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The US Government does not acknowledge the presence of bitcoins... They would probably help you if someone robbed you in person or hacked you...
The FBI, CIA, Federal Reserve and the Department of Treasury, Department of Homeland Security and Department of Justice all have extensive knowledge of bitcoin. The recent FinCEN guidance, and DOJ/DHS action against MT GOX and it US subsidiary Mutum Sigillum make this clear and possibly indicate additional regulation and legislation coming.
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June 10, 2013, 05:29:29 PM |
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Got scammed as well. I did ask him to sign a message though.... Okay. I think I sent my message about the same time that you sent that. I'll compose the PM right now. Address: 157fmvnAVX1vy9ik5X6WVja14cEofgKtSa User: TheOrri Great doing business with you. I certainly can.
------ I, Kruniac, am selling one ASICMiner share to TheOrri on 6-6-2013 for 2.2 BTC and am awaiting payment. ------
Signature: H/o0Bj8UXIM3Jo8iy6f2GWp3MRImGfus+dHxiYcc1LHcT5AhMShq6un/EPP42JmJcJZVSnLynfEHHE6n9L8dVZE=
Take your time - I won't be out for the morning for another hour or so.
As I said before, don't forget to provide an address for your dividend payments. I'll need that for the PM to Friedcat.
Kruniac confirmed paymentOkay. I think I sent my message about the same time that you sent that. I'll compose the PM right now. Address: 157fmvnAVX1vy9ik5X6WVja14cEofgKtSa User: TheOrri Great doing business with you. Transaction ideda3badb8b9df829dba986c9030037975d1e1108fde6c897cae73a329bef92c7
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Got scammed as well. I did ask him to sign a message though.... Okay. I think I sent my message about the same time that you sent that. I'll compose the PM right now. Address: 157fmvnAVX1vy9ik5X6WVja14cEofgKtSa User: TheOrri Great doing business with you. I certainly can.
------ I, Kruniac, am selling one ASICMiner share to TheOrri on 6-6-2013 for 2.2 BTC and am awaiting payment. ------
Signature: H/o0Bj8UXIM3Jo8iy6f2GWp3MRImGfus+dHxiYcc1LHcT5AhMShq6un/EPP42JmJcJZVSnLynfEHHE6n9L8dVZE=
Take your time - I won't be out for the morning for another hour or so.
As I said before, don't forget to provide an address for your dividend payments. I'll need that for the PM to Friedcat.
Kruniac confirmed paymentOkay. I think I sent my message about the same time that you sent that. I'll compose the PM right now. Address: 157fmvnAVX1vy9ik5X6WVja14cEofgKtSa User: TheOrri Great doing business with you. Transaction ideda3badb8b9df829dba986c9030037975d1e1108fde6c897cae73a329bef92c7 That message does NOT verify. Please sign a message from the address you send funds from
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June 10, 2013, 07:13:18 PM |
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Got scammed as well. I did ask him to sign a message though.... Okay. I think I sent my message about the same time that you sent that. I'll compose the PM right now. Address: 157fmvnAVX1vy9ik5X6WVja14cEofgKtSa User: TheOrri Great doing business with you. I certainly can.
------ I, Kruniac, am selling one ASICMiner share to TheOrri on 6-6-2013 for 2.2 BTC and am awaiting payment. ------
Signature: H/o0Bj8UXIM3Jo8iy6f2GWp3MRImGfus+dHxiYcc1LHcT5AhMShq6un/EPP42JmJcJZVSnLynfEHHE6n9L8dVZE=
Take your time - I won't be out for the morning for another hour or so.
As I said before, don't forget to provide an address for your dividend payments. I'll need that for the PM to Friedcat.
Kruniac confirmed paymentOkay. I think I sent my message about the same time that you sent that. I'll compose the PM right now. Address: 157fmvnAVX1vy9ik5X6WVja14cEofgKtSa User: TheOrri Great doing business with you. Transaction ideda3badb8b9df829dba986c9030037975d1e1108fde6c897cae73a329bef92c7 That message does NOT verify. Please sign a message from the address you send funds from Actually it does verify to 14cBNrTYW9XCnYhJqJ9ooAMzz7zAnojWaz which is the address of kruniac which I paid 2.2 to. Please, can you check again? Message: I, Kruniac, am selling one ASICMiner share to TheOrri on 6-6-2013 for 2.2 BTC and am awaiting payment. Signature: H/o0Bj8UXIM3Jo8iy6f2GWp3MRImGfus+dHxiYcc1LHcT5AhMShq6un/EPP42JmJcJZVSnLynfEHHE6n9L8dVZE=
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June 10, 2013, 07:29:33 PM |
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I am a victim as well. same here, oh well
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June 10, 2013, 07:33:33 PM |
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Got scammed as well. I did ask him to sign a message though.... Okay. I think I sent my message about the same time that you sent that. I'll compose the PM right now. Address: 157fmvnAVX1vy9ik5X6WVja14cEofgKtSa User: TheOrri Great doing business with you. I certainly can.
------ I, Kruniac, am selling one ASICMiner share to TheOrri on 6-6-2013 for 2.2 BTC and am awaiting payment. ------
Signature: H/o0Bj8UXIM3Jo8iy6f2GWp3MRImGfus+dHxiYcc1LHcT5AhMShq6un/EPP42JmJcJZVSnLynfEHHE6n9L8dVZE=
Take your time - I won't be out for the morning for another hour or so.
As I said before, don't forget to provide an address for your dividend payments. I'll need that for the PM to Friedcat.
Kruniac confirmed paymentOkay. I think I sent my message about the same time that you sent that. I'll compose the PM right now. Address: 157fmvnAVX1vy9ik5X6WVja14cEofgKtSa User: TheOrri Great doing business with you. Transaction ideda3badb8b9df829dba986c9030037975d1e1108fde6c897cae73a329bef92c7 That message does NOT verify. Please sign a message from the address you send funds from Actually it does verify to 14cBNrTYW9XCnYhJqJ9ooAMzz7zAnojWaz which is the address of kruniac which I paid 2.2 to. Please, can you check again? Message: I, Kruniac, am selling one ASICMiner share to TheOrri on 6-6-2013 for 2.2 BTC and am awaiting payment. Signature: H/o0Bj8UXIM3Jo8iy6f2GWp3MRImGfus+dHxiYcc1LHcT5AhMShq6un/EPP42JmJcJZVSnLynfEHHE6n9L8dVZE= OK - Now sign a message with your sending address. Thx.
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June 10, 2013, 07:38:26 PM |
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The US Government does not acknowledge the presence of bitcoins... They would probably help you if someone robbed you in person or hacked you...
The FBI, CIA, Federal Reserve and the Department of Treasury, Department of Homeland Security and Department of Justice all have extensive knowledge of bitcoin. The recent FinCEN guidance, and DOJ/DHS action against MT GOX and it US subsidiary Mutum Sigillum make this clear and possibly indicate additional regulation and legislation coming. A simple "STFU" would have sufficed
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June 10, 2013, 07:39:32 PM |
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TheOrri you aren't listed under any of those transactions so you will fall down to a backup -- if all those TXs are not claimed I will decide if I will refund other people.
I can't open this up carte blanch to everyone who comes in claiming it. I hope you understand.
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June 10, 2013, 09:20:49 PM |
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He did nothing illegal
Whoever skyped him, and saw his face, will be very strong evidence if testimony is ever needed. Thats me. Anyone can tell the police ill do this for them np. I can even drive down to MD if i have to.
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June 10, 2013, 09:32:39 PM |
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TheOrri you aren't listed under any of those transactions so you will fall down to a backup -- if all those TXs are not claimed I will decide if I will refund other people.
I can't open this up carte blanch to everyone who comes in claiming it. I hope you understand.
I understand, and just wanted to say that it makes me smile to see there are people like you. Just for the record, my signed message confirming I was also stupid enough to fall for the scam, you are unfortunately not alone .... I, TheOrri own address 1HKtmZy2wtdnAuJMygp9pJVGge8xjMSc42 and was stupid enough to send 2.2 BTC to that f*cking scammer Kruniac. The transaction ID of this transaction is eda3badb8b9df829dba986c9030037975d1e1108fde6c897cae73a329bef92c7 Signature IH6217rE+2RJ1fVUxy1/vE7LfLjGbOqzwF3LzZRENKiR2r/2Cbx9NSXIIUq6YfVqmRRVPgXCt4vxpEw8Red55So=
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June 10, 2013, 09:33:55 PM |
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First of all your local police station are NOT going to file a report for at 200.00 internet fraud.
You have to file a small claim with your state government.
And Kruniac knows from experience that no one is going to bother to do that, which is why he is being so cavalier and nonchalant about the whole thing.
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June 10, 2013, 09:36:58 PM |
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We can still make him miserable through the power of internet.
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June 10, 2013, 09:41:26 PM |
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We can still make him miserable through the power of internet.
Frankly after talking to him I don't really think he cares what you post or do or say about him on the internet. (look at him many dating site profiles). Evidently he has been through a similar incident before and has admitted to being a long time e-bay scammer.
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June 10, 2013, 09:41:31 PM |
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BigBlitz, Both the send and receive address match and verify. He has a stronger claim them the other. I recommend you add him to the claim list and re allocate payout. If you want to be totally transparent about this you should probably only pay out (varified) addresses send to a proven Kruniac address. The others that send from Gox or Local bitcoin address (while probably verified) could be judgment call as how do you verify the screen shots were not tampered with. I'll leave that up to you and John. TheOrri you aren't listed under any of those transactions so you will fall down to a backup -- if all those TXs are not claimed I will decide if I will refund other people.
I can't open this up carte blanch to everyone who comes in claiming it. I hope you understand.
I understand, and just wanted to say that it makes me smile to see there are people like you. Just for the record, my signed message confirming I was also stupid enough to fall for the scam, you are unfortunately not alone .... I, TheOrri own address 1HKtmZy2wtdnAuJMygp9pJVGge8xjMSc42 and was stupid enough to send 2.2 BTC to that f*cking scammer Kruniac. The transaction ID of this transaction is eda3badb8b9df829dba986c9030037975d1e1108fde6c897cae73a329bef92c7 Signature IH6217rE+2RJ1fVUxy1/vE7LfLjGbOqzwF3LzZRENKiR2r/2Cbx9NSXIIUq6YfVqmRRVPgXCt4vxpEw8Red55So=
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June 10, 2013, 09:52:07 PM |
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Thx BCB, I will review tomorrow morning!
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June 10, 2013, 09:56:48 PM |
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First of all your local police station are NOT going to file a report for at 200.00 internet fraud.
You have to file a small claim with your state government.
And Kruniac knows from experience that no one is going to bother to do that, which is why he is being so cavalier and nonchalant about the whole thing.
Depends upon what department you are with. If it's the NYPD, probably not. But if you live in suburbia, where our cops get easily bored and ditch the cruiser to walk around the neighborhood for a few hours just to converse with other humans, they'll be more than happy to make that report. Though don't be too surprised if your report gets a coffee stain or doughnut stain on it!
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June 10, 2013, 10:04:39 PM |
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BigBlitz, Both the send and receive address match and verify. He has a stronger claim them the other. I recommend you add him to the claim list and re allocate payout. If you want to be totally transparent about this you should probably only pay out (varified) addresses send to a proven Kruniac address. The others that send from Gox or Local bitcoin address (while probably verified) could be judgment call as how do you verify the screen shots were not tampered with. I'll leave that up to you and John. TheOrri you aren't listed under any of those transactions so you will fall down to a backup -- if all those TXs are not claimed I will decide if I will refund other people.
I can't open this up carte blanch to everyone who comes in claiming it. I hope you understand.
I understand, and just wanted to say that it makes me smile to see there are people like you. Just for the record, my signed message confirming I was also stupid enough to fall for the scam, you are unfortunately not alone .... I, TheOrri own address 1HKtmZy2wtdnAuJMygp9pJVGge8xjMSc42 and was stupid enough to send 2.2 BTC to that f*cking scammer Kruniac. The transaction ID of this transaction is eda3badb8b9df829dba986c9030037975d1e1108fde6c897cae73a329bef92c7 Signature IH6217rE+2RJ1fVUxy1/vE7LfLjGbOqzwF3LzZRENKiR2r/2Cbx9NSXIIUq6YfVqmRRVPgXCt4vxpEw8Red55So= For verification of the payment from my localbitcoins ewallet, I'm willing to provide the login details for a trusted party to login and see the transaction was made.
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Just received this in a PM:
I'm still trying to figure out why this drama is even still unfolding, and why I'm getting BCCed on it. O.o
Alright, lemme weigh in my two cents.
1: I don't recall what you guys are talking about with all of this "scam" talk. I do not have a Bitcoin wallet that has seen any use whatsoever, and with access to a computer which sees up to 5 users a day, any one could be responsible for any number of unfortunate and most likely misunderstood dealings during the past month.
2: The moment you private message someone demanding payment (in any form) to prevent personal information from "leaking", it's classic blackmail. Extortion by US Code. Any "opinions" or "views" or "two cents" about it means nothing. It's there in plain text.
3: That having been said, I'm not interested in Ironcross, his naughty PM, or any of the "dox" on the internet. If I am indeed who you claim I am, then you could have gotten much better pictures than what you found. At least ones where I'm wearing some Armani or something. =/
4: BigBitz did go with the whole "scam a scammer" mentality, but you know what? That's okay. He's taking care of the community, and that really showed me a lot. I swore up and down that he was going to keep the coins, but he didn't (it seems). He's just a shark businessman who buys at $10 below spot, but seems to really care about giving back to those in need. I have all of the respect in the world for him, and for BCB (even if we don't agree on a few things).
At any rate. Following this tale of woe and luls has become a 20 minute a day hobby at this point. As I said, I'm not sure what you guys are talking about. The whole bytecoin, betcoin, batchcoin, hocus-pocus confuses me. I'm not tech savvy enough to get involved with bitchcoins or eye are see or whatever you crazy hipsters are doing.
I WILL however be -obscenely- glad to wait and watch to see where this goes. If I'm lucky, and it gets out of hand, I can start hurling defamation lawsuits at people and make some REAL money. We have a lawyer specifically for business transactions. He's always looking for a payday.
Your friend and neighbor - "Kruniac"
XOXOXOXXOXO <3 <3 <3 <3
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June 10, 2013, 10:24:18 PM |
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Just received this in a PM:
I'm still trying to figure out why this drama is even still unfolding, and why I'm getting BCCed on it. O.o
Alright, lemme weigh in my two cents.
1: I don't recall what you guys are talking about with all of this "scam" talk. I do not have a Bitcoin wallet that has seen any use whatsoever, and with access to a computer which sees up to 5 users a day, any one could be responsible for any number of unfortunate and most likely misunderstood dealings during the past month.
2: The moment you private message someone demanding payment (in any form) to prevent personal information from "leaking", it's classic blackmail. Extortion by US Code. Any "opinions" or "views" or "two cents" about it means nothing. It's there in plain text.
3: That having been said, I'm not interested in Ironcross, his naughty PM, or any of the "dox" on the internet. If I am indeed who you claim I am, then you could have gotten much better pictures than what you found. At least ones where I'm wearing some Armani or something. =/
4: BigBitz did go with the whole "scam a scammer" mentality, but you know what? That's okay. He's taking care of the community, and that really showed me a lot. I swore up and down that he was going to keep the coins, but he didn't (it seems). He's just a shark businessman who buys at $10 below spot, but seems to really care about giving back to those in need. I have all of the respect in the world for him, and for BCB (even if we don't agree on a few things).
At any rate. Following this tale of woe and luls has become a 20 minute a day hobby at this point. As I said, I'm not sure what you guys are talking about. The whole bytecoin, betcoin, batchcoin, hocus-pocus confuses me. I'm not tech savvy enough to get involved with bitchcoins or eye are see or whatever you crazy hipsters are doing.
I WILL however be -obscenely- glad to wait and watch to see where this goes. If I'm lucky, and it gets out of hand, I can start hurling defamation lawsuits at people and make some REAL money. We have a lawyer specifically for business transactions. He's always looking for a payday.
Your friend and neighbor - "Kruniac"
XOXOXOXXOXO <3 <3 <3 <3
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June 10, 2013, 10:37:12 PM |
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Love the change in tone once he saw the heat rising. He just took $5000 or more from a bunch of us, I'm not okay with letting that slide. My local cops will probably have their interest piqued enough to follow through with his local police.
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