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October 28, 2017, 09:10:27 PM
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I don't know much about stocks but i know that in stocks if you think certain stocks will fall, you can short them and make money.  However with bitcoin/altcoin, can you short or is that not possible?  Also isn't it true shorting is very dangerous because you can lose a lot more shorting than investing in bitcoin/altcoin?


I know when prices drop, that is when you want to buy because you want to buy low and sell high.  So what would be the strategy if bitcoin/altcoin stays the same or keeps dropping etc?  Thus its all red and stays that way?  Of course you could buy... then wait till it goes back up and sell to make profit.  But you don't know how long that would that or it could possibly not and keep going down etc.  I understand that if you want to daytrade, well you buy it at certain price then sell at certain price to lock in profit.  Thus if prices go higher and you bought earlier, you will make profit if you sell.  But besides buying the coin at low prices, you aren't making any money at the moment. 


So what do daytraders do then?  Thus daytraders are on the computer looking at the markets all the time etc.  So if everything keeps going down, how do they make money?  If prices keep dropping for a long time, then there is no money to be made right?  Or is there?  Because what do daytraders do if the market prices keep going down etc?  Sure you can buy a lot of coins at cheap prices but you don't know how long it would take to go back up etc. 
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October 28, 2017, 10:06:50 PM
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Yes, I will continue to make money from Bitcoin, Altcoin if the price continues to fall, this does not affect much of my work.
But if in trading, you will play margin, this is very good but also very risky when you play uncontrollably
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October 29, 2017, 05:37:12 AM
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When all the prices are falling,you act like a "bear". Grin
You sell all the cryptos that you have,wait for a while and buy them,when the prices are lower.The difference between the prices is your proft.
That`s how traders make profit ,when the markets are going down.Shorting is the other way,but you already know about it.  

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October 29, 2017, 06:11:40 AM
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Here I can understand well that how the mind get disappointed when the price of the coins( bitcoin or altcoins ) get down rapidly .
Here we can handle every situation easily but we need a perfect timing and perfect idea to make small prediction .
Just take and example that the price of the bitcoin is about $4000/btc , and you have just bought at the same price but after you bought the price getting down then in that case what you will do ? , Ofcourse you will needed to have money in your hand and buy bitcoin again at low price to make the whole buy bitcoin at Average price .
If you don't have money in your hand then you will needed to do trade with your btc and make the amount more and wait until the price again get back up .
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October 29, 2017, 06:17:47 AM
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when bitcoin price falls i have the same strategy as always:
if i can predict the fall before it happens, i will sell my trading funds and wait until the bottom is reached and buy back with profit.
if i can not predict it and it was already too late, i wait it out and then buy bitcoin at the bottom with the fiat funds that i invest in bitcoin every couple of weeks.
in short bitcoin falling means buying opportunity for me.

if altcoins drop i am rarely there to see them drop because i only invest in altcoins that are rising not those that have risen already or are struggling to keep what price they already have up! and that means i rarely see the drops. i also make sure to dump them just as fast and that means i am always out before the market wide dump begins.

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October 29, 2017, 06:21:41 AM
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Hence the cryptocurrency price is volatile, i would not sell if price keeps falling. I would just like to hold for longer time and buy more when the price gets down.
It is not expert traders strategy to sell immediately when you see price getting down, patience is essentialy required at such moments.
You would have a great opportunity to buy more coins at cheap, profits are for sure in this terminology if you are a long term trader.

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October 29, 2017, 06:28:29 AM
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If the fall is around 10 - 20% i usually cut my losses. But if the loss is approaching say 30 - 50%, i do not sell instead i found a way to buy more even if i don't have money i make sure i get raised! I believe my consistency should pay off very soon

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If the fall is around 10 - 20% i usually cut my losses. But if the loss is approaching say 30 - 50%, i do not sell instead i found a way to buy more even if i don't have money i make sure i get raised! I believe my consistency should pay off very soon
Yeah , this is a good way to hold your money for the future to make the loss into profit Because here in that case we became disable to do anything .
Here perosnally I make buy more bitcoin or altcoins after going down into the price because the main reason behind this is that , it is the surity that the coin's price will rise surely once in the future soon and with small increase in the price will results into profit definitely .
So here our simple stretagy works better in such cases.
And here I would like to teach every newbie in this trading field that they never sell thier coin after getting loss due to down in the price because that will only results into loss , so why not we should wait to make profit.

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October 29, 2017, 08:07:25 AM
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I don't know much about stocks but i know that in stocks if you think certain stocks will fall, you can short them and make money.  However with bitcoin/altcoin, can you short or is that not possible?  Also isn't it true shorting is very dangerous because you can lose a lot more shorting than investing in bitcoin/altcoin?

You can short, yes. Bitmex is probably the most liquid place to short futures contracts. They also offer a perpetual swap contract (no expiration date) and several altcoins. And they have very high leverage.

But yes, it's very risky to short BTC and even more so to short altcoins. If you're going to do it, I would use low leverage, like 1-3x, and be resolute about sticking to your system and taking losses when necessary.

We are still obviously in a bull market, so I'm more interested in dips as buying opportunities, not shorting opportunities.

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October 29, 2017, 08:42:02 AM
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in a bear market when prices are falling they usually suggest selling of what you are holding and staying out until the prices reach the bottom. however you can use margin trading to make profit when price is falling down.
I am not an expert in this because I don't like this strategy of trading because of its associated risks and also because exchanges that I use for trading altcoins do not have this option. so I go the traditional way of dumping my altcoins and buying them back whenever there I a pump coming.

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October 29, 2017, 09:41:51 AM
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Making money while bitcoin or altcoin keeps falling is not a big issue, you just need to be actively trading them by short selling and day trading if you are really fit for it, because it's not easy as you thinks. It's possible for you to make money while bitcoin or altcoin is falling and the best strategy i use for that is short selling it with positive averaging while the coin is downtrending and falling with strong volumes, which indicates there is no demand and all the trader's are interested in shorting it.

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October 29, 2017, 09:43:17 AM
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With the current situation in the altcoin market, mostly day traders have a chance at making any decent amount of profit because of the constant rises and dips. Possessing knowledge about upcoming impactful events could be a reasonable way of assessing the price margin and flipping at the right price could land in the green profit zone.
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October 29, 2017, 09:48:00 AM
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You can still make money while bitcoin/altcoin prices are falling by hedging your portfolio.

If you know the price of your coins will go down in the near future, sell them immediately. This way, you will be able to buy more of it once the price goes down. This move is actually quite risky, but if pulled off correctly, you'll have more of whatever your original coin amount was. Good luck!

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October 29, 2017, 11:05:32 AM
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Convert everything to USDT and buy back at (what you think is) the lowest point Wink. If you time it right, then you can have the same currencies with more coins.
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October 29, 2017, 07:25:43 PM
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I don't know much about stocks but i know that in stocks if you think certain stocks will fall, you can short them and make money.  However with bitcoin/altcoin, can you short or is that not possible?  Also isn't it true shorting is very dangerous because you can lose a lot more shorting than investing in bitcoin/altcoin?


I know when prices drop, that is when you want to buy because you want to buy low and sell high.  So what would be the strategy if bitcoin/altcoin stays the same or keeps dropping etc?  Thus its all red and stays that way?  Of course you could buy... then wait till it goes back up and sell to make profit.  But you don't know how long that would that or it could possibly not and keep going down etc.  I understand that if you want to daytrade, well you buy it at certain price then sell at certain price to lock in profit.  Thus if prices go higher and you bought earlier, you will make profit if you sell.  But besides buying the coin at low prices, you aren't making any money at the moment. 


So what do daytraders do then?  Thus daytraders are on the computer looking at the markets all the time etc.  So if everything keeps going down, how do they make money?  If prices keep dropping for a long time, then there is no money to be made right?  Or is there?  Because what do daytraders do if the market prices keep going down etc?  Sure you can buy a lot of coins at cheap prices but you don't know how long it would take to go back up etc. 
I think you can offset some of the loss for unrecoverable investments by waiting until prices fall to the floor and accumulate money to buy more btc or altcoins and wait. When the price increases you can sell to offset the previous loss, if you are lucky, you can also  have profits but it is important to choose the correct currency which can recover.

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October 29, 2017, 07:44:13 PM
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The prices of a trading assets like bitcoin and altcoins cannot continue going down and the day traders make little profits from the little corrections along the lines. When I was day trading in forex trading, I do make my money from following Fibonacci level using 30 minutes chart. When price go up there were times when traders take profits several times and most of those times scapers make their money by buy low and sell high. If price is going down scapers will buy low and if there are many that buying lower than, we would have price corrections and scapers will make their money by buy low and sell high.
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I don't know much about stocks but i know that in stocks if you think certain stocks will fall, you can short them and make money.  However with bitcoin/altcoin, can you short or is that not possible?  Also isn't it true shorting is very dangerous because you can lose a lot more shorting than investing in bitcoin/altcoin?


I know when prices drop, that is when you want to buy because you want to buy low and sell high.  So what would be the strategy if bitcoin/altcoin stays the same or keeps dropping etc?  Thus its all red and stays that way?  Of course you could buy... then wait till it goes back up and sell to make profit.  But you don't know how long that would that or it could possibly not and keep going down etc.  I understand that if you want to daytrade, well you buy it at certain price then sell at certain price to lock in profit.  Thus if prices go higher and you bought earlier, you will make profit if you sell.  But besides buying the coin at low prices, you aren't making any money at the moment. 


So what do daytraders do then?  Thus daytraders are on the computer looking at the markets all the time etc.  So if everything keeps going down, how do they make money?  If prices keep dropping for a long time, then there is no money to be made right?  Or is there?  Because what do daytraders do if the market prices keep going down etc?  Sure you can buy a lot of coins at cheap prices but you don't know how long it would take to go back up etc. 

In a situation when price keeps dropping when you buy, its obvious that is a loss position and there is nothing you can do about it because you know the risk of what you are entering into to have put money into it. But the way you react is what you can do something about which is either cutting your losses and take more risk which might turn out to be the best one. In the crypto trading, we are used to increase in price and one week of wait is always too week for us. But when you can wait, then it could eventually paid off.
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There are severals ways to cut your loss once that the btc/alt price is falling, but i dont see it as a bad thing, you should know that btc/alt price is adjusted to the USD price, and you will always have the same amount of money. If the altcoin price goes up, then your btc price will increase, but if the price of BTC goes up, then it will decrease, and this is how it works. All the altcoins are going down in btc/alt price because bitcoin is going up so fast, and altcoins are doing the opposite.


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If you've already been to cryptocurrency for so long you will already know the answer , we already know that bitcoin/altcoin price is volatile and it can change in every moment , If you feel like the price is falling down and you are lost  then Don't sell just HOLD your coin , and when the price was rising and you already have a good profit then sell , keep in mind that timing , patience and self discipline is needed for you to make money on trading .
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When the price of altcoins and bitcoin dropping then mostly peoples try to keep outside because they now this is going to rise again so better keep position for better profit very less peoples involve in this and try to sell and buy because its very risky and can give some serious damage which is some time not recoverable for some peoples
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When the price keep falling just one thing that we can do for earn profit and money, "buy them" and hold. but keep in mind to prefer coins whose popularity is quite high. Usually this kind of this coin not fall for so long.
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This is rather complex to address. But in falling prices and being rather inexperienced i try to hold as much as i can so i don´t end up being the guy that gives the good traders all the money. So what i try to do is i look at my stash of tradable bags and choose one or two coins at a time and try to sell and rebuy lower. that way i lower the price per coin of that particular bag so the recovery will eventually come sooner.

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In crypto trading we need to keep calm and control our emotions to earn even if such disaster happens.
It is quite simple that when i get to know that price is going to fall rapidly I sell my coins at that moment and wait for the perfect time to buy it again at low price, this is what we can do when the price is falling down continuously.
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Bitcoin is one currency and if the value of bitcoin is falling there are so many alternatives like many altcoins are traded in market as we know that comparatively its value is less than bitcoin but still making good amount of money.

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In crypto trading we need to keep calm and control our emotions to earn even if such disaster happens.
It is quite simple that when i get to know that price is going to fall rapidly I sell my coins at that moment and wait for the perfect time to buy it again at low price, this is what we can do when the price is falling down continuously.



                         At least it is the best way to do at the moment the price begins to drop, and most importantly keep your balls as hard as you can and control your emotion not to interfere in terms of bad situation happens, but in some instances there are also cases that you cannot really predict what's going to happen next, sometimes it will just fall for a short time and then it will be skyrocketing immediately.


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When the price keep falling just one thing that we can do for earn profit and money, "buy them" and hold. but keep in mind to prefer coins whose popularity is quite high. Usually this kind of this coin not fall for so long.
but I think that if the price of bitcoin is falling then we can only do one thing is to stay, I think we should wait for some time and when we realize that now the price can get a support and the price can again start increasing then we should try to buy bitcoin, because no one know about the depth of bitcoin that at what level it is going to fall.

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When the price keep falling just one thing that we can do for earn profit and money, "buy them" and hold. but keep in mind to prefer coins whose popularity is quite high. Usually this kind of this coin not fall for so long.
but I think that if the price of bitcoin is falling then we can only do one thing is to stay, I think we should wait for some time and when we realize that now the price can get a support and the price can again start increasing then we should try to buy bitcoin, because no one know about the depth of bitcoin that at what level it is going to fall.
holding is the best way to earn or maybe buying it anh hold for a long term .because falling down of price is not permanent falling down of price is an opportunity to earn in the next rising of its price .maybe somebody has panic on this situation but in my openion it is almost the  same thing happend every now and then in the crypto field it is alway up and  down movement and it is not an end falling of price is the opportunity to gain.
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I don't know much about stocks but i know that in stocks if you think certain stocks will fall, you can short them and make money.  However with bitcoin/altcoin, can you short or is that not possible?  Also isn't it true shorting is very dangerous because you can lose a lot more shorting than investing in bitcoin/altcoin?


I know when prices drop, that is when you want to buy because you want to buy low and sell high.  So what would be the strategy if bitcoin/altcoin stays the same or keeps dropping etc?  Thus its all red and stays that way?  Of course you could buy... then wait till it goes back up and sell to make profit.  But you don't know how long that would that or it could possibly not and keep going down etc.  I understand that if you want to daytrade, well you buy it at certain price then sell at certain price to lock in profit.  Thus if prices go higher and you bought earlier, you will make profit if you sell.  But besides buying the coin at low prices, you aren't making any money at the moment. 


So what do daytraders do then?  Thus daytraders are on the computer looking at the markets all the time etc.  So if everything keeps going down, how do they make money?  If prices keep dropping for a long time, then there is no money to be made right?  Or is there?  Because what do daytraders do if the market prices keep going down etc?  Sure you can buy a lot of coins at cheap prices but you don't know how long it would take to go back up etc. 

Well what you can do is to diversify whatever funds you have so you have multiple sources of income.

In cases whereby prices keep falling, the only certain way to earn even just for a little is through advertising. Although yes, its value will also not be much because of the weak prices. But 1 is always better than nothing at all especially in this business.

Another way to earn, albeit futuristic, is to hold whatever Bitcoin you have. Anticipate and be patient with the process. Sooner or later the prices will soar high again thereby recovering your losses.
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When prices are falling it is often best to try and sell your coins in anticipation of further price falls and then buy back more coins than you originally had at a lower price. This is of course only if you assume that the price will increase in the future.

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You can't earn at that time but you can earn next time, it is when the price of bitcoin or alts is falling. You can have your best opportunity to buy some good and potential coins when it's falling that will be the right time to buy. Then sell it when it is already at high price.
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When the price keep falling just one thing that we can do for earn profit and money, "buy them" and hold. but keep in mind to prefer coins whose popularity is quite high. Usually this kind of this coin not fall for so long.

As per my experience, it never happens if  both Bitcoins and Altcoins prices crashes at the same time. If this happen it means there is something seriously wrong on crytocucrrecny. Normally if the bitcoins crashes, Altcoin prices rises and when bitcoin rises, all the altcoins prices crashed.
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If the fall is around 10 - 20% i usually cut my losses. But if the loss is approaching say 30 - 50%, i do not sell instead i found a way to buy more even if i don't have money i make sure i get raised! I believe my consistency should pay off very soon
The strategy you have mentioned of staying consistent really works in case of bitcoin but I won’t recommend it for altcoins. There are many cases of altcoins which dumped for few weeks and then never reached their previous values.

If an altcoin if dropping in value more than 30%, it is an indicator of getting rid of that coin as soon as possible rather than buying more of it.
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If the fall is around 10 - 20% i usually cut my losses. But if the loss is approaching say 30 - 50%, i do not sell instead i found a way to buy more even if i don't have money i make sure i get raised! I believe my consistency should pay off very soon
The strategy you have mentioned of staying consistent really works in case of bitcoin but I won’t recommend it for altcoins. There are many cases of altcoins which dumped for few weeks and then never reached their previous values.

If an altcoin if dropping in value more than 30%, it is an indicator of getting rid of that coin as soon as possible rather than buying more of it.
Yea you are right this happen to many times I buy coins and buy after some fall but they never rise again its very risky to have chance with altcoins if you want then try with some good and reputable coins which have worth otherwise most chances we have to lost our money with no recovery option available
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When the price is falling i take this opportunity to buy because it will pump up again we just need a patience and wait for the right time to sell.
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In day trading you need to spend your time in front of computer as you need to monitor the movement of the market and close the transaction within the day before market ends. As such, since bitcoin is not regulated, i dont think day trading is applicable here because we can trade anytime. We just need to face risk if we will buy during dumps and wait for the time when price pump again.
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If you believe much on the saying “everything that goes up will go down” then your right. But in bitcoin “when it goes down it will soon go up” that should be the thinking of one investors or traders. Not in all cryptocurrency but it only presence in bitcoin as it is the main coin from the beginning.

Don’t sell when it’s falling but rather on the peak price. Buy when the price is in dip for any dollars you are ready to loss. Because risk is available to any investments and bitcoin is no exception. It’s repeating process and experience will make you be an expert to it.
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I don't know much about stocks but i know that in stocks if you think certain stocks will fall, you can short them and make money.  However with bitcoin/altcoin, can you short or is that not possible?  Also isn't it true shorting is very dangerous because you can lose a lot more shorting than investing in bitcoin/altcoin?


I know when prices drop, that is when you want to buy because you want to buy low and sell high.  So what would be the strategy if bitcoin/altcoin stays the same or keeps dropping etc?  Thus its all red and stays that way?  Of course you could buy... then wait till it goes back up and sell to make profit.  But you don't know how long that would that or it could possibly not and keep going down etc.  I understand that if you want to daytrade, well you buy it at certain price then sell at certain price to lock in profit.  Thus if prices go higher and you bought earlier, you will make profit if you sell.  But besides buying the coin at low prices, you aren't making any money at the moment. 


So what do daytraders do then?  Thus daytraders are on the computer looking at the markets all the time etc.  So if everything keeps going down, how do they make money?  If prices keep dropping for a long time, then there is no money to be made right?  Or is there?  Because what do daytraders do if the market prices keep going down etc?  Sure you can buy a lot of coins at cheap prices but you don't know how long it would take to go back up etc. 

Depend the way I choose, different way not the same strategy. If trade I should cut loss and replace it become currency. But if investment I'll keep hold and try buy again, that's way money management is really needed here. Most people will not agree with I do, but until now is works for me. Patience is the key and never lost faith with your skill. Good luck to you.

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If i have a lot of money, i will just grab the opportunity to buy all alt-coins at low price, Because whatever the status of the coin, there are still possible to goes up, This is already proven in the previous days, And im willing to invest for it as long my money could cater all of my desired coins. Seems risky but if you don't fight the risk then no more chance to earn high profit,  Smiley
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Yes, I will continue to make money from Bitcoin, Altcoin if the price continues to fall, this does not affect much of my work.
But if in trading, you will play margin, this is very good but also very risky when you play uncontrollably


For me, I will continue to make money from my job, if the bitcoin /altcoin are already falling.. depends the value of coins. If it is became low then some of the days becames high. But still I'm on making money from bitcoin and altcoin day by days.
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Well usually I don't Cheesy I just hold and wait for the coins to recover. I try to buy in at good times tho.
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This is the normal process, the rise and fall of the price. It's important not to panic when the price falls and not to sell immediately. Usually it's good to have some long term strategy because bitcoin is still the best investment long term and it's wise to buy coins as much as you can when the price drops because after that in a certain period of time it will recover and thus you will earn money. This is the main trading rule to buy low and sell high so you should look at price drop as an opportunity.

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Yes, I will continue to make money from Bitcoin, Altcoin if the price continues to fall, this does not affect much of my work.
But if in trading, you will play margin, this is very good but also very risky when you play uncontrollably
If your earning method is signature campaign there is also a big effect for your earning, if bitcoin value continue to falling you will recieved small amount of cash if you converted it. All method will be affected by decreasing of bitcoin value even altcoin but we can take this advantage to buy more coins and keep it or hold it for long time and i am sure that when price are start to increase your coin start to grow its value.
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This is the normal process, the rise and fall of the price. It's important not to panic when the price falls and not to sell immediately. Usually it's good to have some long term strategy because bitcoin is still the best investment long term and it's wise to buy coins as much as you can when the price drops because after that in a certain period of time it will recover and thus you will earn money. This is the main trading rule to buy low and sell high so you should look at price drop as an opportunity.
Well you are right it is a very normal process, but when someone who feels panicked they will not care to sell their coins immediately, they think to bear a little bit of a loss than to get big losses, they tend to think not to back up, so they do the panic selling

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Here I can understand well that how the mind get disappointed when the price of the coins( bitcoin or altcoins ) get down rapidly .
Here we can handle every situation easily but we need a perfect timing and perfect idea to make small prediction .
Just take and example that the price of the bitcoin is about $4000/btc , and you have just bought at the same price but after you bought the price getting down then in that case what you will do ? , Ofcourse you will needed to have money in your hand and buy bitcoin again at low price to make the whole buy bitcoin at Average price .
If you don't have money in your hand then you will needed to do trade with your btc and make the amount more and wait until the price again get back up .
I will make money in this signature campaign, because if the price of bitcoin falls my investment will give me lose, no profit or very little profit, but in this forum I am making money and I will continue earning money from this forum. it is free to join and need non-investment to make money.

This forum just needs time and I have full time for this site. I don’t need to be panic about the earnings. This forum has given me the opportunity to make money as much as I want.
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Buy and HODL as everyone does. If bitcoin and altcoin is falling and if it goes the dip of 3000$ then it is the biggest opportunity for anyone to buy as many coins they want because it will be back to where is stop at 6300$ or more. This is why some uses bad news and black propaganda to achieve they’re goal of decreasing the market price for this reason.

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This is the normal process, the rise and fall of the price. It's important not to panic when the price falls and not to sell immediately. Usually it's good to have some long term strategy because bitcoin is still the best investment long term and it's wise to buy coins as much as you can when the price drops because after that in a certain period of time it will recover and thus you will earn money. This is the main trading rule to buy low and sell high so you should look at price drop as an opportunity.
Well you are right it is a very normal process, but when someone who feels panicked they will not care to sell their coins immediately, they think to bear a little bit of a loss than to get big losses, they tend to think not to back up, so they do the panic selling
Panic selling is dangerous, it really eats up all your benefits and profits coming in your results. Whenever you are trading, you have to adjust with the fact, and better is to swallow this ASAP that there must be bad times coming along your way.

You will not be going to get on a path that doesn’t involve any risk factor and much more than that. So don’t be panic and work wisely.
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I don't know much about stocks but i know that in stocks if you think certain stocks will fall, you can short them and make money.  However with bitcoin/altcoin, can you short or is that not possible?  Also isn't it true shorting is very dangerous because you can lose a lot more shorting than investing in bitcoin/altcoin?

Shorting is possible but on certain pairs only that are available in the margin trading section of Poloniex. Don't know much about other exchanges whether they allow shorting or not. I have always witnessed that both (bitcoins and altcoins) never fall altogether, but it goes like either Bitcoin or alts.


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I know when prices drop, that is when you want to buy because you want to buy low and sell high.  So what would be the strategy if bitcoin/altcoin stays the same or keeps dropping etc?  Thus its all red and stays that way?  Of course you could buy... then wait till it goes back up and sell to make profit.  But you don't know how long that would that or it could possibly not and keep going down etc.  I understand that if you want to daytrade, well you buy it at certain price then sell at certain price to lock in profit.  Thus if prices go higher and you bought earlier, you will make profit if you sell.  But besides buying the coin at low prices, you aren't making any money at the moment. 

My strategy never allows me to get into altcoins unless Bitcoin's rally stops somewhere. You will never see any altcoins go up, you know why?
Because even if they are depreciating in terms of Bitcoin value, they are still appreciating or remain stable in fiat values.
My tip: Never trade (especially day-trade) when market of Bitcoin is booming because there are just random pumps that take place in altcoins and others just get dumped.


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So what do daytraders do then?  Thus daytraders are on the computer looking at the markets all the time etc.  So if everything keeps going down, how do they make money?  If prices keep dropping for a long time, then there is no money to be made right?  Or is there?  Because what do daytraders do if the market prices keep going down etc?  Sure you can buy a lot of coins at cheap prices but you don't know how long it would take to go back up etc. 

I never daytrade, but I believe that doing it at such times could lead to some exceptional losses and you should never follow any tips and/or bot signals during this period as I have also seen some very undervalued coins falling back to worst for no reasons but just due to bitcoin rally. The simple fact, when Bitcoin goes stable or starts correcting towards down, alts start to catch up the momentum and vice versa.
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November 02, 2017, 10:33:43 AM
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This is the normal process, the rise and fall of the price. It's important not to panic when the price falls and not to sell immediately. Usually it's good to have some long term strategy because bitcoin is still the best investment long term and it's wise to buy coins as much as you can when the price drops because after that in a certain period of time it will recover and thus you will earn money. This is the main trading rule to buy low and sell high so you should look at price drop as an opportunity.
Well you are right it is a very normal process, but when someone who feels panicked they will not care to sell their coins immediately, they think to bear a little bit of a loss than to get big losses, they tend to think not to back up, so they do the panic selling
The irony of panic selling is no doubt to save yourself not from getting more loss. The thing is we never know what will happen in the coming days. In addition to this, things don’t remain the same all the time. You should always hope for the best and you need to prepare yourself for the worst. This is the only thing which can help you in making wise decisions at tough time. Remain vigilant all the time.
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keep calm and don't panic.. patiencely, when the prices keep falling, that's the best time you can buy some bitcoin.. don't worry about the prices, bitcoin is fluctuation, when the prices are falling of course the prices will be rising up again.. maybe you just need time for waiting the prices up..
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Buy and HODL as everyone does. If bitcoin and altcoin is falling and if it goes the dip of 3000$ then it is the biggest opportunity for anyone to buy as many coins they want because it will be back to where is stop at 6300$ or more. This is why some uses bad news and black propaganda to achieve they’re goal of decreasing the market price for this reason.
Even though I know $3000 does not sound something possible at this stage, but I have always dreamed and wish that maybe one day some panic sellers can just please give me their coins Grin The thing is that support has grown stronger and hardly are we going to see anything that would cause a huge panic selling except something pretty huge that would be an attack on bitcoin really and truly happens.

After all, that does not mean we would still not have some people at some point get it when it starts dropping and bring back the value up.
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So what do daytraders do then?  Thus daytraders are on the computer looking at the markets all the time etc.  So if everything keeps going down, how do they make money?  If prices keep dropping for a long time, then there is no money to be made right?  Or is there?  Because what do daytraders do if the market prices keep going down etc?  Sure you can buy a lot of coins at cheap prices but you don't know how long it would take to go back up etc. 
Traders have different approach in every situation, they may call themselves a daytrader but in cases like whats happening today when Bitcoin is on top of everyone, some would stay at the safe side by converting their alts to BTC and wait till fork is clear. In my case I converted 60% to BTC while the remaining 40% stays in alts.
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When all the prices are falling,you act like a "bear". Grin
You sell all the cryptos that you have,wait for a while and buy them,when the prices are lower.The difference between the prices is your proft.
That`s how traders make profit ,when the markets are going down.Shorting is the other way,but you already know about it.  
Each Condition must have a certain way. Every trader would want to make a profit. We can not peg whether we can make a profit or not when the price falls. sometimes we have to look at various aspects in order to determine whether we can benefit or not in trading. Buying as much coin as possible when the price is down is not a solution because we can not predict and convince whether the price can increase again or not.
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Keep Stop loss - Target and stop when starting a trade: For each trade, we must set a clear target level for taking profit and more importantly, a stop-loss level for cutting losses. A Stop-loss is setting the level of loss where the trade will get closed.
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It would have been so fine it bitcoin is not the only source of ones income in such instance, and does it mean the consistent dump will not get better by pump overtime, of course that will not happen, so, I would have just suggested one should buy the coin during the consistent dump and ignore it or rather face other business until a good time of pump.
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I really know that BTC  never fallen again due limited supply of 21. But it badly impact to Alts. Thats sad truth.

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I don't know much about stocks but i know that in stocks if you think certain stocks will fall, you can short them and make money.  However with bitcoin/altcoin, can you short or is that not possible?  Also isn't it true shorting is very dangerous because you can lose a lot more shorting than investing in bitcoin/altcoin?


I know when prices drop, that is when you want to buy because you want to buy low and sell high.  So what would be the strategy if bitcoin/altcoin stays the same or keeps dropping etc?  Thus its all red and stays that way?  Of course you could buy... then wait till it goes back up and sell to make profit.  But you don't know how long that would that or it could possibly not and keep going down etc.  I understand that if you want to daytrade, well you buy it at certain price then sell at certain price to lock in profit.  Thus if prices go higher and you bought earlier, you will make profit if you sell.  But besides buying the coin at low prices, you aren't making any money at the moment. 


So what do daytraders do then?  Thus daytraders are on the computer looking at the markets all the time etc.  So if everything keeps going down, how do they make money?  If prices keep dropping for a long time, then there is no money to be made right?  Or is there?  Because what do daytraders do if the market prices keep going down etc?  Sure you can buy a lot of coins at cheap prices but you don't know how long it would take to go back up etc. 
Here we can understand well that how much the problem we are facing in the cryptocurrency trading with the big flcutuations in the price of the coins to get dump/pump with high degree .
Here only those people can handle the situation who has money in Thier pocket .
Here I means to say that buy coins in small small amounts after every dump , Because to buy with down and down price , it is better to remain the average of the price of the coins ( but really it needed much money to handle the situation ) .
Second option is to wait until the market became stable , and find the better chance .
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If the btc or altcoin price drops do affect you. I think you should give up this investment and start with another investment. . However, quit is not selling all the  number of btc or altcoins you have , that is waiting until the price goes up. starting a new investment when the price drops you will certainly be profitable.

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keep calm and don't panic.. patiencely, when the prices keep falling, that's the best time you can buy some bitcoin.. don't worry about the prices, bitcoin is fluctuation, when the prices are falling of course the prices will be rising up again.. maybe you just need time for waiting the prices up..
I also favor your choice. If the prices are falling to some dangerous extent then it is not the right time to sell all your Bitcoins and convert them into the physical money or fiats. The best you can do in such a situation is that you must focus on buying more and more of the Bitcoin.

In the present you will feel some sort of anxiety and depression regarding your own decisions but I promise you that it would be a great help in the end this is because of the fact that they the prices keep on a fluctuating and obviously if there is downfall then increment is also a possible thing.

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I really know that BTC  never fallen again due limited supply of 21. But it badly impact to Alts. Thats sad truth.

Agree.. Bitcoin increases makes altcoin holders sold and invest in bitcoin instead.. Then a free money in forking makes more damage to altcoin as more need to save bitcoin to have equivalent amount of Bitcoin2x or Segwit2x.. This altcoin even I have no intention to support it but I don’t know how to manage anything or I might need to go with the flow with most members of the bitcoin community..

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keep calm and don't panic.. patiencely, when the prices keep falling, that's the best time you can buy some bitcoin.. don't worry about the prices, bitcoin is fluctuation, when the prices are falling of course the prices will be rising up again.. maybe you just need time for waiting the prices up..
I really doubt if anyone can ever make the mistake of panic selling except maybe for newbie in the game though.
Almost everyone have been able to learn from past experience that it is much better to HODL and even buy more at dips.

So, if any whale is dumping and trying to create FUD and then expect people to dump, then the whale should better be counting his or her losses cause people will be ready to start buying as much as possible.

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Do not sell your position, just hold it and wait until prices bounce back. Volatility of price place high risk/reward. Proper timing and a bit of luck I guess. I too cut-loss sometimes between 10-15% but that rarely happens. I always trust my gut that soon there will be an uptrend and if it happens, I exit. Trading is not for the emotional and faint-hearted, it can break your will and test your patience.
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I don't know much about stocks but i know that in stocks if you think certain stocks will fall, you can short them and make money.  However with bitcoin/altcoin, can you short or is that not possible?  Also isn't it true shorting is very dangerous because you can lose a lot more shorting than investing in bitcoin/altcoin?


I know when prices drop, that is when you want to buy because you want to buy low and sell high.  So what would be the strategy if bitcoin/altcoin stays the same or keeps dropping etc?  Thus its all red and stays that way?  Of course you could buy... then wait till it goes back up and sell to make profit.  But you don't know how long that would that or it could possibly not and keep going down etc.  I understand that if you want to daytrade, well you buy it at certain price then sell at certain price to lock in profit.  Thus if prices go higher and you bought earlier, you will make profit if you sell.  But besides buying the coin at low prices, you aren't making any money at the moment. 


So what do daytraders do then?  Thus daytraders are on the computer looking at the markets all the time etc.  So if everything keeps going down, how do they make money?  If prices keep dropping for a long time, then there is no money to be made right?  Or is there?  Because what do daytraders do if the market prices keep going down etc?  Sure you can buy a lot of coins at cheap prices but you don't know how long it would take to go back up etc. 
when the price of bitcoin/altcoins is down its also good if you think hard because you can invest in that time then sell it when the price grow that's the cycle here.You can lose but the chance for profit is big so you need only to wait to sell it in right time.I think if you already invest in some coins lose or wait you need to understand that risky things
Shorting might be profitable or not which would depend on when did you able to buy your coins.If you do see that theres a possible pullback or bearish trend then selling out for sure profits would be recommended but if it turns out that you are on negative profits then it would depend to you if you would cut loss or risk it to hold and wait for recovery. Making money mostly do happen on accumulating cheap coins.
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There are sites where you can do shorting but it is only recommended to traders who understand it because once you sell and the price goes up then you can lose your investment in just one swoop. Many professional traders are doing this saying that they earn more money in shorting because price drops drastically but when it is going up it is slow. Some cut their losses and find a possible support if you want to do the buy low and sell high trading. They just buy more at the possible bottom to average down so that the target price to profit would be lower. Because of the crypto volatility, some prefer holding their coins and just wait for it to go up and never sell in a loss and you will only be comfortable doing this if the coin has a viable project because if it is just one of those sh*tcoins then maybe you might want to sell your position and find a coin for long term hodl.

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Do not sell your position, just hold it and wait until prices bounce back. Volatility of price place high risk/reward. Proper timing and a bit of luck I guess. I too cut-loss sometimes between 10-15% but that rarely happens. I always trust my gut that soon there will be an uptrend and if it happens, I exit. Trading is not for the emotional and faint-hearted, it can break your will and test your patience.
If the prices are falling one should not be discouraged as it may be a temporary phase. Bitcoin is a established currency it will go up. Some educational institutions have accepted the Bitcoin as a fee. With the passage of time it will come more popular in the market and its prices will go high. If you want to go for trading invest in bitcoin, be committed to your trading and be patient.
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Keep buying when price going down. I know crypto trading is not the same with forex or stock or other that we made money though price is keep going down. Daytrader just watch the market if keep going down.
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I don't know much about stocks but i know that in stocks if you think certain stocks will fall, you can short them and make money.  However with bitcoin/altcoin, can you short or is that not possible?  Also isn't it true shorting is very dangerous because you can lose a lot more shorting than investing in bitcoin/altcoin?


I know when prices drop, that is when you want to buy because you want to buy low and sell high.  So what would be the strategy if bitcoin/altcoin stays the same or keeps dropping etc?  Thus its all red and stays that way?  Of course you could buy... then wait till it goes back up and sell to make profit.  But you don't know how long that would that or it could possibly not and keep going down etc.  I understand that if you want to daytrade, well you buy it at certain price then sell at certain price to lock in profit.  Thus if prices go higher and you bought earlier, you will make profit if you sell.  But besides buying the coin at low prices, you aren't making any money at the moment. 


So what do daytraders do then?  Thus daytraders are on the computer looking at the markets all the time etc.  So if everything keeps going down, how do they make money?  If prices keep dropping for a long time, then there is no money to be made right?  Or is there?  Because what do daytraders do if the market prices keep going down etc?  Sure you can buy a lot of coins at cheap prices but you don't know how long it would take to go back up etc. 

I have that told me to buy coins when the price is low and sell it when its price pump even though we do not know how long will it takes to pump again. But I get your point. What if it keeps down and down? I also ask myself about it. Maybe the right thing to do is to first analyze the previous prices of the coin you / we are targetinf to buy or invest. I have altcoins from my campaigns but it takes a long time to rise its price. Now I look on the other side, I see bitcoin even thoygh it drops , it still pump up so fast so think bitcoin is good thing to buy and invest. Then I try it and luckily I am earning as its price rise from day to day.

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when someone who feels panicked they will not care to sell their coins immediately, they think to bear a little bit of a loss than to get big losses, they tend to think not to back up, so they do the panic selling
The thing is that the prices will not keep falling forever and would definitely rise back up at some point. However, if it is something that shows a huge sign of falling the more and I am sure of that from all angle, probably from the news, then I can exchange half of them with USDT and then buy back in when I am sure it is good enough.

The irony of panic selling is no doubt to save yourself not from getting more loss. The thing is we never know what will happen in the coming days. In addition to this, things don’t remain the same all the time. You should always hope for the best and you need to prepare yourself for the worst. This is the only thing which can help you in making wise decisions at tough time. Remain vigilant all the time.
Preparing oneself for the worst is really what everyone should still always put in mind in as much as we are very optimistic. This is the reason I keep looking at those who said they are going all in on bitcoin. Preparing that anything crazy could happen at any point in as much as you believe that you can make so much gain is what would always make one play safe.
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