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January 28, 2018, 02:26:25 PM
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I can say that there should be no which is which if bitcoin is an asset or a currency. Bitcoin in terms of asset, first of all what is asset, asset is something that you owns, you're property and maybe not all of here has bitcoin but if you have one in your account it will be consider yours. Bitcoin as an currency, currency is a system of money in general use in a particular country. We all know Bitcoin is a digital currency that only exist electronically so bitcoin is a system of money that we can use for transaction electronically.
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January 28, 2018, 02:27:29 PM
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Bitcoin is asset right now. Until we can use it for microtransactions and until I can't buy coffee with BTC, I call it asset! But when and if fees will go higher than now, I don't know how to name it!
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January 28, 2018, 02:28:48 PM
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Bitcoin can be an asset for the future. because with bitcoin we can save for long term investment, such as investment in the form of gold, land, property, insurance, pension, and others.

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January 28, 2018, 02:37:17 PM
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bitcoin is a cryptocurrency man...so of course its a currency...but for now it also called an asset because you can use it for an investment and other things like trading
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January 28, 2018, 02:39:21 PM
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I don't know why the majority of the members here are arguing about classifying what Bitcoin is. Because if you own Bitcoin as a currency then it is classified as an asset, a liquid asset to be precise as anything you own that can be use to pay off something is classified as an asset. It doesn't matter whether it only exist virtually as it still has an intrinsic value to it.
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January 28, 2018, 02:41:20 PM
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I think It is both. Grin

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January 29, 2018, 02:28:35 PM
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This is similar to a question that asks "is cash an asset or a currency". When you hold it with expectation of appreciation, it's more of an asset. If you use it to exchange for things you need, it is an currency. Simple like that.
that asset that I know of our ownership of the rights we get. with that asset already belongs to us, but the currency is quite different, if the money is enough we need for a medium of exchange is not for us to save such an important asset, such as land.
Well it is not like land but yeah one resemblance that bitcoin has with land asset and it is that both of them can be kept for long time so it will give you benefits. Bitcoin is something really interesting as you can sue for all kind of needs, if you are not in need of money you can make bitcoin asset buy investing your money in bitcoin at the same time you can invest so bitcoin has both qualities it is all up to us that how and where we use our bitcoin.
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January 29, 2018, 02:44:38 PM
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The American courts may be about to decide:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-29/can-bitcoin-be-regulated-u-s-courts-are-about-to-decide

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The U.S. is trying to regulate cybercurrency offerings. It’s still unclear whether it has the authority to do so.

Federal judges in Brooklyn, New York, are about to rule on the question. In doing so, they could determine whether Bitcoin and other stateless currencies are securities that can be regulated like stocks or bonds. Courts across the country are likely to consult these rulings when considering other cybercurrency cases.

“If it’s not a security, then what is it?” said Peter Henning, a former SEC and Justice Department lawyer who is now a professor at Wayne State University Law School.

In what is believed to be the first criminal case focusing on an initial coin offering, Brooklyn businessman Maksim Zaslavskiy was charged in a case unsealed in November with promoting digital currencies backed by investments in real estate and diamonds that U.S. prosecutors said didn’t exist. The Securities and Exchange Commission also sued.

U.S. District Judge Raymond Dearie said he’ll allow Zaslavskiy’s lawyers in both the criminal and civil cases to challenge whether ICOs can be considered a security under U.S. law. The government has until March 19 to file its argument that cybercurrency is a security.

“If the judge makes the determination that this is not a security, he’d dismiss the criminal case,” said Mildred Whalen, Zaslavskiy’s criminal-defense lawyer. “He recognizes this is a fundamental issue in both cases. It’s all completely new territory.”

Another judge in the Brooklyn federal courthouse is being asked to rule on how cryptocurrencies and ICOs should be treated under U.S. laws.

In that case, the SEC sued last month against Dominic Lacroix, whom it called a “recidivist securities law violator.” The SEC says his Canadian company marketed an ICO called PlexCoin to investors in the U.S. and abroad without registering with U.S. authorities or disclosing past misdeeds.

Lacroix, 35, and his 26-year-old partner Sabrina Paradis-Royer used Twitter, Facebook and blogs last year to raise about $15 million from thousands of investors, the SEC said. Investors in PlexCoin were told profits would be bolstered because the firm had almost 50 “market experts” working primarily in Singapore, who’d list the virtual currency on digital asset exchanges and push secondary market trading.

In reality, the SEC says, it was a scam. Only a handful of employees worked for Lacroix in Quebec, and he concealed his involvement in the company because he has a history of committing securities fraud in Canada. An asset freeze last month was a victory for the SEC’s Cyber Unit, stopping an ICO that promised investors a 13-fold profit in less than 29 days.

U.S. District Judge Carol Amon said she will first decide if the SEC has territorial jurisdiction sue before determining whether PlexCoin was a security. Lacroix is in custody in Quebec after a contempt ruling.

Jason Gottlieb, Lacroix’s U.S. lawyer, said in a letter to the judge that he would challenge the SEC’s contention that it has authority over the matter.

“It’s the Canadians who have unique jurisdiction here, and for reasons of international comity, I don’t think we should be mucking about in their process,” Gottlieb told the judge at a Jan. 9 hearing.

The SEC’s lawyers plan to file their response to Gottlieb’s argument in May. Ryan White, a spokesman for the SEC, declined to comment on Gottlieb’s claims.


 
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January 29, 2018, 03:12:37 PM
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Seems many people treat bitcoin like an asset given how much it's gone up over the last year or so. But some academics disagree with that assessment. If it is to be treated as a currency, it will need to stabilize to be of use.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/24/nyus-dean-of-valuation-says-bitcoin-is-a-currency.html

Bitcoin can be called currency and assets. Bitcoin becomes currency if used for transactions because basically bitcoin is crypto currency. Bitcoin has the potential to continue to increase and can last long, therefore bitcoin can be called an asset because its value continues to increase.
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January 29, 2018, 03:26:29 PM
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bitcoin as an assets, yes bitcoin is an assets since it is liquid and can easily be turned into cash. It is n assets since it can be an investment that can be trade since, bitcoin can be sold and you can also buy it.
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January 29, 2018, 04:14:03 PM
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In my opinion, it will depend on the person holding the bitcoin it can be asset and currency. Do heard or read the article of the 19 yrs. of bitcoin millionaire. Named Erick Finman to invest at an early age on the bitcoin. His mindset that bitcoin is an asset that helps him the future even deep down. If the person stored or stock the bitcoin in his or her wallet, we can say this is an asset. We can tell the currency can be used to buy stuff, paying bills. If the person converts bitcoin to another altcoin, it will remain an asset.
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January 29, 2018, 04:17:54 PM
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Seems many people treat bitcoin like an asset given how much it's gone up over the last year or so. But some academics disagree with that assessment. If it is to be treated as a currency, it will need to stabilize to be of use.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/24/nyus-dean-of-valuation-says-bitcoin-is-a-currency.html

Actually bitcoin was born to build new digital currency ecosystem and not for digital investment.
But recently, bitcoin is more treated as investment asset. Its not surprising because the growing of bitcoin make bitcoin holder get their big profit.

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January 29, 2018, 04:19:47 PM
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The treatment of bitcoin to be an asset or a currency depends on the user, I treat bitcoin to be both a currency and an asset....

Bitcoin is a currency as it'll get accepted in many places soon!
IMO i think bitcoin is already accepted everywhere what its just lacking is mainstream adoption to use it freely without the question of regulations.
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January 29, 2018, 04:21:18 PM
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Seems many people treat bitcoin like an asset given how much it's gone up over the last year or so. But some academics disagree with that assessment. If it is to be treated as a currency, it will need to stabilize to be of use.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/24/nyus-dean-of-valuation-says-bitcoin-is-a-currency.html
early created bitcoin for ease of transaction, such as delivery, transfer, payment. and bitcoin made for real-world currency equality. but the more time, many want bitcoin so the price starts to rise. because the bitcoin is considered an asset. and already no real currency back
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January 29, 2018, 04:27:47 PM
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I think bitcoin is an asset or a currency both.Because anyone can convert bitcoin in liqued cash money anytime,So it's a asset.In the meen time it a currency also.Anyone can use bitcoin in any local currency,thank you.

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January 29, 2018, 04:31:22 PM
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When you hold it with expectation of appreciation, it's more of an asset. If you use it to exchange for things you need, it is an currency.
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January 29, 2018, 08:17:58 PM
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This is similar to a question that asks "is cash an asset or a currency". When you hold it with expectation of appreciation, it's more of an asset. If you use it to exchange for things you need, it is an currency. Simple like that.
that asset that I know of our ownership of the rights we get. with that asset already belongs to us, but the currency is quite different, if the money is enough we need for a medium of exchange is not for us to save such an important asset, such as land.
Well it is not like land but yeah one resemblance that bitcoin has with land asset and it is that both of them can be kept for long time so it will give you benefits. Bitcoin is something really interesting as you can sue for all kind of needs, if you are not in need of money you can make bitcoin asset buy investing your money in bitcoin at the same time you can invest so bitcoin has both qualities it is all up to us that how and where we use our bitcoin.
Here I do agree with you but if we look at qualities and features then bitcoin is better than land business because no doubt a bitcoin holder is better than a landlord. Holding bitcoin means growth as price of bitcoin sue to grow everyday but land is not so expensive its price use to grow very slow, so there is no comparison at all. Bitcoin is an asset and we use to hold it for long time to get better output and better future form bitcoin.
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January 29, 2018, 08:50:21 PM
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To me BTC is your asset as well as your cryptocurrency.Now lets analyze it asset aspect,asset mean a valuable thing from which we can benefit in future,You investment in your BTC increase your asset or you earn your BTC online or whatever,increasing your wealth.Now second aspect is how it can be treated as currency,you can convert your BTC into cash and make shoppings,make payments,now it is acting like a currency.This is my thinking and it may vary from person to person.SO BTC enjoys both asset aspect and currency aspect.
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January 29, 2018, 11:42:00 PM
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bitcoin  have double functions, as an asset and a digital currency. But the fact is bitcoin is still used more for investment and not as a medium of exchange. Because it  takes a lot of adaptation from many companies and businesses, so  bitcoin can be used more as a medium of exchange by people
Yes, I agree with you. It can be an asset because you can either trade or hold it while waiting its price to increase. And in other way, it can be a currency because bitcoin can be use in paying bills or buying something.
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January 30, 2018, 01:07:30 AM
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If bitcoin is a currency, then its floating is too dramatic. This will affect its willingness to use it as a currency.
People will decide for the asset or currency Bitcoin, it is to see that there is no price. Bitcoin price fluctuations, I prefer being defined as assets.
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