PRISM - Who else is disgusted by this?

[Nik1ab]

Me neither, but I like not being watched so I am going to intstall some vpn software.
I'm not so stupid like most people to ignore this scandal.

[cWq34#9tH-3]

yeah, when i turned on fox news i couldnt belive it
but hey, i have nothing to hide

Saying "I have nothing to hide" is about the dumbest and most dangerous thing anyone could say about this: obviously you don't realize that it doesn't matter whether you have anything to hide or not because anything you say can and will be used (and twisted, and manipulated) against you. Words, and sentences, and situations can be easily selected, twisted, paired and/or taken our of context. Think of every word that you have used in the last 5-10 (or more) years or so.....etc. Even mis-dialed phone calls to someone could be used against you. I could go on and on... It really doesn't take much thought to see and to understand how incredibly and astronomically naive your position is. However, for whatever reason... you just don't get it.

So anyhow, bully for you, for you have just accepted and resigned yourself (and the rest of America/the former land of the brave and the free) to a position where you dare not express any discontent. Ever.

Let's also hope that everyone else that you might care about doesn't have anything to hide either. Let's also hope that all the politicians (that represent you and the rest of us over many serious & important matters) don't have anything to hide either.

Anyhow, you - you're in great shape, great and wonderfully submissive boot-licking shape! And it's good that you're okay with it. Stay submissive and subservient AND as long as you never grow a dissenting opinion and you never express any real concern then you'll be fine! Good man! Good man!

[Nik1ab]

yeah, when i turned on fox news i couldnt belive it
but hey, i have nothing to hide

Saying "I have nothing to hide" is about the dumbest and most dangerous thing anyone could say about this: obviously you don't realize that it doesn't matter whether you have anything to hide or not because anything you say can and will be used (and twisted, and manipulated) against you. Words, and sentences, and situations can be easily selected, twisted, paired and/or taken our of context. Think of every word that you have used in the last 5-10 (or more) years or so.....etc. Even mis-dialed phone calls to someone could be used against you. I could go on and on... It really doesn't take much thought to see and to understand how incredibly and astronomically naive your position is. However, for whatever reason... you just don't get it.

So anyhow, bully for you, for you have just accepted and resigned yourself (and the rest of America/the former land of the brave and the free) to a position where you dare not express any discontent. Ever.

Let's also hope that everyone else that you might care about doesn't have anything to hide either. Let's also hope that all the politicians (that represent you and the rest of us over many serious & important matters) don't have anything to hide either.

Anyhow, you - you're in great shape, great and wonderfully submissive boot-licking shape! And it's good that you're okay with it. Stay submissive and subservient AND as long as you never grow a dissenting opinion and you never express any real concern then you'll be fine! Good man! Good man!

That's exactly what I'm always telling the people!

[cWq34#9tH-3]

Me neither, but I like not being watched so I am going to intstall some vpn software.
I'm not so stupid like most people to ignore this scandal.

That's right, you're not stupid. And I mean that with all sincerity. You are acting with wisdom.

Some other options are to:
1: install tor
2. use tails on a USB
3. i2p
4. freenet

Also... included in tails are some other privacy programs for irc, pidgin, yahoo messenger, private email/pgp, etc.

Everyone if you are an American who appreciates and values their former freedom - then it is your duty to take these precautions and to spread the word and to help others with this.

That being said, I am here to help anyone with the use of these programs.

Available here: www.torproject.org

[cWq34#9tH-3]

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/audio/video/2013/7/31/1375269316245/KS4-001.jpg

NSA

Internet Explorer

 

Skype backdoor confirmation...

 http://lists.randombit.net/pipermail/cryptography/2013-May/004224.html

skype too! JC their like effin cockroaches! Where's the damn "raid" when you need it?

[Nik1ab]

The NSA is the greatest parasite since the beginning of life on earth...

[tvbcof]

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/audio/video/2013/7/31/1375269316245/KS4-001.jpg

NSA

Internet Explorer

 

Skype backdoor confirmation...

 http://lists.randombit.net/pipermail/cryptography/2013-May/004224.html

skype too! JC their like effin cockroaches! Where's the damn "raid" when you need it?

Skype was insecure!?!  That is a bit of a yawn to us 'conspiracy theorists.'

I'm predicting that there are extensive programs involving subversion of popular software (especially operating systems but also popular add-ons from vendors such as Adobe and Oracle) and device firmware which are providing surveillance data to the NSA and similar organizations.  Sometimes through the vendor and sometimes not.  It will be watching with interest to see if such programs follow up the latest 'xkeyscore' disclosure.

Thankfully Bitcoin is immune from subversion from such programs because the lead developers of the solution do not believe in 'conspiricy theories'.

[chmod755]

That is a bit of a yawn to us 'conspiracy theorists.'

The mission of agencies like the NSA is to fulfill the expectations of conspiracy theorists.

[cWq34#9tH-3]

What we are talking about here is a confirmed and indisputed conspiracy - not a theory.

And if OB isn't impeached and all of his henchmen run out of the gov then this will make a mockery of everyone who claims (or claimed) that this could never happen in our country and that they would never allow it. If this is allowed to stand then it's really over.

[RodeoX]

From an NSA instruction manual:
"Point barrel downward toward foot and depress trigger."

As of today I do not use the Internet, I am going to go 100% TOR. I would also like to see a list of backdoored software. I will certainly not be buying any such products in the future.


Here are some resources:  https://prism-break.org/

[bernard75]

yeah, when i turned on fox news i couldnt belive it
but hey, i have nothing to hide

Saying "I have nothing to hide" is about the dumbest and most dangerous thing anyone could say about this

And not understanding irony when its so obvious in light of the context is...ah well i leave the name calling to you.

[Nik1ab]

From an NSA instruction manual:
"Point barrel downward toward foot and depress trigger."

As of today I do not use the Internet, I am going to go 100% TOR. I would also like to see a list of backdoored software. I will certainly not be buying any such products in the future.


Here are some resources:  https://prism-break.org/

Thanks for this website! It is really useful!

[cWq34#9tH-3]

yeah, when i turned on fox news i couldnt belive it
but hey, i have nothing to hide

Saying "I have nothing to hide" is about the dumbest and most dangerous thing anyone could say about this

And not understanding irony when its so obvious in light of the context is...ah well i leave the name calling to you.

Nope, it absolutely isn't obvious in context when you consider that I have heard too many people say pretty much exactly what you did. First, they say it's wrong and then they say that it's no big deal because they have nothing to hide. And these idiots mean it. So how am I supposed to know that you aren't just another idiot?

[bbulker]

but hey, i have nothing to hide

Do you, or would you, live in a glass house?

[Jason]

Speaking of people who think they have nothing to hide...

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/01/government-tracking-google-searches

[bernard75]

ffs, yes!
wanna see my dick now?

extremely dumb people that dont understand irony
here is a little recap:
it has been talked about the government spying on us here even before prism and all that shit for ages and then this:

[bbulker]

You need something to indicate satire as it's difficult to detect through text.

But, yes it's true, this kind of spying has been around as long as the internet. If you believed in this before it was in the news, you were looked at as a crazy conspiracy theorist.

[bernard75]

But, yes it's true, this kind of spying has been around as long as the internet. If you believed in this before it was in the news, you were looked at as a crazy conspiracy theorist.

Certainly, but here 99% of the members are tinfoilhat wearers.
Fully equipped with VPNs, TOR, PGP etc. long before it broke the news.

[tvbcof]

But, yes it's true, this kind of spying has been around as long as the internet. If you believed in this before it was in the news, you were looked at as a crazy conspiracy theorist.

Certainly, but here 99% of the members are tinfoilhat wearers.
Fully equipped with VPNs, TOR, PGP etc. long before it broke the news.

Actually being secretive is probably the most sure-fire way to call attention to oneself, and once under the microscope one will need a truly extraordinary amount of technical ability to operate privately.  Unless you are a geek among geeks you probably don't have much of a chance if you are a person of significant interest.

I've long felt that the (supposed) massive data collection actually works well for anyone who has something to hide...and is smart enough to be an actual 'threat' if that is their disposition.  By being completely normal at all times and very carefully using secure methods to carry out important business it is more than likely that the 'evildoer' will evade any analysis whatsoever.  But again, this surveillance has probably close to zero to do with catching 'evildoers' as the the term is defined for public consumption and a great deal to do with political intimidation and what-not.

BTW, I am somewhat shocked at how 'mainstream' so many of the people in Bitcoin-land actually are, and also somewhat disappointed.  At this point I think it unlikely that the solution will develop the hardening it will need to succeed if/when the reason for the development of surveillance state emerges.

[Spendulus]

Actually being secretive is probably the most sure-fire way to call attention to oneself, and once under the microscope one will need a truly extraordinary amount of technical ability to operate privately.  Unless you are a geek among geeks you probably don't have much of a chance if you are a person of significant interest.
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I'd disagree completely.   Here is why.  We routinely use SSL, is that "secretive"?  Nope, because it is common.  Many, many people use VPNs, if someone adopts such use is that "secretive"?  Nope.  Carry this forward with various other techniques and you see the flaw in the logic.  I recently quit using google's services entirely.  Does that mean I "called attention to myself?"

"Once under the microscope"

REALLY?  Whose microscope exactly?

The NSA?  The IRS?  Eric Holder's crime gang?  Any of 50 commercial companies who want your data?

In my opinion, government and private company snooping falls into the malware/virus/worm category of nuisances.  And people have found anti virus programs to be very popular.  Similar for many other things that protect the little guy against "people who would steal their data".  So our protecting against outsiders is not new at all.