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February 03, 2018, 12:46:41 PM
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This thread seems dead. Why?

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February 03, 2018, 03:01:17 PM
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This thread seems dead. Why?

I could think of several reasons:
1. Bitfinex abandoned the thread years ago, which disincentivizes people from posting about their problems or from bringing up suggestions
2. In the last months the few discussions mainly took place between a few people, who were more or less concerned about the Tether situation (mayax, Samarkand)
and a few people, who thought/think that everything is fine and all Tether rumors are just FUD (TheQuin, Quickseller)
3. Bitfinex has a minimum deposit of 10k $ for new accounts, which is a huge barrier for many newbies, who were looking to invest an amount like 100 $
4. Many posters simply just left Bitcointalk, because the overall forum quality decreased
5. The old-timers in this thread rarely post anymore, because they are probably living on their own private island after enjoying all the P2P margin lending
returns since 2013



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February 03, 2018, 07:20:30 PM
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6.) I dont have any problems, so no reason for posting as long as everything is working right.

private island? lol
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February 04, 2018, 07:22:49 AM
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This thread seems dead. Why?

What would you expect? There's no forum reps here anymore. There was something endearing about Giancarlo and Rafael posting on the forums back in the day. Giancarlo was especially a douchebag. Smiley

Now this thread is mostly just speculation about Tether FUD.

 
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February 04, 2018, 07:50:32 AM
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1. Bitfinex abandoned the thread years ago, which disincentivizes people from posting about their problems or from bringing up suggestions

Not just Bitfinex. Back in 2013 all services used this forum as a support platform. Very few are still here and using it that way now. Then this was the only place available but now there are many alternatives and the forum format isn't particularly suited to the task.


5. The old-timers in this thread rarely post anymore, because they are probably living on their own private island after enjoying all the P2P margin lending
returns since 2013

Damn, what am I still doing here?


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February 04, 2018, 07:54:49 AM
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5. The old-timers in this thread rarely post anymore, because they are probably living on their own private island after enjoying all the P2P margin lending
returns since 2013

 Undecided

Where's my island?!

https://www.coinlend.org <-- automated lending at various exchanges.
https://www.bitfinex.com <-- Trade BTC for other currencies and vice versa.
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February 04, 2018, 09:28:38 AM
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1. Bitfinex abandoned the thread years ago, which disincentivizes people from posting about their problems or from bringing up suggestions

Not just Bitfinex. Back in 2013 all services used this forum as a support platform. Very few are still here and using it that way now. Then this was the only place available but now there are many alternatives and the forum format isn't particularly suited to the task.

...


Quoine has representatives that are pretty active in the official Quoine thread.
Kraken has representatives that are pretty active in the official Kraken thread.
Even an exchange like Cex.io has a forum rep that is active occasionally.

Giancarlo´s Bitcointalk is actually also still active from time to time:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=70409

Last Active:
January 21, 2018, 12:29:41 PM

I´d also dare to guess that he probably reads this thread here sometimes.
It would be amazing if he would start to post here again.


5. The old-timers in this thread rarely post anymore, because they are probably living on their own private island after enjoying all the P2P margin lending
returns since 2013

 Undecided

Where's my island?!

I was talking about P2P margin lending returns and not affiliate income  Grin
You will get there eventually!
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February 04, 2018, 09:47:23 AM
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@Samarkand as I said very few. I'm just pointing out the contrast with when I first came here when nearly all did. I put that down to the growth of the Bitcoin world. Services are restricted to one thread each, a lot of them are large enough now to justify having their own forum. It's not exactly practical to search through a thread that's 100's of pages long to find the answer to a question.

Edit. just a thought I wonder if it's possible for a mod to edit the title to read " [ABANDONED]Bitfinex.com first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading"

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February 04, 2018, 06:29:02 PM
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This thread seems dead. Why?

I could think of several reasons:
1. Bitfinex abandoned the thread years ago, which disincentivizes people from posting about their problems or from bringing up suggestions
Various bitfinex reps are fairly active on reddit, both on r/bitfinex and r/bitcoinmarkets



Giancarlo´s Bitcointalk is actually also still active from time to time:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=70409
[...]

I´d also dare to guess that he probably reads this thread here sometimes.
[...]


I would not be surprised if someone from bitfinex's support reviews this thread for issues.
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February 06, 2018, 01:15:04 AM
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I noticed that Bitfinex changed again their bank, now they use a Portuguese bank, has anyone tried to deposit fiat money since this change?

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February 06, 2018, 08:06:30 AM
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I noticed that Bitfinex changed again their bank, now they use a Portuguese bank, has anyone tried to deposit fiat money since this change?


GLOBAL TRADE SOLUTIONS A.G.
Address Bahnhofstrasse 21, 6300 Zug Switzerland
Account number PT50003502160007611117018
Bank Name  CAIXA


Bitfinex itself doesn't own any funds. They own many other companies in order to open new bank accounts.  Why? because they are fraudsters and their bank account are closed one by one.
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February 06, 2018, 08:08:48 AM
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I noticed that Bitfinex changed again their bank, now they use a Portuguese bank, has anyone tried to deposit fiat money since this change?


GLOBAL TRADE SOLUTIONS A.G.
Address Bahnhofstrasse 21, 6300 Zug Switzerland
Account number PT50003502160007611117018
Bank Name  CAIXA


Bitfinex itself doesn't own any funds. They own many other companies in order to open new bank accounts.  Why? because they are fraudsters and their bank account are closed one by one.

Again you jump straight to an incorrect conclusion. The fact that a company is using payment processors to receive funds != doesn't own any funds.


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February 06, 2018, 08:13:13 AM
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I noticed that Bitfinex changed again their bank, now they use a Portuguese bank, has anyone tried to deposit fiat money since this change?


GLOBAL TRADE SOLUTIONS A.G.
Address Bahnhofstrasse 21, 6300 Zug Switzerland
Account number PT50003502160007611117018
Bank Name  CAIXA


Bitfinex itself doesn't own any funds. They own many other companies in order to open new bank accounts.  Why? because they are fraudsters and their bank account are closed one by one.

Again you jump straight to an incorrect conclusion. The fact that a company is using payment processors to receive funds != doesn't own any funds.



it's Bitfinex not a payment processor.  stay cool !  Smiley
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February 06, 2018, 08:22:44 AM
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I noticed that Bitfinex changed again their bank, now they use a Portuguese bank, has anyone tried to deposit fiat money since this change?


GLOBAL TRADE SOLUTIONS A.G.
Address Bahnhofstrasse 21, 6300 Zug Switzerland
Account number PT50003502160007611117018
Bank Name  CAIXA


Bitfinex itself doesn't own any funds. They own many other companies in order to open new bank accounts.  Why? because they are fraudsters and their bank account are closed one by one.
Bitfinex holds funds on behalf of their customers. They do not own money held on behalf of their customers, however they do own money earned from commissions/fees/etc.
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February 06, 2018, 08:31:13 AM
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I noticed that Bitfinex changed again their bank, now they use a Portuguese bank, has anyone tried to deposit fiat money since this change?


GLOBAL TRADE SOLUTIONS A.G.
Address Bahnhofstrasse 21, 6300 Zug Switzerland
Account number PT50003502160007611117018
Bank Name  CAIXA


Bitfinex itself doesn't own any funds. They own many other companies in order to open new bank accounts.  Why? because they are fraudsters and their bank account are closed one by one.

Again you jump straight to an incorrect conclusion. The fact that a company is using payment processors to receive funds != doesn't own any funds.



it's Bitfinex not a payment processor.  stay cool !  Smiley

Global Trade Solutions Ag - "Adjustment and Collection Services" founded in 2001.

I'm cool, but as ever you are talking nonsense.

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Last edit: February 06, 2018, 02:26:55 PM by mayax
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I noticed that Bitfinex changed again their bank, now they use a Portuguese bank, has anyone tried to deposit fiat money since this change?


GLOBAL TRADE SOLUTIONS A.G.
Address Bahnhofstrasse 21, 6300 Zug Switzerland
Account number PT50003502160007611117018
Bank Name  CAIXA


Bitfinex itself doesn't own any funds. They own many other companies in order to open new bank accounts.  Why? because they are fraudsters and their bank account are closed one by one.

Again you jump straight to an incorrect conclusion. The fact that a company is using payment processors to receive funds != doesn't own any funds.



it's Bitfinex not a payment processor.  stay cool !  Smiley

Global Trade Solutions Ag - "Adjustment and Collection Services" founded in 2001.

I'm cool, but as ever you are talking nonsense.

They bought the company  last year (05.04.2017).  They changed the directors and so on. The same directors as they have in all their fraudulent companies.. Smiley

Molina Lee, Ivan Manuel
Krämer, Ivo Michael

 I know more than you think about how the things are working in this business, Mr Bitfinex shill aka  TheQuin
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February 06, 2018, 08:50:30 AM
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They bough the company  last year (05.04.2017).  They changed the directors and so on. The same directors as they have in all their fraudulent companies.. Smiley

Molina Lee, Ivan Manuel
Krämer, Ivo Michael

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Fair enough, seems like a very sensible acquisition. Must be the first time you got something right but it still doesn't mean anything other than Bitfinex is continuing to go from strength to strength as a leading crypto exchange.

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February 06, 2018, 10:46:08 AM
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but it still doesn't mean anything other than Bitfinex is continuing to go from strength to strength as a leading crypto exchange.


That might be a bit of a stretch in my opinion. E.g. if I want to make a fiat deposit to Bitstamp I have to
wire money to a Slovenian bank account. The bank information has been the same for more than 3 years and I even
have it saved in my online banking account, because of increased convenience.

On the other hand Bitfinex has switched their banking details 3 times in the last 2-3 months.
At first they were using a bank account of a payment processor in Poland, then they switched
to a Dutch account in the name of a shell company and now they apparently have a Portuguese bank
account in the name of another company. No legit exchange (from the big exchanges I only
consider Bitstamp, Gemini and Bitflyer to be legitimate) has to switch their bank accounts constantly.
Meanwhile Bitfinex had no banking at all for several months and now continues to switch from banking
in one jurisdiction to another. It is almost as if they are playing a cat-and-mouse game with
the banks and the regulatory entities.

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February 06, 2018, 11:08:47 AM
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No legit exchange (from the big exchanges I only
consider Bitstamp, Gemini and Bitflyer to be legitimate) has to switch their bank accounts constantly.

This really comes down to what you see as 'legit'. I'm not making any argument that various governments don't want to force KYC and AML on to the whole of the Bitcoin world and turn it into another arm of the banking system that they can control. This doesn't lead me to the conclusion that they are a scam it leads me to the conclusion the vested interests want rid of them.

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February 06, 2018, 11:24:02 AM
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No legit exchange (from the big exchanges I only
consider Bitstamp, Gemini and Bitflyer to be legitimate) has to switch their bank accounts constantly.

This really comes down to what you see as 'legit'. I'm not making any argument that various governments don't want to force KYC and AML on to the whole of the Bitcoin world and turn it into another arm of the banking system that they can control. This doesn't lead me to the conclusion that they are a scam it leads me to the conclusion the vested interests want rid of them.


I agree that this comes down to the definition of "legit".

However, I think we might already be at a point where Bitcoin is pretty similar to traditional asset classes.
We already have all kinds of derivatives (Swaps, Futures...), margin trading has been available for years and
even obscure altcoins can be shorted using Bitfinex or Bitmex. Bitcoin has long outgrown many of the ideals
that it was based on and this has also lead to many old-time Bitcoiners exiting the community out of frustration.
Especially stuff like ICOs is pretty far from the ideas that the people had in mind, who wanted cryptocurrencies
to become a better system than the current banking system.

What leads me to my negative impression of Bitfinex is not that certain governments want to get rid of
less compliant exchanges like BFX, but rather that they have a history of not delivering on promises and a recent
history of switching bank accouns from one jurisdiction to another on a monthly basis. Legit businesses usually
have long-standing relationships with their banks. Meanwhile criminal organisations have to play
cat-and-mouse games with regulatory entities and banks.

Besides, some of the involved people don´t have a particularly immaculate track record. E.g. I don´t know of
any shenanigans by the people, who run Bitstamp or Bitflyer while certain people from the management of BFX/Tether
have been involved in some pretty shady stuff (e.g. @urwhatuknow was selling pirated copies of Microsoft
software back in the 1990s).



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