[POR]⚡ELECTRONEUM⚡Official Moderated Thread

[boxalex]

AngeGallego submitted a possible fix!  I hope it is what they need and the team is currently reviewing the code.
https://github.com/electroneum/electroneum/pull/253/commits/f0b4913700a741e0fe5c2ceb4f3eb90177e367f4

the comment below that so called fix doesn't sound too promising to be honest:

You don't think the ETN devs could have figured this out? Obviously they just don't want to do this, for some unknown reason.
If you really want to be useful, try to find the bug that is causing rejected blocks when not empty.

P.S.: The guy posting that fix referred as well to gifthub 249, which we all know by now, didn't work out.

and from 12 hours ago we have this on gifthub:

Failed to deinitialize core... #252

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[JCS-CCT]

AngeGallego submitted a possible fix!  I hope it is what they need and the team is currently reviewing the code.
https://github.com/electroneum/electroneum/pull/253/commits/f0b4913700a741e0fe5c2ceb4f3eb90177e367f4

the comment below that so called fix doesn't sound too promising to be honest:

You don't think the ETN devs could have figured this out? Obviously they just don't want to do this, for some unknown reason.
If you really want to be useful, try to find the bug that is causing rejected blocks when not empty.

LOL.. I don't blame him for being upset.  I'm not happy with how this went down.  I guess the other pull addressed that issue.  I think there are two issues.

Edit:  I think AngeGallego's fix only fixes the difficulty issue and not the ring issue.

Edit2:  So I guess the ring issue still needs a fix.

[boxalex]

Edit:  I think AngeGallego's fix only fixes the difficulty issue and not the ring issue.

I think it fixed none of both. And from my understanding the ring issue wasn't a ring issue, means
after flushing the mem pool problem still excists, but i'am not a coder, just some basic understanding,
but that's what i get out.

I think the problem is way deeper and more complex having mind some monero features have been
removed and others added and i bet there somewhere lies the problem with some kind of incompatiblity....
Just only a guess of course.

[JCS-CCT]

Edit:  I think AngeGallego's fix only fixes the difficulty issue and not the ring issue.

I think it fixed none of both. And from my understanding the ring issue wasn't a ring issue, means
after flushing the mem pool problem still excists, but i'am not a coder, just some basic understanding,
but that's what i get out.

I think the problem is way deeper and more complex having mind some monero features have been
removed and others added and i bet there somewhere lies the problem with some kind of incompatiblity....
Just only a guess of course.

Could be.  I hope they give us an update soon.

[JCS-CCT]

Edit:  I think AngeGallego's fix only fixes the difficulty issue and not the ring issue.

I think it fixed none of both. And from my understanding the ring issue wasn't a ring issue, means
after flushing the mem pool problem still excists, but i'am not a coder, just some basic understanding,
but that's what i get out.

You are not a coder but I am.

And yes, this patch fix the difficulty problem - it simple makes next blocks 375 a fixed difficulty blocks where difficulty is hardcoded in patch.
And no, it not fix the Transactions Bug.

Are you helping with the transaction bug?  I think they need help.

[boxalex]

Edit:  I think AngeGallego's fix only fixes the difficulty issue and not the ring issue.

I think it fixed none of both. And from my understanding the ring issue wasn't a ring issue, means
after flushing the mem pool problem still excists, but i'am not a coder, just some basic understanding,
but that's what i get out.

You are not a coder but I am.

And yes, this patch fix the difficulty problem - it simple makes next blocks 375 a fixed difficulty blocks where difficulty is hardcoded in patch.
And no, it not fix the Transactions Bug.

how can it do this when the block is rejected? Doesn't the block need to be accepted to fix the difficulty problem first?
As said, that's my non coder thought: As long as none of the new blocks gets accepted so doesn't any change within it, not?

[JCS-CCT]

Are you helping with the transaction bug?  I think they need help.

As I see they don't want any help. Their reaction is only one - "Mine, you fools, mine! It's not profitable, you will lost you money on electricity, but you must mine!"

If you know a fix, you can submit a pull request.  This is more than just about the devs, there are many users like myself that have transactions on the blockchain and own ETN coins.

[boxalex]

how can it do this when the block is rejected? Doesn't the block need to be accepted to fix the difficulty problem first?
As said, that's my non coder thought: As long as none of the new blocks gets accepted so doesn't any change within it, not?

Nope. Difficulty is calculated by the miner before calclutating block hash as the part of the block template. (function Blockchain::create_block_template() in blockchain.cpp)
If patch decide that difficulty for the next block must be lower miner will spend less time building next block.

Thx, got it more or less, not complety, lol, but i got an idea at least.

How about a temporary roll-back? Wouldn't that be temporary the better decision after 4 days without working network?

[dogtana]

How about some FAITH in the team!!!

[LaScuderia]

If you know a fix, you can submit a pull request.  This is more than just about the devs, there are many users like myself that have transactions on the blockchain and own ETN coins.

One more time. Developers are NOT interested in patches. They think all is OK - just read their twitter.

The problem is not even in the patches themselves or in anything else you need to look wider.
Any correction requires an audit and may lead to even greater problems. So if there is not a big hole or some big problem in the code, then they will not fix it.

[contraband]

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[contraband]

how can it do this when the block is rejected? Doesn't the block need to be accepted to fix the difficulty problem first?
As said, that's my non coder thought: As long as none of the new blocks gets accepted so doesn't any change within it, not?

Nope. Difficulty is calculated by the miner before calclutating block hash as the part of the block template. (function Blockchain::create_block_template() in blockchain.cpp)
If patch decide that difficulty for the next block must be lower miner will spend less time building next block.

Thx, got it more or less, not complety, lol, but i got an idea at least.

How about a temporary roll-back? Wouldn't that be temporary the better decision after 4 days without working network?

No, I dont think a rollback would be of interest

[Millennium_blue]

Electroneum is not going well now, but I believe it will be rising soon.Because they are focused on the project.

[KimberlyGB]

Even the work of the team did not greatly affect the price of the coin, but I think if there will be a continuation of the work then there will be a good price.

[new24core]

So all the bonus blocks have been mined now and I am really hoping that I will see a payment. I have been mining on nanapool so can someone from ETN please comment ?

[erwan]

ETN has a solid foundation but you should also note that other coins witdiversify, maybe try the other etnh better foundation has gone this path and caused investors millions and billions of hard earn cash. This is why diversification helps in spreading the risk.

[boxalex]

@ Contraband: I got 2 messages deleted:

- 1 containing the miningpool hub statement that is still on their pool about the state of electroneum .... 
- 1 containing some messages from the electroneum reddit channel  that are still visible there but got deleted here? 

Seriously??

Not 1 piece of information was shared from the team so far in this thread, instead of the warning message that you bann
users from here and bitcointalk (which leaves a bad taste anyway) you should have made a post on what's going on.

I mean you should know, the less information you provide, the more speculation is going on....

Just my 2 cents.

[liksagen]

There is a hysterical admin that, instead of eliminating the problem, it turns out to be able to delete messages and angrily write in black big letters.

In the message that is removed, you can find the contacts of people who successfully made the fork of ETN with V7

To you here a sound thought is said, take a pullback until the coin is killed finally

P.s:do not be a coin killer

[Coinbaker_criptobakery]

Supporting ETN with my humble 12KHs. I really love this coin!

Guys, put all your miners to ETN!

[realcryptomines]

Supporting ETN with my humble 12KHs. I really love this coin!

Guys, put all your miners to ETN!

Nah, bonus is over