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July 03, 2011, 10:36:11 AM
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Hrmmmm.....as mentioned previously the usability problems remain until the client is at a stage where the public will embraced it.

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The Comprehension Gap
Watch all the troll videos on youtube and one thing quickly becomes clear - People do not have a comprehension of bitcoin as a publicly shared and verified cryptological ledger! These people don't have a fucking clue!

Now you can get all up on your high horse and call em stupid, but the fact is that we still haven't communicated the nature of our technology here in simple terms that the every day layman can understand, and as long as this is the case, Bitcoin will remain a divisive subject which does absolutely nothing for the further of bitcoin! 


Before we go selling a product, how about first we document and explain just what the hell we are selling!

Pfft, Sales guys.....Operations FTW! Wink
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July 03, 2011, 10:40:12 AM
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sadly i didn't read all the pages of comments Tongue we may be better off getting the people that make southpark to have bitcoins in an episode, they would probably bash it, but as they say 'their is no such thing as bad publicity'. though we still need better 'stuff' before we can really sell bitcoin to the masses.

Look up "south park" and "space cash".

It's pretty good.
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July 03, 2011, 10:40:46 AM
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Hrmmmm.....as mentioned previously the usability problems remain until the client is at a stage where the public will embraced it.

Also:
The Comprehension Gap
Watch all the troll videos on youtube and one thing quickly becomes clear - People do not have a comprehension of bitcoin as a publicly shared and verified cryptological ledger! These people don't have a fucking clue!

Now you can get all up on your high horse and call em stupid, but the fact is that we still haven't communicated the nature of our technology here in simple terms that the every day layman can understand, and as long as this is the case, Bitcoin will remain a divisive subject which does absolutely nothing for the further of bitcoin!  


Before we go selling a product, how about first we document and explain just what the hell we are selling!

Pfft, Sales guys.....Operations FTW! Wink

So your saying we need a trusted famous person to make a statement about how they use and trust bitcoin? I vote for Remi Gaillard and LulzSec! and maby Notch... Gabe...hmmm who else? BENDER!

edit: i found a real tool http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ko5lOc4nsac please ban him from life...

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July 03, 2011, 11:13:32 AM
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Hrmmmm.....as mentioned previously the usability problems remain until the client is at a stage where the public will embraced it.

Also:
The Comprehension Gap
Watch all the troll videos on youtube and one thing quickly becomes clear - People do not have a comprehension of bitcoin as a publicly shared and verified cryptological ledger! These people don't have a fucking clue!

Now you can get all up on your high horse and call em stupid, but the fact is that we still haven't communicated the nature of our technology here in simple terms that the every day layman can understand, and as long as this is the case, Bitcoin will remain a divisive subject which does absolutely nothing for the further of bitcoin!  


Before we go selling a product, how about first we document and explain just what the hell we are selling!

Pfft, Sales guys.....Operations FTW! Wink

So your saying we need a trusted famous person to make a statement about how they use and trust bitcoin? I vote for Remi Gaillard and LulzSec! and maby Notch... Gabe...hmmm who else? BENDER!

edit: i found a real tool http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ko5lOc4nsac please ban him from life...
No, I didn't say anything about a famous person.

I am saying that the underlying fundamentals of how the system actually works is not being communicated in a clear and concise manner that *everyone* can understand.

If you look at most of the anti-bitcoin videos it quickly becomes clear that these people think bitcoins exist as some kind of unit that can be pushed around when in fact the system works as a public record that recognizes what quantity you possess based on your public key and only verifies your right to spend on the basis of your private key.

If we can't communicate the exact nature of what we are advocating, then what the fuck is the point of advocacy in the first place!

The video that explains bitcoin on weusecoins, briefly touches of this by explaining the signing of bitcoins to your recipients address, but doesn't go far enough.

Put it this way, Toyota don't simply sell the Prius as just a car, they sell it as a hybrid petrol/electric car that stores energy for driving as you drive with resulting higher mileage. Apple don't sell the iPhone as just a phone, they show you it's workings to communicate how it will empower you and yet still manage to keep it simple.

This is how it is, we either get our message straight and market it as such.

Or we don't, the potential user never gets it, and as a result we are worse off for it. We can only achieve mass market penetration by having it possible that people can share the idea in simple communicable terms meaning that our revolutionary technology can become viral in everyday conversation.......or bitcoin can remain the currency of early adopters and geeks.
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July 03, 2011, 11:16:19 AM
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Hrmmmm.....as mentioned previously the usability problems remain until the client is at a stage where the public will embraced it.

Also:
The Comprehension Gap
Watch all the troll videos on youtube and one thing quickly becomes clear - People do not have a comprehension of bitcoin as a publicly shared and verified cryptological ledger! These people don't have a fucking clue!

Now you can get all up on your high horse and call em stupid, but the fact is that we still haven't communicated the nature of our technology here in simple terms that the every day layman can understand, and as long as this is the case, Bitcoin will remain a divisive subject which does absolutely nothing for the further of bitcoin!  


Before we go selling a product, how about first we document and explain just what the hell we are selling!

Pfft, Sales guys.....Operations FTW! Wink

So your saying we need a trusted famous person to make a statement about how they use and trust bitcoin? I vote for Remi Gaillard and LulzSec! and maby Notch... Gabe...hmmm who else? BENDER!

edit: i found a real tool http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ko5lOc4nsac please ban him from life...
No, I didn't say anything about a famous person.

I am saying that the underlying fundamentals of how the system actually works is not being communicated in a clear and concise manner that *everyone* can understand.

If you look at most of the anti-bitcoin videos it quickly becomes clear that these people think bitcoins exist as some kind of unit that can be pushed around when in fact the system works as a public record that recognizes what quantity you possess based on your public key and only verifies your right to spend on the basis of your private key.

If we can't communicate the exact nature of what we are advocating, then what the fuck is the point of advocacy in the first place!

The video that explains bitcoin on weusecoins, briefly touches of this by explaining the signing of bitcoins to your recipients address, but doesn't go far enough.

Put it this way, Toyota don't simply sell the Prius as just a car, they sell it as a hybrid petrol/electric car that stores energy for driving as you drive with resulting higher mileage. Apple don't sell the iPhone as just a phone, they show you it's workings to communicate how it will empower you and yet still manage to keep it simple.

This is how it is, we either get our message straight and market it as such.

Or we don't, the potential user never gets it, and as a result we are worse off for it. We can only achieve mass market penetration by having it possible that people can share the idea in simple communicable terms meaning that our revolutionary technology can become viral in everyday conversation.......or bitcoin can remain the currency of early adopters and geeks.

educating the public...were doomed...

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July 03, 2011, 12:37:16 PM
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educating the public...were doomed...

Not at all, a difficult task but not an impossible one. The vast majority of the public only have a enough approximation of how a plane flies, yet that is enough to engender trust to fly on one. In a way bitcoin is similar, the absolute trust in the veracity of the technology is a must, but it is more then achievable to communicate this given we can find a medium to do so.

 
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July 03, 2011, 02:41:58 PM
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BITCOIN

Now 0.3.23 beta!  Looking for suckers who will support the market value of a digital commodity that has little to no use, generated by nerds with GPU farms!

Secure currency now featuring no real-world uses and plaintext wallet file!
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July 03, 2011, 09:04:58 PM
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Wow.    You new people in the forum have become such cynics....    That's sad.

Anyway...


My vision of what the commercial would NOT be about:

  • bitcoin as an investment / it would not mention that at all / not at all
  • political or philosophical benefits of bitcoin / again, no mention at all

My vision of what the commercial WOULD be about:

  • easy to use
  • no transaction fees
  • transactions that can't bounce or incur chargebacks
  • no need for bank approval
  • you can start using bitcoin within seconds with no technical skills necessary
  • the world's first decentralized currency
  • the world's first currency with a limited supply, yet extremely divisible

On the topic of Facebook, I am working on a simple, yet brilliant   Wink  project there too....   I'll post about that soon.

do you have a time frame for us?
I'm sure everyone will want to know a few weeks in advance before it airs
I for one will want to buy a few more bitcoins right before  Tongue

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July 05, 2011, 11:27:45 AM
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I am wondering how that is anything other but the most obvious thing I've ever seen.
If it was so obvious, dinosaur corporations such as Nokia and Microsoft wouldn't be languishing.
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July 05, 2011, 12:09:21 PM
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I was thinking about how to make an analogy for bitcoin without mentioning cryptography and whatnot, but it's rather hard… Glass deposit boxes where everyone can see the contents, but no one knows who holds the key? Hrm…

Also, do let me know when this will be aired. I'd love to buy in before that Smiley

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July 05, 2011, 01:32:22 PM
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People who buy things on infomercials are not the type who will be interested in Bitcoin.  Infomercials are associated with snake oil products and telling people to get involved in an internet commodity is a sure way to get educated people uninterested. What is the selling point, if not ideology? "Register on a Bitcoin exchange today and you can transfer funds from a Dwolla account - which you will need to sign up for - and transfer money from your bank account so you buy Bitcoins and buy things on Amazon - well, sort of. All for a low fee!" Why not just use a credit card?

 The best thing we can do right now is get certain "underground" geek product providers - VPNs, seedboxes, etc - to accept Bitcoins. The first ones that do will quite a few extra customers.

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