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July 10, 2018, 10:13:45 AM |
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Warning to mobile miners. Do not keep your balance in their wallet. They may decide to just keep it.
So the ETN wallet is a centralised service and they can decide to ban you at any moment and don't provide any info or a way to unban the frozen wallet? Just wow. This breaks the most important feature of crypto -- open to everyone, free (as in free speech) and uncensored transactions.
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RivAngE
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What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger
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July 10, 2018, 12:12:19 PM |
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Warning to mobile miners. Do not keep your balance in their wallet. They may decide to just keep it.
So the ETN wallet is a centralised service and they can decide to ban you at any moment and don't provide any info or a way to unban the frozen wallet? Just wow. This breaks the most important feature of crypto -- open to everyone, free (as in free speech) and uncensored transactions. The fact that your posts are not deleted is proof that the Electroneum team allowing free speech. Electroneum is aiming to create collaborations with other companies, do you think any company would trust a community driven project without a central entity? After all, no one is forcing anyone to use the official wallet. Just use the paper wallet, the command line wallet (CLI) or make your own wallet. And actually... if FBI is after you then you better keep your funds on a wallet you control, most people don't have such a problem though.
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dogtana
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July 10, 2018, 12:41:38 PM |
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Warning to mobile miners. Do not keep your balance in their wallet. They may decide to just keep it.
So the ETN wallet is a centralised service and they can decide to ban you at any moment and don't provide any info or a way to unban the frozen wallet? Just wow. This breaks the most important feature of crypto -- open to everyone, free (as in free speech) and uncensored transactions. When 97 percent of bitcoin is owned by 0.2% of all wallets, it is unfair to call ETN centralised.
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July 10, 2018, 01:01:56 PM Last edit: July 10, 2018, 01:21:09 PM by stfN2128 |
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Warning to mobile miners. Do not keep your balance in their wallet. They may decide to just keep it.
So the ETN wallet is a centralised service and they can decide to ban you at any moment and don't provide any info or a way to unban the frozen wallet? Just wow. This breaks the most important feature of crypto -- open to everyone, free (as in free speech) and uncensored transactions. It`s just fair for the people who are playing with the rules and just use one mobile phone to mine. I support banning cheaters. You are still free to use a paper wallet or cli wallet. You aren`t dependent on the "centralization" of ETN mobile wallet...
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dogtana
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July 10, 2018, 01:15:11 PM |
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Warning to mobile miners. Do not keep your balance in their wallet. They may decide to just keep it.
So the ETN wallet is a centralised service and they can decide to ban you at any moment and don't provide any info or a way to unban the frozen wallet? Just wow. This breaks the most important feature of crypto -- open to everyone, free (as in free speech) and uncensored transactions. It`s just fair for the people who are playing with the rules and just use one mobile phone to mine. I support banning cheaters. You are still free to use a paper wallet or cli wallet. You aren`t dependent on the "centralisation" of ETN mobile wallet... True, if you use their service, you are bound by their rules.
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Lordas
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July 10, 2018, 01:55:06 PM |
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Ow - I have 1/100 BTC on buy ETN at 2 satoshi, why you follow me?
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July 10, 2018, 02:43:41 PM |
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It`s just fair for the people who are playing with the rules and just use one mobile phone to mine. I support banning cheaters.
You are still free to use a paper wallet or cli wallet. You aren`t dependent on the "centralization" of ETN mobile wallet...
While i agree playing by the rules is an important factor freezing a whole wallet is a hard one to be honest and just NEVER should be happen. The wallet should never ever be touched by anybody expect the owner/user. There are more easy ways to protect the cell phone mining. How about a mining bann when more than one device is detetected at the same time? Could be done automaticly, doesn't need working hours for dealing with frozen accounts, is fair to everybody. Just as an example: 2 days ago i my wife got interested how that cell phone mining worked as i just have it for fun running from time to time on my phone. I installed the program on her phone and as it was too much hazzles to make a new account i logged in with mine. We "mined" about 2 or 3 hours until i saw that post about the frozen wallet due "several device mining". No need to say that i immediatly stopped my wifes miner and immediatly checked my account if the wallet isn't frozen as well. Thx god, my wallet, severl 10.000's ETN, is ok, mostly because both devices have been only online for some hours. I admit i even wasn't aware of the 1 cell phone rule, but of course it makes sense after someone thinks about it, no doubt. But would it be fair to have a whole wallet frozen just for some ETN? Come one, as explained above, their are easier better fitting methods that could take place than freezing a wallet. This said, i really hope ETN changes this policy as freezing a wallet is one of the biggest "NO GO" in crypto.
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stfN2128
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July 10, 2018, 06:19:33 PM |
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It`s just fair for the people who are playing with the rules and just use one mobile phone to mine. I support banning cheaters.
You are still free to use a paper wallet or cli wallet. You aren`t dependent on the "centralization" of ETN mobile wallet...
While i agree playing by the rules is an important factor freezing a whole wallet is a hard one to be honest and just NEVER should be happen. The wallet should never ever be touched by anybody expect the owner/user. There are more easy ways to protect the cell phone mining. How about a mining bann when more than one device is detetected at the same time? Could be done automaticly, doesn't need working hours for dealing with frozen accounts, is fair to everybody. Just as an example: 2 days ago i my wife got interested how that cell phone mining worked as i just have it for fun running from time to time on my phone. I installed the program on her phone and as it was too much hazzles to make a new account i logged in with mine. We "mined" about 2 or 3 hours until i saw that post about the frozen wallet due "several device mining". No need to say that i immediatly stopped my wifes miner and immediatly checked my account if the wallet isn't frozen as well. Thx god, my wallet, severl 10.000's ETN, is ok, mostly because both devices have been only online for some hours. I admit i even wasn't aware of the 1 cell phone rule, but of course it makes sense after someone thinks about it, no doubt. But would it be fair to have a whole wallet frozen just for some ETN? Come one, as explained above, their are easier better fitting methods that could take place than freezing a wallet. This said, i really hope ETN changes this policy as freezing a wallet is one of the biggest "NO GO" in crypto. So your account weren`t frozen after you mined with two phones. Maybe the other guy isn`t totally honest... By the way. I just got a mail from test flight, i`m able to test the Electroneum iOS app
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zenfo
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July 10, 2018, 08:41:54 PM |
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I will wait a few more months. I'm in no hurry. this project will already make its way. We will see much higher prices at september.I never stopped believing to the team.
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July 11, 2018, 12:18:07 AM |
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Just watching and wating the new fork and the come back to Cn7 or other resistent algo.
Everbody see the price go to falling down since the last fork, good job Mr. Richard.
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July 11, 2018, 01:58:34 AM |
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Just deleted a comment that was still talking about the Devs making a behind the scenes deal with ASIC producers.
This is obviously not true.
Its being talked about as if its a proven fact.
Its silly. Ive let some of the comments stay, but now its getting old.
The future of the coin is not ruined because different machines are mining it. This actually makes the blockchain MUCH MORE SECURE than before.
The future of ETN does not hinge upon GPUs mining the coin.
Mass adoption is not based on this either.
The future success of Electroneum will be built on innovation, partnerships, utility, and adoption.
These are the things that will make ETN a success and this is what will happen. Plan on it.
Expect the price to possibly to fall to half the ICO price before it starts to rise. Expect a high valuation to take a year or two.
We are still gaining users at a faster pace than Facebook and Twitter did.
We are on REAL time here; not crypto time.
ETN is still in the VERY EARLY STAGES!!
MAKE NO MISTAKE. WE WILL BE THE COIN WITH THE MOST USERS WITHIN A YEAR OR TWO. THIS WILL GET US A LOT OF ATTENTION.
REMEMBER, ETN HAS THE BEST MARKETERS OF ANY CRYPTO TO DATE!! THE FIRST MARKETING PUSH HAS NOT EVEN STARTED YET!!!
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Lordas
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July 11, 2018, 06:37:10 AM |
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This is what we all fear - that ETN is just marketing, nothing more I would wait any real use of the coin, what was in whitepaper, but still the target is just grow in users base...
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July 11, 2018, 08:02:58 AM |
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I have so far been impressed by how much this team keeps their followers in the loop.Their roadmap is fairly clear and honest, and the prospects of what this company can achieve are extremely exciting.
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CharlieCox
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July 11, 2018, 08:30:45 AM |
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The fact that your posts are not deleted is proof that the Electroneum team allowing free speech.
That's great. Also there is no reason to delete my posts. It's good that different people have different choices and opinions, isn't it? I was here during the ICO, I was mining ETN while it was possible to mine and I hold a fair amount of coins. I'm not here to spam this thread or shill other coins / projects. I still consider myself to be part of this community and I want Electroneum to grow. Since small miners like myself are not able to mine and support ETN at the moment, I had to move on to other projects. I will occasionally stop by and check for new developments, though. Expect a high valuation to take a year or two. See you in a year or two
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July 11, 2018, 04:50:58 PM Last edit: July 11, 2018, 05:05:32 PM by AlexanderDumas |
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Warning to mobile miners. Do not keep your balance in their wallet. They may decide to just keep it.
So the ETN wallet is a centralised service and they can decide to ban you at any moment and don't provide any info or a way to unban the frozen wallet? Just wow. This breaks the most important feature of crypto -- open to everyone, free (as in free speech) and uncensored transactions. When 97 percent of bitcoin is owned by 0.2% of all wallets, it is unfair to call ETN centralised. Do you realize the BS you just wrote? if 97% was controlled by 0.2%, there would not be a market and the market is quite liquid indeed. And definitively if they had such a control that you imply, they would not allow its price to go down below mining profitability.
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July 11, 2018, 05:03:58 PM |
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Just deleted a comment that was still talking about the Devs making a behind the scenes deal with ASIC producers.
This is obviously not true.
Its being talked about as if its a proven fact.
Its silly. Ive let some of the comments stay, but now its getting old.
The future of the coin is not ruined because different machines are mining it. This actually makes the blockchain MUCH MORE SECURE than before.
The future of ETN does not hinge upon GPUs mining the coin.
Mass adoption is not based on this either.
The future success of Electroneum will be built on innovation, partnerships, utility, and adoption.
These are the things that will make ETN a success and this is what will happen. Plan on it.
Expect the price to possibly to fall to half the ICO price before it starts to rise. Expect a high valuation to take a year or two.
We are still gaining users at a faster pace than Facebook and Twitter did.
We are on REAL time here; not crypto time.
ETN is still in the VERY EARLY STAGES!!
MAKE NO MISTAKE. WE WILL BE THE COIN WITH THE MOST USERS WITHIN A YEAR OR TWO. THIS WILL GET US A LOT OF ATTENTION.
REMEMBER, ETN HAS THE BEST MARKETERS OF ANY CRYPTO TO DATE!! THE FIRST MARKETING PUSH HAS NOT EVEN STARTED YET!!!
How can you state that they have the best marketers, if you also state they have not even started marketing yet. That is your just wishful thinking, which can be also called being totally incompetent. They have a barely decent marketing team. that is it. Yes Richard can speak in front of a camera, yet its statements have quite a few flaws that rise some flags and will keeps smart money investors away. Beside, even with the little budget which they have, they could come up with something better in term of presentations. Mass adoption will not rise the price, only the interest of smart money and speculators will.
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Mrbee
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July 11, 2018, 05:23:50 PM |
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An electrifying project, to say the least! I know now is not the time for jokes & being optimistic, but you guys have to realize that the whole market is suffer & it would've been real weird if ELECTRONEUM didn't lose any ground & there wasn't any price drop, you know.
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July 11, 2018, 11:22:22 PM |
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electroneum.herominers.com
everything worked fine and now it's not day.
* VERSIONS XMRig/2.7.1-beta libuv/1.20.3 OpenCL/2.0 MSVC/2017 [2018-07-12 01:02:43] speed 10s/60s/15m 1303.7 1302.3 n/a H/s max 1308.6 H/s [2018-07-12 01:03:07] rejected (0/1) diff 142860 "Rejected share: invalid result" (63 ms) [2018-07-12 01:03:12] rejected (0/2) diff 142860 "Rejected share: invalid result" (64 ms)
what happened? or what has changed? and what should I do?
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MinermanNC
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July 12, 2018, 12:15:26 AM |
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Just a little something here of a reality check, especially for all the crypto new comers Enjoy, this still holds true today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIasr2AiyZ0
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*BTC: 1DiR25SPo84sThzTATr27EZEQZLt6hv6tG
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July 12, 2018, 03:50:14 AM |
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I laughed so hard
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