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Author Topic: BitcoinOrama Report on the KnCminer/OrSoC Open-day Mon 10/06/13 (Stockholm)  (Read 55671 times)
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June 13, 2013, 12:12:50 AM
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tldr anyone please?

Swedish women are really, really hot. But beer is pretty expensive in the country, so it's not paradise.  Oh and something about KNC being pretty legit.   Smiley

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June 13, 2013, 12:14:49 AM
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Great information - thanks for doing this!
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June 13, 2013, 12:19:12 AM
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Thanks for the great report.. where are the photos?
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June 13, 2013, 12:22:17 AM
Last edit: June 13, 2013, 01:52:31 AM by Bitcoinorama
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So you're saying it's more-or-less OK to throw money at these people ?

I don't think it's wise to throw money at anyone. I've said that numerous times.

This point in time in the 'ASIC race' you're speculating (gambling) on informed odds.

This is what it is, a shit-hot integrated circuit design team, pairing up with two well versed IT Architects with real business experience.

They are actively minimising risk wherever possible. More tomorrow. They know what's at stake.

Developing 28nm ASICs has NRE in the millions, hence the pre-ordering. Avalon's 110nm tech would have been in the hundreds of thousands. If KnC manage this, the bar will have been raised, the gauntlet thrown down, and only professional firms of engineers need apply.  No more mickey mouse shenanigans. There will be no more uni dropouts capable of hustling competitively. KnC have a lot of respect for Yifu and want him to remain a player. I had my collar pulled on my $0.5-$2 per ASIC claims. I took that from a 2005 book (ASIC Basics), app that def does not apply to 28nm...

I have no crystal ball, but they are not wantonly out to thieve your funds, they do have the ability, there is 100% agreement from all attendees on this.

Hopefully if you're genuinely considering this, you have done/will continue to do your own research / perform due diligence, and understand what's at stake for you, and where you can minimise your risks (Credit Card for security when purchasing, not for getting into debt).

I'm not advising anyone does anything but uses common sense. You know your own risk tolerance. I've been as transparant as possible here.

People saying, too long to read, cool, can't please anyone. I know the shit i'd be on the receiving end of if I was too brief.

But for TL;DR lazy bastards, to sum it up; the guy doing the designing, Marcus, in a nut shell is a young version of James Bond's 'Q', maybe even the current rendition, whichever's cooler. If you don't have clue what i'm alluding to; GIYF! It won't cost you a quater...Cool

I did my best. Wink

Pics tomo, some of them. Daggeteo needs to clear a couple due to account info present. I'm hoping other guys took more pics than me, as I focused on recording the grilling I was giving them.
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BTW for those stating ORSoC failed with their Open RISC project, they did not. They've failed to raise sufficient funding for that project to design an open-source CPU, currently. The monies have gone no where. The amounts the investors involved have contributed thus far are openly available on the open cores site. We were shown this. Peeps can have their cash back at any-point, though Paypal takes their 5% cut, even on donations! Marcus himself has donated €3,000 (or was it $?!) from his own pocket. The rest vary. Predominantly $25. If they could get *I think* it was $25 off quarter of their Opencores membership there will be a world first Opensource CPU.

Feel free to donate to ORSoC's Opencores OpenRISC project in three months once you get hold of your miners if you believe in them by then.

http://opencores.org/donation

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June 13, 2013, 12:32:19 AM
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Thank you

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June 13, 2013, 12:48:31 AM
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Since nonone else asked, Did you get to meet Lisbeth?   Grin
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June 13, 2013, 12:56:14 AM
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Since nonone else asked, Did you get to meet Lisbeth?   Grin

No, but I kid you not, I met a Mexican girl on her way from Stockholm to the 'sleepy town of Uppsala' on her way to pay homage!

Another famous Swede you may, or may not know about, and like Satoshi Yakamoto, no one knows for sure if it's one or many behind the mask...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnXMx__wlJU

(this is kind of what Marcus is about to put Mars through)

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June 13, 2013, 01:18:53 AM
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Since nonone else asked, Did you get to meet Lisbeth?   Grin

No, but I kid you not, I met a Mexican girl on her way from Stockholm to the 'sleepy town of Uppsala' on her way to pay homage!

Another famous Swede you may, or may not know about, and like Satoshi Yakamoto, no one knows for sure if it's one or many behind the mask...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnXMx__wlJU

(this is kind of what Marcus is about to put Mars through)

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June 13, 2013, 01:44:58 AM
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Since nonone else asked, Did you get to meet Lisbeth?   Grin

No, but I kid you not, I met a Mexican girl on her way from Stockholm to the 'sleepy town of Uppsala' on her way to pay homage!

Another famous Swede you may, or may not know about, and like Satoshi Yakamoto, no one knows for sure if it's one or many behind the mask...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnXMx__wlJU

(this is kind of what Marcus is about to put Mars through)

I had done some crazy shit when i used to ride, but this is Insane. Don't try this at home

Enjoy...!

http://youtu.be/Hk3KwCfO5x8

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June 13, 2013, 01:47:15 AM
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Ok, cool, we look forward to some of your photos, a picture is worth a thousand words they say ...thanks
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June 13, 2013, 02:17:28 AM
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Ok, cool, we look forward to some of your photos, a picture is worth a thousand words they say ...thanks

Thank f**k I didn't take too may photos, or my current word count wouldn't translate to the equivalent value in pictures. Tongue

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June 13, 2013, 04:18:44 AM
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Very thank you

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June 13, 2013, 04:29:15 AM
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Wow so they just picked the chip manufacturer today?

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June 13, 2013, 04:35:36 AM
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Thank you very much for taking the time to do this.
Excellent info.

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June 13, 2013, 06:56:46 AM
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Thanks for the info. I have high hopes these guys set a new trend for professional and transparent ASIC miner production.


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i think, it is the first really proffesional and experienced eletronic company which is only entering the bitcoin market very well supported by KNC...
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June 13, 2013, 07:36:33 AM
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Bro as I already said I really do appreciate your work, and I'm more than impressed by what I'm reading especially when you describe Marcus' way of working Tongue
Till now I found this two info the most informative among all:


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.... In the interim as the final ASIC design is already being bid over by the chip manufactures to tender the job by September.



The chip manufacturer I believe is chosen today.  ...


And when I read this:


Yes the chip is going from FPGA to ASIC in production immediately, After the first prototype is made they are out the door with very little margin for error. Balls are swinging low.


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June 13, 2013, 07:43:56 AM
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You got yourself a place in the Kncminer website : )
https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-19
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June 13, 2013, 07:48:26 AM
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I vote for express delivery with ghost rider  Grin

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June 13, 2013, 07:48:53 AM
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I vote for express delivery with ghost rider  Grin


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June 13, 2013, 08:07:29 AM
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Thanx much for your report!
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