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September 24, 2012, 05:12:44 PM |
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I support this
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marcus_of_augustus
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September 24, 2012, 11:25:55 PM |
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Good luck Luke-jr.
However, I think you are probably thrashing a dead horse since both Gavin A. and Jeff G. have indicated they will defend bitcoin's current level of traceability.
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September 25, 2012, 12:04:44 AM |
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Good luck Luke-jr.
However, I think you are probably thrashing a dead horse since both Gavin A. and Jeff G. have indicated they will defend bitcoin's current level of traceability.
Did I miss something, or are you just trolling?
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17Np17BSrpnHCZ2pgtiMNnhjnsWJ2TMqq8 I routinely ignore posters with paid advertising in their sigs. You should too.
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Luke-Jr
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September 25, 2012, 04:36:33 AM |
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However, I think you are probably thrashing a dead horse since both Gavin A. and Jeff G. have indicated they will defend bitcoin's current level of traceability. So will I*. But I don't think any of us consider Coin Control to have much to do with traceability. I don't personally care about Coin Control either, which is why I've only been minimally keeping it up to date, not doing the proper maintenance it needs to get merged. * Not to say there aren't things that could make Bitcoin less traceable for real, that could be accepted for other good reasons.
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Bitcoin Oz
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September 25, 2012, 05:06:01 AM |
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Good luck Luke-jr.
However, I think you are probably thrashing a dead horse since both Gavin A. and Jeff G. have indicated they will defend bitcoin's current level of traceability.
And why would they want that ?
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September 25, 2012, 01:18:15 PM |
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Yeah, where did I say that?
Oops, edited, I forgot about my "don't feed the trolls" rule.
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How often do you get the chance to work on a potentially world-changing project?
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September 25, 2012, 09:04:33 PM |
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Good luck Luke-jr.
However, I think you are probably thrashing a dead horse since both Gavin A. and Jeff G. have indicated they will defend bitcoin's current level of traceability.
Pictures or it never happened. Of course there are plenty of disadvantages to coin control / sendfromaddress. Above all it makes bitcoin much more of a hassle to use. But I think we somehow have to deal with this linkability issue. At least people using Bitcoin have to know about it, transparency is very important here. The patch lets people see what bitcoin really is currently. I don't want Bitcoin to end up like the Royal Canadian Mint's Mintchip marketing vote incident.
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October 13, 2012, 08:52:08 PM |
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Gavin, if we, those who are interested in this function, provide our interest by donations to you or other developer, is there a chance that you will make this patch happen sooner?
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ShadowOfHarbringer
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October 13, 2012, 10:58:52 PM |
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Gavin, if we, those who are interested in this function, provide our interest by donations to you or other developer, is there a chance that you will make this patch happen sooner?
+5 BTC I join the question and pledge 5 BTC if anybody would want to finish it sooner.
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phelix
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October 13, 2012, 11:09:39 PM |
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multibit with multiple wallets might be an alternative
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October 29, 2012, 09:07:42 AM |
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this is still a problem...
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ShadowOfHarbringer
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October 30, 2012, 08:31:50 AM |
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Any updates on the topic ? Is anybody working on it ?
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K1773R
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October 30, 2012, 09:07:19 AM |
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Any updates on the topic ? Is anybody working on it ?
i hope they will update it, or someone pick it up since this is really important!
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October 30, 2012, 09:21:36 AM |
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For the more technically savvy the raw tx API (perhaps with help from brainwallet.org) reduces the priority of this feature a lot (as you have been able to do everything you want as far as controlling your coins since 0.7 was released). For the less technically competent I guess the question is really whether the UI can be made easy enough to make the feature worthwhile implementing (if it's not easily understood then there is probably little point in doing more work on this). Note that I haven't actually tested the patch so have no idea how intuitive the UI is. Certainly I doubt it will ever be a feature that Gavin's grandmother will be asking for.
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ShadowOfHarbringer
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October 30, 2012, 10:12:18 AM |
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Certainly I doubt it will ever be a feature that Gavin's grandmother will be asking for. Well it's not necessary for normal usage and probably won't be used by 99% Bitcoin users, but it is a very important feature still for the uber-geek/cryptoanarchist/other WKWTAD * people. -- * WKWTAD people = People Who Know What They Are Doing
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CIYAM
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October 30, 2012, 10:53:08 AM |
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* WKWTAD people = People Who Know What They Are Doing
And those people can't use the raw tx API (even with the help of brainwallet.org)?
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ShadowOfHarbringer
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October 30, 2012, 11:52:29 AM |
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* WKWTAD people = People Who Know What They Are Doing
And those people can't use the raw tx API (even with the help of brainwallet.org)? Even if that is possible, it will be far more convenient (and less time consuming) if it would be integrated in the mainline client.
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October 30, 2012, 12:24:10 PM |
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Even if that is possible, it will be far more convenient (and less time consuming) if it would be integrated in the mainline client.
Well I am pretty sure I will be playing around with the raw tx stuff soon (probably using brainwallet.org to make it easier). So hopefully I'll have something positive to report about using it down the track.
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ShadowOfHarbringer
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October 30, 2012, 01:21:41 PM |
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Even if that is possible, it will be far more convenient (and less time consuming) if it would be integrated in the mainline client.
Well I am pretty sure I will be playing around with the raw tx stuff soon (probably using brainwallet.org to make it easier). So hopefully I'll have something positive to report about using it down the track. You would basically have to write an advanced script or a frontend for bitcoind which would use this feature. Anyway, it's complicated, not everybody has time for this and you don't have certanity that you did it properly. I would probably write my own script if that was easy enough.
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October 30, 2012, 01:41:14 PM |
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Any updates on the topic ? Is anybody working on it ?
i hope they will update it, or someone pick it up since this is really important! Live in hope, die in despair! --- It will never happen. The developers want BTC to get mainstream acceptance. The major issue that Governments and institutions have is the perceived anonymous nature of the BTC system. Therefore the developers will not countenance the idea of increased anonymity, perceived or otherwise. Forget the word anonymous, it has all sorts of negative implications. What we want is privacy, and privacy in our transactions is what we are talking about here. We obviously have to do it ourselves. Therefore start a Topic, find an Escrow holder, start a Bounty for a viable but entirely separate Privacy patch to be developed. Who is interested?? Establish an Escrow and I pledge 10BTC
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