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								|  | July 19, 2013, 10:50:29 PM |  | 
 
 @buzzdave, I've read through this entire thread hoping to find information about warranty but couldn't find it. Please elaborate on this.
 I wanted to touch on this - its a topic that is very important, but unfortunately we have not finalized our ideas yet.  We absolutely intend to back our product for manufacturing quality and function.  I expect to offer a 30 day full-replacement warranty at a minimum.  Issues yet to iron out are: -are we guaranteeing hashrate - this can vary due to so many factors outside of the hardware itself. -how will we detect tampering, especially attempts to OC -should we warranty for longer, standard seems to be 90-days All devices will be tested prior to shipment.  More details.  I don't know yet how long it makes sense to burn them in.  The engineers will give me an idea if its a matter of just seeing them fire up, or is it better to run them for 24 hours. Before you ask, sorry no I can't coordinate testing them against your specific pool creds...at least not yet.Interested in the warranty info as well.  My understanding is that EU law mandates a 2-year warranty? |  
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								|  | July 20, 2013, 02:59:07 AM |  | 
 
 Covering for overhead is completely acceptable and expected. However I believe BFL was taking the opportunity to gouge. |  
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								|  | July 20, 2013, 06:15:37 PM |  | 
 
 You guys like those little USB miners?  Go get 'em: https://bitcentury.io/   (4Gh/s USB stick) |  
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								|  | July 20, 2013, 06:22:56 PM |  | 
 
 ***BitFury has landed*** The first 10pc July chips were shipped last week and ... The guy wasn't home.  He has to wait until Monday to pick up   |  
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								| kaerf | 
								|  | July 20, 2013, 06:30:07 PM |  | 
 
 Damn, we're working on a 2 chip USB stick too.  |  
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								| mdbssm | 
								|  | July 20, 2013, 06:31:54 PM |  | 
 
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								| rethaw | 
								|  | July 20, 2013, 06:33:02 PM |  | 
 
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								|  | July 20, 2013, 06:33:28 PM |  | 
 
 Bought 3 of 'em based on Dave's recommendation.  Anyone have any idea when they might actually be shipping? |  
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								| Trongersoll | 
								|  | July 20, 2013, 06:34:09 PM |  | 
 
 We can only buy with bitcoin? is this a different site than the kit sales are on? i had to make a new account. |  
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								| bearsworth | 
								|  | July 20, 2013, 07:04:19 PM |  | 
 
 You won't gain anything if it ships november to be honest, i wish they had lowered prices to be competitive. |  
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								| bkpduke | 
								|  | July 20, 2013, 07:14:01 PM |  | 
 
 If they ship in Nov, and stay at the current price of $325, then people MIGHT ROI of 10%.  Tops. |  
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								| bearsworth | 
								|  | July 20, 2013, 07:17:16 PM |  | 
 
 i don't get how you got those figures lol. what time frame are you looking at. like 1 year +? |  
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								|  | July 20, 2013, 10:34:05 PM |  | 
 
 Just playing with the numbers assuming USB is used with a laptop, and a conservative $85/btc rate.  Doesn't look good.. won't even break even till next year? |  
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								| jspielberg | 
								|  | July 20, 2013, 10:37:35 PM |  | 
 
 $100 per device seems like a good price... and still profitable as the bulk chips are $20 each in October. |  
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								| bkpduke | 
								|  | July 20, 2013, 10:57:58 PM |  | 
 
 i don't get how you got those figures lol. what time frame are you looking at. like 1 year +?
 Easy, go here:http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/ Change Difficulty Increase/Month to 55% (the base 35% is not realistic and even 55% when most ASICs are hitting is VERY optimistic). It gets pretty nasty pretty quick.  This is not a device that will ever pay for itself. BUT, if you are buying it for the novelty factor . . . or for eBay flipping, then carry on.    |  
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								| senseless | 
								|  | July 21, 2013, 02:02:39 AM |  | 
 
 Doesn't look good.. won't even break even till next year?
 
 
 How do you figure 70Watts of power usage from a port that only supplies 4.5Watts??? |  
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								|  | July 21, 2013, 02:03:57 AM |  | 
 
 How do you figure 70Watts of power usage from a port that only supplies 4.5Watts???
 
 
 
 I assumed it needed to run with a laptop plugged in.   |  
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								| senseless | 
								|  | July 21, 2013, 02:04:56 AM |  | 
 
 You won't gain anything if it ships november to be honest, i wish they had lowered prices to be competitive.
 I wish the chip prices were lower so we could be competitive   |  
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