfinex. Maybe the ability to pay an extra fee for 1 business day processing.

#5 limits insider trading. One potential exception would be Designated Market Makers - As long as they have the same obligations, responsibilities, and limitations of Market Makers in the USA - For example, they have an obligation to buy when the market is declining, and an obligation to sell when the market is climbing. They put their capital at risk for the rights and benefits of being a Market Maker.

I do not see the privacy problem with #2. It is already a privacy problem with BTC. Everyone can check the balance of any wallet address. Why is this any different? A user can change their Bitfinex Wallet address at any time, and divide them between accounts, just like they can do with real BTC addresses.

In theory, the gain in trust by customers will result in increased transaction fees earned by Bitfinex. Those increased fees would more than offset the additional cost of Audits and Trustee fees. If Bitfinex were the first exchange to adopt the standard, that could be huge for you, and possibly make it the top exchange. Even though Bitstamp is "headquartered" in London, their use of a Slovenia banks makes me really wonder about them.
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March 02, 2014, 11:58:58 AM
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Yes Bitfinex is my favorite exchange, but after the Mt Gox debacle, I did withdraw about 1/4th of my funds from Bitfinex, just to cut down on the risk of the site disappearing like Gox has.   If there was some kind of quarterly audit and accounting done, to show it isn't a  fractional exchange and everything is as it should be, I would certainly deposit more funds back in.

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March 02, 2014, 12:18:11 PM
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It would be great to have an option so that only withdrawl requires 2F. Probably a stupid idea, but I think other people feel this way too:)

This is not stupid. Current implementation of 2F makes login process a pain in the ass. This option is anyway better than not having 2F enabled at all.
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