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July 08, 2013, 05:06:45 PM
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I will give it to xcrowd, they certainly have a fantastic aesthetic designer.

Need more technical info, but looks like Abdi maybe more determined than I initially gave him credit for.

Also not that logos matter, it's a vast improvement on the original.

Aside from the visual, let's see what else transpires...

The case looks great, but we need some technical info too. The way i see it is that chips used for mining will output a lot of heat and i'm not sure that case is a proper one for mining. Where is the air comming from in order to cool the chips?

I count 8 modules per tier for the large 1.2Th/s unit.

At 75gh/s each.

75 x 8 = 600

600 x 2 = 1.2

The bits inbetween each module may well be housing fans.

In any case that's purely assumption, and the design may well be a mock-up, not final...

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July 08, 2013, 08:26:00 PM
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You will have a lot of heat and a lot of watts pumping in that case. If coolers are there where are the cables? Anyway i don't want to start anything, just to point out maybe things that OP may have missed Smiley

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July 08, 2013, 11:14:08 PM
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You will have a lot of heat and a lot of watts pumping in that case. If coolers are there where are the cables? Anyway i don't want to start anything, just to point out maybe things that OP may have missed Smiley

Yeah, I really think these are just flashy visual mock-ups used to gauge interest. Certainly nothing to consider a legitimate venture. Cryonics also had pretty rendering. Time will tell whether they step-up as promised. In any case, they've promised no pre-ordering or capital raising is required (then so did Terrahash, but Cloudhashing caused issue there), so there appears to be no risk to the members of the forum...

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July 09, 2013, 10:00:37 PM
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The teasers posted are our initial concept designs but they are closely aligned to the specifications that we are working with. We will be posting up some thermal simulation reports on our blog and hopefully include some thermal images of the simulations.

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You will have a lot of heat and a lot of watts pumping in that case. If coolers are there where are the cables? Anyway i don't want to start anything, just to point out maybe things that OP may have missed Smiley

Yeah, I really think these are just flashy visual mock-ups used to gauge interest. Certainly nothing to consider a legitimate venture. Cryonics also had pretty rendering. Time will tell whether they step-up as promised. In any case, they've promised no pre-ordering or capital raising is required (then so did Terrahash, but Cloudhashing caused issue there), so there appears to be no risk to the members of the forum...
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July 11, 2013, 04:57:39 AM
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If you are seriously working on an ASIC chip, then why can you not at least tell us what nm your chip will be?

You are lacking in even the vaguest of details...

At this point you need to be tossing out something other than pretty pictures.

I want you to be the "real deal", i really do, and if you prove yourselves then you can expect several TH of orders from me (escrow only of course), but at this point you seem very very lacking in details that anyone serious could/would be prepared to talk about already.


Founder appears to be a scammer but i will let you be the judge of that.  I dug up a bit of info on him.  Looks like he spent a lot of time trying to run investment scams in 2008 and 2009.  Also found his ebay account which basically has negative feedback for every transaction.  He does have a nice website and renderings though. Roll Eyes

A little background on the founder:

I am all about transparency but it seems like you ought to research more before you start slandering people around.

The only thing that can be confirmed above is my name, facebook & company name and registered address.


His Facebook page is now hidden, not very "transparent"


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July 12, 2013, 06:00:58 AM
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good luck !  we miners need new low cost products

$5000 for 1 TH product would be great

With the amount of computing power coming online I doubt very much that even $5k for 1TH would provide a profit (above ROI) after December of this year.  (200m difficulty in Dec, 275 in Jan, 400 in Feb.. etc).

Xcrowd - build a LTC (scrypt) miner instead, or also (pretty please Smiley).
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July 13, 2013, 12:35:02 AM
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For regular updates and access to our blog pre-launch please subscribe to our mailing list at http://eepurl.com/B8GAf

I register to your mailing list but I'm still not able to access the blog.
The Blog link ask me to register to the mailing list over and over again. I'm doing something wrong ?

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July 19, 2013, 06:03:56 AM
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July 19, 2013, 11:18:02 AM
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Great to see something as great as this coming from the UK.

Good luck.  Im in.
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July 20, 2013, 12:18:45 PM
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Do you have any details at all regarding your units, other than hash rate and price?

People want to know about the technology you use, for example the die size you will be using, perhaps also the estimated power consumption/GH and how you arrived at/why you chose these figures.

As other have pointed out, at the moment, you literally only have a picture. NOTHING else... Perhaps this is what you should focus on now...

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July 20, 2013, 08:34:22 PM
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Do you have any details at all regarding your units, other than hash rate and price?

People want to know about the technology you use, for example the die size you will be using, perhaps also the estimated power consumption/GH and how you arrived at/why you chose these figures.

As other have pointed out, at the moment, you literally only have a picture. NOTHING else... Perhaps this is what you should focus on now...
He's paying his own NRE, right? So he won't be taking money until he's already proved he has working units in hand.

Although, why anyone who can finance their NRE and units would sell to the public at all is beyond me. That's the point where you become a private server farm.

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July 21, 2013, 02:01:15 AM
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July 23, 2013, 06:18:31 PM
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search other threads for x-crowd info has been posted there its either 27mm or 22mm chips something in the 20's
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July 23, 2013, 09:41:42 PM
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search other threads for x-crowd info has been posted there its either 27mm or 22mm chips something in the 20's

Hi John

28nm was one of the sizes we looked at initially but the steep NRE wasn't worth the performance gain versus the process that were using at the moment. 22nm/16nm would be at least 12-18 months away if we do decide to work on further batches.
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July 25, 2013, 06:49:27 PM
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What's the bottom line eta for these guys?
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July 25, 2013, 07:00:24 PM
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What's the bottom line eta for these guys?

according to them 5-6 months, december? january?
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July 31, 2013, 06:11:00 PM
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Holy shit i want one of these!, this thread is definitly going on my watchlist and im going to try and save up some money

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August 02, 2013, 04:08:11 AM
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Holy shit i want one of these!, this thread is definitly going on my watchlist and im going to try and save up some money

I purchased a KNC Saturn, and will keep buying more every month with the profit, until xcrowd starts accepting orders, as at about 3-4months KNC's prices become fairly expensive as difficulty would be so high.
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August 04, 2013, 06:17:33 AM
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Holy shit i want one of these!, this thread is definitly going on my watchlist and im going to try and save up some money

I purchased a KNC Saturn, and will keep buying more every month with the profit, until xcrowd starts accepting orders, as at about 3-4months KNC's prices become fairly expensive as difficulty would be so high.
Niiice!, I cant afford anything like a Saturn, It really sucks being poor

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August 04, 2013, 05:02:38 PM
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Niiice!, I cant afford anything like a Saturn, It really sucks being poor

get in on a group buy then
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