Newbies can now pay a small fee to enable images

[VRossi]

Sorry to post here. I need it working in less than a month. I will delete once problem is solved.
I sent to 3PnU4WzCG1da3nSpzzeuVRiUwbDG7JcQnp, and my status is still newbie
Also sent an email to mar18paybug@theymos.e4ward.com to complain

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New suggestion:

Accounts at Full Member rank or higher should be able to grant an “avatar blessing” to accounts which they openly disclose as their alts.  [...]

Example use case (other than mine):

Yes, I have it [Copper Memership] on my organization profile.  It works well for including images in posts.

Best regards,
Ben

Otherwise, any paid avatar option must be made too expensive for people who are seeking free money.  That should be balanced against not making it too expensive for individuals who are trying to bootstrap a small business on a shoestring budget (cough).

I think that at current rates, around 0.01 – 0.02 BTC would be a reasonable business-class expense (even for small business) while hopefully being cost-prohibitive to a Newbie who just wants to “use avatar campaign in the bounty”.

I would support Mr. Cassio's suggestion, but it may be complicated to track if someone transfers their accounts to others.  I do, however, agree with the concept that any paid upgrades should be sufficiently high in cost as to deter their use as a vehicle for spam.  A fair price for a fair service.  Perhaps removed from an account upon any spam violation, no tolerance policy?

I do think you may be right about tracking privileges given between accounts.  As for paid upgrades, I emphatically urge that any fee must be absolutely nonrefundable, and that moderation/bans be strict.  This is already the case with Copper Membership.  As I recently saw when setting up a special-purpose alt account, the current Copper Membership purchase page states:

Be warned that:

• You can still be banned if you break the rules. You will not get any special treatment.
• These memberships are not guaranteed to last forever, or to offer the same benefits forever.
• No refunds will be given.

Is there any word on if/when some moderately expensive, absolutely nonrefundable paid avatar option may be offered?

I think the merit system is a great approach to cutting down on spam, over time that should have an increased effect.

Indeed.

Best regards,
Ben

Sorry to post here. I need it working in less than a month. I will delete once problem is solved.
I sent to 3PnU4WzCG1da3nSpzzeuVRiUwbDG7JcQnp, and my status is still newbie
Also sent an email to mar18paybug@theymos.e4ward.com to complain

Copper Membership does not change rank, and was never claimed to.  You are currently a Newbie with 28 activity.  If you purchase and wear Copper Membership, then your rank will continue to be “Newbie” with the title “Copper Member” added below it; and some restrictions (such as posting of images) will be relaxed.  This is the benefit which I enjoyed as a Newbie with Copper Membership.

There is no way to increase your rank above Newbie in less than a month.

Even if you pay for it, activation of Copper Membership is not automatic.  After the price is paid and the transaction is confirmed on the blockchain, you must go here and elect to “wear” your Copper Membership:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=credit;promote

E-mailing theymos will not help if you fail to heed basic instructions.

[AsianNapoleon]

i'm copper member now. Cool

[Ferdinand Thomas]

By popular demand, newbies can now pay to have some of their restrictions lifted. If you pay the fee, you become a Copper Member, and you can post images. That's the main point of this: allowing newbies to post images. Additionally (and these might change depending on how things go), Copper Members currently have these bonuses:

- Some of the same permissions as Member-rank members, such as reduced signature styling restrictions. (But none of the PM-related restrictions are currently lifted, such as the style limit or per-hour PM limit.)
- Your "you must wait ____ seconds between ___" counter is reduced by 75%. So if you're naturally of Newbie rank, you only have to wait 360-75% = 90 seconds.

If you paid an "evil IP" registration fee, then whatever you paid (in BTC terms) is subtracted from the upgrade fee. If you paid a registration fee a long time ago, you might even get a free Copper Membership due to the increase in BTC price. Just visit the link at the bottom of this post to check whether you have it already.

I am aware that for most people the benefits of this membership are pretty lame. This membership is only intended to fill a specific niche; if you don't need it, don't buy it. It is not intended to be the lower-cost Donator/VIP alternative which I've talked about before as a possibility.

I wrote the system so that I can easily add additional paid memberships in the future, but I might not ever do so. Not sure.

You can buy it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=credit;promote

good to know!!!

[Jankhot]

45/5000
I am very happy to hear the news!

[Granxis]

Obviously the title of copper looks very cool, really a very reasonable price if the charge is 0.00208333 BTC. Maybe I should think a bit, I hope it does not raise the price.

[Tutankrypto]

IT would be great if one could pay with altcoins with less fees and faster transactions.

[LTU_btc]

IT would be great if one could pay with altcoins with less fees and faster transactions.

It's Bitcointalk, not altcointalk and this is why you can pay with BTC only. And currently Bitcoin transactions are cheap and fast

[sapta]

I would pay no fee and work hard to get it how many days may it take.

Copper Member is not earned by 'working hard'. It is for Newbies who wants to remove posting limitations, etc.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I would pay no fee and work hard to get it how many days may it take.

I think we can think it to be the another way to get merits poibt quickly after being ranked to copper

This is the second time I've seen you two posting one (almost) right after the other.  With the similarities in your usernames, I strongly suspect you're alt accounts, and you're both shitposters who can't write in proper English.  You'd best be careful when you sign up for campaigns, because you don't want to get caught abusing them with alts.

I'd also suggest doing much less posting, more reading, and figure out whether you really want to be posting in the English section of bitcointalk.  I don't believe you're qualified to do so, honestly.

[secondhandlark5]

Thats not fair to claim a money for everything and every privilages on this forum :"(

[TheQuin]

Thats not fair to claim a money for everything and every privilages on this forum :"(

Nobody is forcing you to use the forum. You're already a Jr. Member, so you can post images anyway. Do you think the web hosting and the staff to run and moderate it are free as well?

[hygroscopicgymnasiumd]

I didnt knew that posting image in the forum is restricted for the newbies. I thought its general

[plumosemagellanicR]

Ow wonderful thanks for this brother. Lets have a try out in copper member but is it legal?

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Paid to be a Copper Member earlier today, it doesn’t really give me anything I didn’t have before as I’m a Legendary Member any way & can obviously post pics but thought it’d be cool to have the little title & contribute financially to the forum even if it is only a small amount of money.

It got me thinking any way, how many other Copper Members are there here?

[TheQuin]

It got me thinking any way, how many other Copper Members are there here?

Quite a lot! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=mlist;sa=search and put copper as the search term under search by position and it gives 34 pages of them.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

It got me thinking any way, how many other Copper Members are there here?

Quite a lot! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=mlist;sa=search and put copper as the search term under search by position and it gives 34 pages of them.

Wow yeah, 34 pages of them. I’ve never even seen hardly any of those accounts posting here.

Weird.

[starnokta]

Newbie can now turn to Junior member in 30 days
merit 0 ?

[TryNinja]

Newbie can now turn to Junior member in 30 days
merit 0 ?

Yes. It's possible.

Wow yeah, 34 pages of them. I’ve never even seen hardly any of those accounts posting here.

Weird.

I've noticed that many of them only post in the Altcoins board, as most of them only pay the Copper Member upgrade so they can make their ANN thread.

[Talk merit]

Newbie can now turn to Junior member in 30 days
merit 0 ?

I think it took me 15 days to do it. 1 Day for the first 28 points, and one activity period to top it up.

I'll need to check that, but you can work it out from my join date.