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March 20, 2022, 07:17:22 PM
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Why all the countries hate cryptocurrencies ? Why they hate us making some money? They want us to be dependent on them for everything and if there is any opportunity for us to rise then they block its path. Same restrictive policies might be applied to our financial system, and that would be very damaging to all of us.

Let me Guide you about it.

First of All why we need crypto?

Simple answer without any technical words to transfer a large amount of money with low cost. To store money in low cost.
Other aspect i am excluded as we all know.

Why Government hate crypto?

Real reason is that Government in otherwords some Powers who want to control Whole world don't want to flow Money freely because money is only aspect  by which they can control each an everything of our life.

Reason Governments Use (Lame excuse) That if no body will control money then it may goes towards terrorist and Black market it can fixed by proper policies.

Why we need crypto?

We want free will to control our assets to freely invest. We want secure degitlize and Fixed Valueable money which is crypto. Because of fixed supply. We want that our money should hold More Value in future as compared to today but in real world its not possible due Unfixed Supply of money.

The point is not of earning some money point is our money our rules means frewill and non devalued money .

Thats it in simole

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March 20, 2022, 08:16:07 PM
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Why all the countries hate cryptocurrencies ? Why they hate us making some money? They want us to be dependent on them for everything and if there is any opportunity for us to rise then they block its path. Same restrictive policies might be applied to our financial system, and that would be very damaging to all of us.

Let me Guide you about it.

First of All why we need crypto?

Simple answer without any technical words to transfer a large amount of money with low cost. To store money in low cost.
Other aspect i am excluded as we all know.

Why Government hate crypto?

Real reason is that Government in otherwords some Powers who want to control Whole world don't want to flow Money freely because money is only aspect  by which they can control each an everything of our life.

Reason Governments Use (Lame excuse) That if no body will control money then it may goes towards terrorist and Black market it can fixed by proper policies.

Why we need crypto?

We want free will to control our assets to freely invest. We want secure degitlize and Fixed Valueable money which is crypto. Because of fixed supply. We want that our money should hold More Value in future as compared to today but in real world its not possible due Unfixed Supply of money.

The point is not of earning some money point is our money our rules means frewill and non devalued money .

Thats it in simole

Very well explained.

Let me explain little bit more.
Government hates cryptocurrency because it can be used for.
1. Money Laundring
2. Terrorism

And some points are also here.
1.Not easy to track.
2. Sender & Gainer remain anonymous.

I may be wrong.
If I so please tell me where?
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Why all the countries hate cryptocurrencies ? Why they hate us making some money? They want us to be dependent on them for everything and if there is any opportunity for us to rise then they block its path. Same restrictive policies might be applied to our financial system, and that would be very damaging to all of us.

Most of the Governments with few exceptions don't want us to invest and hold  crypto currencies because due to decentralized nature of crypto they lose control on economy/money supply and it challenges the credibility of Fiat based centrally controlled banking system which allows them to  print fiat currency as and when they want, contrary to Bitcoin which has limited supply.. Money is a powerful tool which governments want to keep in their hands  to use it for controlling the life of the people and make political gains.

https://blog.pipeflare.io/why-governments-dont-want-you-to-have-crypto/#:~:text=Other%20theories%20argue%20that%20one%20of%20the%20biggest,they%20are%20also%20a%20simple%20means%20of%20surveillance.?msclkid=c559b76ca8b411ecbbfd92646913f96a
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March 21, 2022, 05:03:46 AM
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# I Stand with Imran Khan.  Do you?


TUM JEETO YA HARO HUM TUMHARY SATH HAN
Now there are guests of OIC in Islamabad and Bilawal is bringing in constitution. They are always concerned about constitution and keeps on breaking and changing  it to fit in their need what suits them. There are goods and bad in every government - but I don't doubt Imran Khan honesty towards Pakistan. And the whole world is fighting post corona war - let's be patient!
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March 21, 2022, 05:13:30 AM
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Why all the countries hate cryptocurrencies ? Why they hate us making some money? They want us to be dependent on them for everything and if there is any opportunity for us to rise then they block its path. Same restrictive policies might be applied to our financial system, and that would be very damaging to all of us.

Let me Guide you about it.

First of All why we need crypto?

Simple answer without any technical words to transfer a large amount of money with low cost. To store money in low cost.
Other aspect i am excluded as we all know.

Why Government hate crypto?

Real reason is that Government in otherwords some Powers who want to control Whole world don't want to flow Money freely because money is only aspect  by which they can control each an everything of our life.

Reason Governments Use (Lame excuse) That if no body will control money then it may goes towards terrorist and Black market it can fixed by proper policies.

Why we need crypto?

We want free will to control our assets to freely invest. We want secure degitlize and Fixed Valueable money which is crypto. Because of fixed supply. We want that our money should hold More Value in future as compared to today but in real world its not possible due Unfixed Supply of money.

The point is not of earning some money point is our money our rules means frewill and non devalued money .

Thats it in simole

Very well explained.

Let me explain little bit more.
Government hates cryptocurrency because it can be used for.
1. Money Laundring
2. Terrorism

And some points are also here.
1.Not easy to track.
2. Sender & Gainer remain anonymous.

I may be wrong.
If I so please tell me where?


No, You are absolutely Right i just want to say every problem is cureable. We need fix issue on behalf of Just Baning  and Completely disconnecting it.

Everything will be fixed let me tell you how

Solution:
Its a rough sketch lets do it.

I want to say If Government lunches its own Centralized exchange (wait wait) just to Provide the Stable currency to its users to buy Crypto there will be a check point note check point government can Check which person is buying how much money then,

Again Nobody will be able to withdraw crypto into Cash or Country Currency without that exchange then government can charge taxs and track the Blance in between users are free to intrect.

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No, You are absolutely Right i just want to say every problem is cureable. We need fix issue on behalf of Just Baning  and Completely disconnecting it.

Everything will be fixed let me tell you how

Solution:
Its a rough sketch lets do it.

I want to say If Government lunches its own Centralized exchange (wait wait) just to Provide the Stable currency to its users to buy Crypto there will be a check point note check point government can Check which person is buying how much money then,

Again Nobody will be able to withdraw crypto into Cash or Country Currency without that exchange then government can charge taxs and track the Blance in between users are free to intrect.
Government has done so much for freelancers, just because they are bringing so much remittance to the nation- if the freelancer are acknowledged I am sure in coming days government will realize that crypto is fine market to be given due importance. Days are near when we will see good future of crypto in Pakistan - If Kaptain stays for sometime! 

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March 21, 2022, 06:55:46 AM
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We want free will to control our assets to freely invest. We want secure degitlize and Fixed Valueable money which is crypto. Because of fixed supply. We want that our money should hold More Value in future as compared to today but in real world its not possible due Unfixed Supply of money.


Money game is a dirty game - authorities would want to have control over people. If they are not dependent on hard money they would no longer be slave. But time has come that the future is crypto is bright. It will make its own way. In coming decade the transactions will be unimaginable and things will be amazing. Inshallah! Let's hope IK do some good things for crypto.

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No, You are absolutely Right i just want to say every problem is cureable. We need fix issue on behalf of Just Baning  and Completely disconnecting it.

Everything will be fixed let me tell you how

Solution:
Its a rough sketch lets do it.

I want to say If Government lunches its own Centralized exchange (wait wait) just to Provide the Stable currency to its users to buy Crypto there will be a check point note check point government can Check which person is buying how much money then,

Again Nobody will be able to withdraw crypto into Cash or Country Currency without that exchange then government can charge taxs and track the Blance in between users are free to intrect.
Government has done so much for freelancers, just because they are bringing so much remittance to the nation- if the freelancer are acknowledged I am sure in coming days government will realize that crypto is fine market to be given due importance. Days are near when we will see good future of crypto in Pakistan - If Kaptain stays for sometime! 

Yes bro our government already know about our issues problem is our gray list economy  on FATF that is the reason the pressure of the FATF and world bank id not allowing government to develop policies for crypto.
Hope for good may be We will be Whitelisted soon and Insha Allah Pakistan will progress.

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Sorry mate, but I won't agree with you here. Benazir was corrupt and you can check her history, She wasn't a self made politician, she just rode on the legacy of her father. And most of her supporters still follow her becaue of "Bhutto", the same "Bhutto" mr Bilawal is trying to cash.
Where as Imran Khan is a self made politician, he worked hard, first in cricket, then in the social works like Cancer Hospital and then came to politics. So comparing him to BB is kind of a disgrace to this man's 22 years of struggle. And he is not corrupt. One thing, that almost all other politicians lack.

As far as his promises, i think he has done well,
Education standardized, (long term rewards).
Lower tabqa is being provided 14k each month to not make them get effected by the inflation.
Sehat Card,
Dams are being built,
Textile industry getting back online big time,
IT sector getting stronger,
corrupt mafias exposed,
Pakistan trying to act as a free nation,
current deficit is getting lower and lower.
Agriculture reforms are introduced.
Doctors made to prescribe the formula then the brand of medicine. A move that can destroy the medicine mafia.


Yes dear you have every right to disagree, however my comments were not about her corruption but about her international fame and it's true she was a world known politician. Among all the politician who enjoy close and personal relationships with foreign political leaders or monarchs Imran Khan and Benzir Bhutto stands out prominently And i won't be wrong if I say Imran Khan is even better known to the world than Benzir.

No doubt there are many reforms which PTI government have implemented and results of those reforms will appear after few years but also at the same time few very important sectors still need serious attention if try to name top two it will be

- No. 1 police reforms - This much is needed although responsibility of this falls under provinces but as a federal government nothing much is changed whether its FIA or local police
- Health - Yes sehat card is one of the best things ever happened in Pakistan but situation of government hospitals is still miserable. Much work is needed here too.

Well I'm not here just to criticize things, so again I will rephrase in the current setup Imran Khan is the only option Pakistan have.
 


Ap n system ki bt ki to is par m b kuch kh ln..

Sirf hm hukumat yaa hukumti membran ko galat nai kh skty.
Kuch hmari b galtyan hen...
Jese ap ab sindh m chaly jaen ... Wahan Wadera system abhi b abad h... Smj to gaye hi hn gy ap sb... Yani udhar abhi b zmeendar log hen jo ghareeb k bachon ko qablyat hony k bawjud upar nai any dete...
Or tohmat prasti ki hadd h wahan..
Kese y b ab misal deti hun...
Ab Kala bagh Dam ko dekh len... Wahan wderon n kaya bt phelai h k agar y Dam ban gaya to hm sb bhuky mar jaen gy hmary bachon k pas khany ko kuch nai hoga... Yani esy baten kar k logon k zehan mauf kiye huwe hen...
Ab agar koi uss system k khilaf jata h to agly din uss ki laash kisi nehar m terti milti h ...
Mean y k hm khud upar nai ana chahty...
Ik do nai sb ki soch bdly gi to inqlab aye gaa.

Baqi Allah hmen esa hukmran dy jo sai mano m Pakistan kaa kher kha ho or Allah  Pakistan ko traqi or khush hali ki rah par gamzan kary ... Ammeenn

Kia Noor behna banda kiss kiss ko roey kasam se... wo punjabi main kehte hian... "jeda bhanoo oho laal aey    جیڑا بنھوں اہو لال اے" ... ap Pujabi nahi tu shaid us tarah samaj nah aey mutlab kuch aise hai jiss ko toro wohi ander se laal surkh hai or simple words main tabah haal hai.

ye wadera system sirf sindh main nahi hamary punjab aur Baluchistan main bhi bus naam aur shakal different hia kaam wohi hia... Punjab main Chaudhary, Rajay, Malik hon gey aur Baluchistan main shaid Sardaar but kaam aik jese he hian..

ye logon ki taderon se khalte hian... kiss ne kitna jeena hia aur kiss ne kitna khaana ye khuda ki is zameen pe nakhuda hian..




By the way I have political Experience as i am too young still o have watched 2 Governments i will say the Democratic movement which is implemented in Pakistan should be changed to the Presidential System where the leader whom People choose should have complete acces to each and everything from law Creation to demonstration.

Like Khlaifa system we know. Government should need to be Decentralized .

Thanks Shahzadafzal sir for explaining about the Activity Count in Bitcointalk

You are right ye wali democracy tu wakai Pakistan k haq main nahi... jiss main jab chain 172 bande mil k poray Pakistan ko yar ghamaal bana lain... 2/3 majority in Government is very import to have something stable. Jo hamari establishment aur foreign powers kabhi nahi hone dein ge... they know how to control these politicians, Hilary Clinton once correctly said Pakistan is a deep state.



Now there are guests of OIC in Islamabad and Bilawal is bringing in constitution. They are always concerned about constitution and keeps on breaking and changing  it to fit in their need what suits them. There are goods and bad in every government - but I don't doubt Imran Khan honesty towards Pakistan. And the whole world is fighting post corona war - let's be patient!

well on this i will say tit for tat PTI ne bhi apni bari kuch aisa he kia tha jab CPEC k liye Chinses president ne visit karna tha tab PTI k protest ki waja se wo visit postponed hua tha. Ab OIC ki conference ki aik bahoot bari conference based on Pakistan's current political crises tu opposition kese iss se faida nah uthay... why would the give Imran Khan a chance to score a good point here. because these politicians they don't care about Pakistan... bus apni kursi ki fikar rehti hai Smiley







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March 21, 2022, 09:46:33 AM
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Ladies and gentlemen, woh log jo bitcoin ki four year cycle p yaqeen rakthay hein aunhein apni sooch ko badlna hoga. Bitcoin ab aus tarah c behave ni ker raha aur na ais bar blow off top aya bitcoin ki prices mein. Ais ka mutlab yeh hua k bitcoin agar bohat zada pump hi hu ais bull run mein tu bohat zada dump bhi ni hoga aur shaid hum dobara 30,000$ c kabi neechay na jaaien.

Badal giya hay bitcoin badal giya hay zamana...






https://cointelegraph.com/news/no-more-4-year-cycles-5-things-to-know-in-bitcoin-this-week

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March 21, 2022, 10:12:06 AM
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Very well explained.

Let me explain little bit more.
Government hates cryptocurrency because it can be used for.
1. Money Laundring
2. Terrorism

And some points are also here.
1.Not easy to track.
2. Sender & Gainer remain anonymous.

I may be wrong.
If I so please tell me where?


I will beg to disagree please...

Money laundering is just an excuse, when your internal financial system is broken and it facilitates money laundering crypto or fiat no one can stop money laundering.
Of course to have a crypto in the first place you need to have fiat first and now if your fiat cash is a black or corrupt money of course your crypto assets will be corrupt too but if you have legal money and you convert it into crypto assets then your crypto is legal too.

So we should fix our financial system first, if we fix this money laundering in crypto will not happen. Same applies to terrorism its just a speculation, there are no proofs that Cyrpto/Bitcoin is funding terrorism.

Now whether it's easy to track or not... I guess this is the most easiest part... We have seen in US FBI have recovered stolen Bitcoin and seized funds worth millions of dollars in bitcoins, not only one time but now this happening quite often... so we can't say that it's not possible to track crypto transactions. It is very much possible.

Yes on the anonymity part you might be right to some extent but once you try to convert you crypto to fiat you know how easy it will be to link your so called "anonymous crypto wallet" to your passport, Goverment id, your selfie, your mobile number or whatever garbage we have been upload to these exchanges.

So to stay anonyms, don't convert your "stolen" cryptos to fait Smiley just kidding.





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Now whether it's easy to track or not... I guess this is the most easiest part... We have seen in US FBI have recovered stolen Bitcoin and seized funds worth millions of dollars in bitcoins, not only one time but now this happening quite often... so we can't say that it's not possible to track crypto transactions. It is very much possible.

Yes on the anonymity part you might be right to some extent but once you try to convert you crypto to fiat you know how easy it will be to link your so called "anonymous crypto wallet" to your passport, Goverment id, your selfie, your mobile number or whatever garbage we have been upload to these exchanges.


Bitcoin is more trackable than fiat. Sab kuch blockchain p transparent hay. Jo yeh kehtay hein k governments bitcoin is leiy use ni kerti kion k yeh track ni ho saktha, its a false myth. Yahan p loggon ka alt accounts pakaray jatay hein crypto transactions p aur hum baat kertay hein k track ni ho saktay  Cheesy


So to stay anonyms, don't convert your "stolen" cryptos to fait Smiley just kidding.

First, convert them into Monero cryptocurrency and then do whatever you feel like  Wink

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Now whether it's easy to track or not... I guess this is the most easiest part... We have seen in US FBI have recovered stolen Bitcoin and seized funds worth millions of dollars in bitcoins, not only one time but now this happening quite often... so we can't say that it's not possible to track crypto transactions. It is very much possible.

Yes on the anonymity part you might be right to some extent but once you try to convert you crypto to fiat you know how easy it will be to link your so called "anonymous crypto wallet" to your passport, Goverment id, your selfie, your mobile number or whatever garbage we have been upload to these exchanges.


Bitcoin is more trackable than fiat. Sab kuch blockchain p transparent hay. Jo yeh kehtay hein k governments bitcoin is leiy use ni kerti kion k yeh track ni ho saktha, its a false myth. Yahan p loggon ka alt accounts pakaray jatay hein crypto transactions p aur hum baat kertay hein k track ni ho saktay  Cheesy


So to stay anonyms, don't convert your "stolen" cryptos to fait Smiley just kidding.

First, convert them into Monero cryptocurrency and then do whatever you feel like  Wink

Asslam o Alikum
Sir Umer i have already mentioned in my post that Government use these lame excuses well it is lame excuse as you explained.
Financial systems and the type of Democracy in which Asian Countries especially like Pakistan India are Living There Money Laundering can not be controlled because the system which develop to control is it dont have powers to Stop it they can just track even now thay even cant track.
System Should provide power to them that they can punish those involved people without any interference.

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Good news from a Pakistani perspective and for Waqar Zaka cointelegraph posted an amazing video about Crypto journey of Waqar Zaka

“Crypto Billionaire”



https://youtu.be/eZ0dFzxXTV4

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March 21, 2022, 02:24:04 PM
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Good news from a Pakistani perspective and for Waqar Zaka cointelegraph posted an amazing video about Crypto journey of Waqar Zaka

“Crypto Billionaire”



https://youtu.be/eZ0dFzxXTV4
Very good animated video.
Waqar zaka kafi mehnat to kar raha hai k Pakistan mai b crypto currency legalize ho jaye. Allah kre iski mehnat rang ly aye. Agar Pakistan mai crypto currency legal ho jati hai to is se Pakistan ko kafi faida ho ga. jese k India na 30% tax lagaya hai crypto per. To is trhan agar Pakistan 5-10% b tax lagata hai to is se kafi revenue jama ho sakta hai.
Shahzad afzal sahib apka is bare mai kya comments hain k Kya waqar zaka hum sub k liye theek kr rha hai.?

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Kia Noor behna banda kiss kiss ko roey kasam se... wo punjabi main kehte hian... "jeda bhanoo oho laal aey    جیڑا بنھوں اہو لال اے" ... ap Pujabi nahi tu shaid us tarah samaj nah aey mutlab kuch aise hai jiss ko toro wohi ander se laal surkh hai or simple words main tabah haal hai.

ye wadera system sirf sindh main nahi hamary punjab aur Baluchistan main bhi bus naam aur shakal different hia kaam wohi hia... Punjab main Chaudhary, Rajay, Malik hon gey aur Baluchistan main shaid Sardaar but kaam aik jese he hian..

ye logon ki taderon se khalte hian... kiss ne kitna jeena hia aur kiss ne kitna khaana ye khuda ki is zameen pe nakhuda hian..
Sab s phly to m punjabi bht achy s smj leti hun...
Or m n y misal sirf Kala bhag dam ki waja s d...
Or ap thk khty hen... M b zara punjabi m ik mhawra bol deti hun... Ethy ty itt patto ty wadera niklda a..






Bitcoin is more trackable than fiat. Sab kuch blockchain p transparent hay. Jo yeh kehtay hein k governments bitcoin is leiy use ni kerti kion k yeh track ni ho saktha, its a false myth. Yahan p loggon ka alt accounts pakaray jatay hein crypto transactions p aur hum baat kertay hein k track ni ho saktay  Cheesy
I have said I might be wrong. Because y mera low knowledge h ... M yhi sunti ai hun...
Iss liye y kaha m n k not easy to track.. 
Ab kuch boli hun to knowledge mila ap s... Nai to ap to retirement dy k frar hony lagy thy... Cheesy




Of course to have a crypto in the first place you need to have fiat first and now if your fiat cash is a black or corrupt money of course your crypto assets will be corrupt too but if you have legal money and you convert it into crypto assets then your crypto is legal too.
O ly...
Y to m n socha hi nai... Thanks shahzadafzal...
Bilkul smj gai... K agar source hi black h to hm cryptocurrency ko bdnam q? Karty hen... Jab k invest hi black huwa h...
Thanks to all... Points clear ho gye...



Good news from a Pakistani perspective and for Waqar Zaka cointelegraph posted an amazing video about Crypto journey of Waqar Zaka

“Crypto Billionaire”



https://youtu.be/eZ0dFzxXTV4

Y to sai hero ban gaya h...
Chalen g Allah kary is ki mhnten rang ly aen... Aammeenn
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March 21, 2022, 03:14:49 PM
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Good news from a Pakistani perspective and for Waqar Zaka cointelegraph posted an amazing video about Crypto journey of Waqar Zaka

Its time to spread this to the world  Cool

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5390717.msg59596834#msg59596834

Shahzad afzal sahib apka is bare mai kya comments hain k Kya waqar zaka hum sub k liye theek kr rha hai.?

Koi bhi 100% good ya bad ni hota. I think  waqar zaka ki kuch batein achi bhi hein aur kuch sai ni bhi hein

Pros:
1) He is giving crypto awareness in 10$ per month jo k bohat cheap price hy.
2) He is fighting to make crypto legal

Cons:
1) He has some hidden agenda to promote his coin/exchanges
2) He is promoting future trading , new traders must be losing a lot
3) Woh trading sikka ni raha, he wants k you become his student forever and fazool batein like trading signals through astrology etc

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March 21, 2022, 03:29:58 PM
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Monday still going red. Lets wait for next break through.

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Monday still going red. Lets wait for next break through.


Bro the Closing was not good i said that in last post about moving average that BTC needs to break a Logical and Physical Resistance of 43500 and close weekly candle above 20 MA then we can see a big boom it didn't happened wait for the April. But May June are Bearish months.

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Sorry out of topic hun ...
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