VEGA 64 mining FREE WISDOM

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NTool ROCKS!!!

i retasked the 8 vegas to ETN

no changes on my driver settings 17.11.1
no changes to registry tables

i set these values in NTool for all 8 Vega:

CPU ST6 1212
CPU ST6 VOLT 890
CPU ST7 1408
CPU ST7 VOLT 890
MEM P3 1100
MEM P3 VOLT 870
FAN MIN 2500
FAN MAX 4900
TARGET TEMP 75
ACCOUSTIC 0
MAX TEMP 85
POWER TARGET 0

diasbled/enabled gpus in device manager

started nanopool ELECTRONEUM claymore miner (done the edit with my details already)

total speed 9800H/s
using only 1250W !!!!!!!!

will be doing the regedit next to attempt stated goal

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Norway has an abundance of tall sharp valleys and running water and has invested heavily into hydroelectric power
there is an oversupply for the 5.5 million residents even if its wasted and STATNET sells it to Germany and oher European countries
the oil money (25% of European demand) is separate
i have lived in a few countries around the globe and this one takes the biscuit for quality of living in the western world

Dude my 5 bios flashed Vega56 cards do 9850.

lol, read on it gets a lot better!!!

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here is a little snipet i have not seen anywhere but noticed after watching the two miners run simultaneously on nanopool etn.eu1 server on the same house router same outgoing connection

i seem to be having more luck, meaning a higher calculated hash rate = more shares found, when setting one miner(blue) on etn.eu1 and the other(red) on etn.eu2

i dont know if this is relevant to other pools but on nanopool it seems to make a difference, at least for me earning approx

1200ETN/day

dont like how the ETN trading order book looks like though............

[RIGED]

boost HBM2 to 1200MHz

How to unlock the 1107mhz HBM2 cap on Vega64

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2550962.new#new

[R0mi]

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i do have a question for those experienced in using power splitter adapter cables from a VGA 8 pin to 2x8 (so i can remove the EVGA1000 PSU)
various people on the net claim that they cause electrical noise and should not be used
are you using them on a VEGA? if so whats your take on the matter?

thnx

ps i bought 10 on/off switches for $4 to replace the bare wires im currently using in favour of a more modern look hahahaha

I use VGA splitters on Vega and no issues.  But I also don't have any problem mixing power supplies on the same rig, so I am not sure what you are doing.  So long as you are not drawing above 240w through each card, and you shouldn't if you use OverDriveNTool and Reg mods, I don't think it will present a problem.

The 6 pin VGA to dual 6+2 VGA cables are nice (the add-on adapters work fine as well), especially if you are using something like a HP server PSU (1500w common slot) and a breakout board.

[aakriti]

I am very much curious about mining. The information provided in this thread are very valuable for me. Your experience is guideline to me. I am using Coinpot website for mining Bitcoin and altcoin on my laptop.

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i do have a question for those experienced in using power splitter adapter cables from a VGA 8 pin to 2x8 (so i can remove the EVGA1000 PSU)
various people on the net claim that they cause electrical noise and should not be used
are you using them on a VEGA? if so whats your take on the matter?

thnx

ps i bought 10 on/off switches for $4 to replace the bare wires im currently using in favour of a more modern look hahahaha

I use VGA splitters on Vega and no issues.  But I also don't have any problem mixing power supplies on the same rig, so I am not sure what you are doing.  So long as you are not drawing above 240w through each card, and you shouldn't if you use OverDriveNTool and Reg mods, I don't think it will present a problem.

The 6 pin VGA to dual 6+2 VGA cables are nice (the add-on adapters work fine as well), especially if you are using something like a HP server PSU (1500w common slot) and a breakout board.

thnx for the response, i needed to hear this as connecting 6 Vega with risers equals to 18 connections
with 8 to 6+2x2 adapters i can use one EVGA1600 to power all from its total 9 VGA out ports
i believe the only consideration is having the same or bigger calliber cabling on the adapter to not cause resistance thus heat

yea im using the 1100 reg file with Ntool runing at 218W/GPU incl mobo and screen
(tests with the 1200 reg file shot my Wattage to max on all cards over 320W/GPU, need more time for trial+error)

the PSU debate rages on lol, im just cautious to have the same PSU on the riser as card
i suppose exaclty the same PSUs used in synch can be mixed as they produce the same frequency voltage

thnx again

[R0mi]

I use VGA splitters on Vega and no issues.  But I also don't have any problem mixing power supplies on the same rig, so I am not sure what you are doing.  So long as you are not drawing above 240w through each card, and you shouldn't if you use OverDriveNTool and Reg mods, I don't think it will present a problem.

The 6 pin VGA to dual 6+2 VGA cables are nice (the add-on adapters work fine as well), especially if you are using something like a HP server PSU (1500w common slot) and a breakout board.

thnx for the response, i needed to hear this as connecting 6 Vega with risers equals to 18 connections
with 8 to 6+2x2 adapters i can use one EVGA1600 to power all from its total 9 VGA out ports
i believe the only consideration is having the same or bigger calliber cabling on the adapter to not cause resistance thus heat

yea im using the 1100 reg file with Ntool runing at 218W/GPU incl mobo and screen
(tests with the 1200 reg file shot my Wattage to max on all cards over 320W/GPU, need more time for trial+error)

the PSU debate rages on lol, im just cautious to have the same PSU on the riser as card
i suppose exaclty the same PSUs used in synch can be mixed as they produce the same frequency voltage

thnx again

Yes, pay attention to the wire gauge, I agree.

One setup that I have used on a number of rigs:  HP PSU powering 5 or 6 video cards and risers; ATX power supply powering the motherboard and maybe 1-3 other video cards and their risers.  Works very well for me even though completely different power supplies.  Cheaper alternative.  YMMV.

[TheRealSelector]

Why would you mine ethereum….? Mine something more profitable and exchange for ETH on exchanges….

[Servfox]

Why would you mine ethereum….? Mine something more profitable and exchange for ETH on exchanges….

He’s addressed that multiple times.

[Servfox]

Its no surprise that I can’t find vega’s anywhere 

Question 1: does anyone know when a new batch is going to hit the market so I can plan accordingly? I’ve emailed a few companies but no one is revealing anything.

Question 2: can I piece together a rig of different 56’s and 64’s? I found a few in single quantities and was thinking about doing 2 64’s and 2 56’s. They would all be different aftermarket models. Would I run into any issues setting these up?

Question 3: (wishful thinking) can anyone spare me the misery and private message me a source where I can grab 4 vega 64’s? I’ve turned the internet upside down looking for them 

[RIGED]

i certainly feel vindicated
as mentioned above there are no Vegas to be found apart from a few private sales on ebay for double price, saw 1 single card available on amazon for $1400

im quite certain by now that i was correct in my hunch about these specific GPU's and why i went the extra mile and buck to build two 6 card rigs with them

and yes, for those that read the first page and last only (missing the meat of the matter in the between pages) i was mining ETN at 24000H/s for a week. Today i turned 1 rig over to Sumokoin, as an old investor diversification is my friend and i would like to own as many different coins as possible although ETN stills seems the most promising if they are able to come through on releasing the app for mobile mining (which is a waste of time at 50-100h/s but most people dont know such details so the hype is enough to drive the price to Mars)

i also bought a couple of shit coins today, got 4.5mil rabbit coin and 100k Tittie coin, i know they are worthless and i probably lost 1.5days of ETN mining (what they cost) but hey, rabbit was 4satoshis and tittie coin has the standard red blooded male concept behind it, so just for shits and laughs i thought id vault these two mistakes

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been messing around with the now unlocked 1200MHZ HBM2, but still cant get it to be stable
got an additional 140H per card on same settings but uped CPU to 1448 and MEM to 1120, seemed stable for about 3hrs and then froze (gave me a headache after reconfiguring the gpus and drivers, lost a little mining time), one thing i did notice was the power usage actually went down about 200W with these changes (weird, faster for less power???)

if you are already using the 1100 Hellæ reg table all you need to do is go to the reg folder of each Vega (path mentioned before) double click to edit the pp_PhmSoftPowerPlayTable, go down about a third of the table to row 00B8 (after 00B0) follow the sequence 01,00,06,6C,B0 and click on 6C change to C0 and next click on B0 change to D4, exit and do the same for all cards, (or download the unlocked SoC reg table ed from the link provided above) and now you can go over the 1107MHz MEM clock cap all the way to 1200 if you can find the correct settings for each specific GPU as they have different tolerences, and if you do please let me know
i take no credit for the above info, it can be found in the op thread mantioned above (all apart from the row identifier in the hex table i had to figure that out myself)

this unlock seems that whilst  running the exact same settings as before (thus stability) gives a little extra speed to all GPUs anyway without any further adjustments

ok, i will let this out the bag...... it seems one can turn the VEGA 8Gb HBM2 into 2x4 thus running 2 threads at the same time thus doubling the hash rate (2000H/s) thus 1 VEGA works as 2
so what would happen if one was knowledgeable anough to turn the 16Gb of the VEGA FRONTIER and FE edition into 4x4 thus running 4 threads at the same time thus quadrupling the hash rate (4000H/s) thus 1 VEGA works as 4

oh crap,  there goes the Frontiers from the market too, maybe this thread is counterproductive for people like me

enough for now, back to busting the central bankster criminal cartel

Happy New Year all

[Dlikrot]

Riged, when you find and reveal the secrets of this card, please share it with a fellow Norwegian x)
Make it work as four and we start a farm together haha

..and by all means... the rest of the community ^^

[STT]

Its no surprise that I can’t find vega’s anywhere 

Question 1: does anyone know when a new batch is going to hit the market so I can plan accordingly? I’ve emailed a few companies but no one is revealing anything.

Question 2: can I piece together a rig of different 56’s and 64’s? I found a few in single quantities and was thinking about doing 2 64’s and 2 56’s. They would all be different aftermarket models. Would I run into any issues setting these up?

A new batch of AMD Vega cards wont be out until they alter the production to 12nm and revise the overall card spec slightly.   Similar to what was done with 480 and 580.   I have heard the new card would run less power and also less heat, that has some benefits but Im not sure it would be faster overall especially for mining which is just about the memory speed alot of the time and it'll be the same memory so far as I know.

Maybe the summer for those and meanwhile you have the AIB card partners releasing their versions of Vega but these are just fancy versions and not really any use to a miner who doesnt care about noise.


you can mix 56 and 64 from what I've read

[P00P135]

Its no surprise that I can’t find vega’s anywhere 

Question 1: does anyone know when a new batch is going to hit the market so I can plan accordingly? I’ve emailed a few companies but no one is revealing anything.

Question 2: can I piece together a rig of different 56’s and 64’s? I found a few in single quantities and was thinking about doing 2 64’s and 2 56’s. They would all be different aftermarket models. Would I run into any issues setting these up?

A new batch of AMD Vega cards wont be out until they alter the production to 12nm and revise the overall card spec slightly.   Similar to what was done with 480 and 580.   I have heard the new card would run less power and also less heat, that has some benefits but Im not sure it would be faster overall especially for mining which is just about the memory speed alot of the time and it'll be the same memory so far as I know.

Maybe the summer for those and meanwhile you have the AIB card partners releasing their versions of Vega but these are just fancy versions and not really any use to a miner who doesnt care about noise.


you can mix 56 and 64 from what I've read

Thought the new Vegas would scrap HMB2 and just use DDR5/6.

[STT]

I should whip out a slide here to show all the various Vega types I havent got time to find that but my guess is the 2nd revision of present PC gfx cards will still use HBM2 because that is the superior choice.    However also there is other lesser Vega chips to be released that will cut back on features, will fit into laptops and will be using other memory types.   I also read of Vega to replace rx580 in the end, it would make sense to use the cheapest memory there



dont know the 7nm part is true for vega, navi is.   Just a slide I saw now.  Vega 24 will be a gpu within a Intel cpu apparently

[RIGED]

thanx for the info STT,

i dont understand these morons, why the hell are they trying to fix something that is sold out in hours after production?

got word that we will have a fresh batch of Vegas here in Norway by beggining of February 2018, dont know if this applies to the rest of the world

Riged, when you find and reveal the secrets of this card, please share it with a fellow Norwegian x)
Make it work as four and we start a farm together haha

..and by all means... the rest of the community ^^

im in the process buddy, looking for cheap accomodation to house the farm, raising funds has not been particularly difficult due to current factual performance success of around $3000 per month on ETN using 12 Vegas on rocket boost giving 24.000H/s average

Godt Nytt År

HAPPY NEW YEAR ALL

[billhinge]

i certainly feel vindicated
as mentioned above there are no Vegas to be found apart from a few private sales on ebay for double price, saw 1 single card available on amazon for $1400

im quite certain by now that i was correct in my hunch about these specific GPU's and why i went the extra mile and buck to build two 6 card rigs with them

and yes, for those that read the first page and last only (missing the meat of the matter in the between pages) i was mining ETN at 24000H/s for a week. Today i turned 1 rig over to Sumokoin, as an old investor diversification is my friend and i would like to own as many different coins as possible although ETN stills seems the most promising if they are able to come through on releasing the app for mobile mining (which is a waste of time at 50-100h/s but most people dont know such details so the hype is enough to drive the price to Mars)

i also bought a couple of shit coins today, got 4.5mil rabbit coin and 100k Tittie coin, i know they are worthless and i probably lost 1.5days of ETN mining (what they cost) but hey, rabbit was 4satoshis and tittie coin has the standard red blooded male concept behind it, so just for shits and laughs i thought id vault these two mistakes

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been messing around with the now unlocked 1200MHZ HBM2, but still cant get it to be stable
got an additional 140H per card on same settings but uped CPU to 1448 and MEM to 1120, seemed stable for about 3hrs and then froze (gave me a headache after reconfiguring the gpus and drivers, lost a little mining time), one thing i did notice was the power usage actually went down about 200W with these changes (weird, faster for less power???)

if you are already using the 1100 Hellæ reg table all you need to do is go to the reg folder of each Vega (path mentioned before) double click to edit the pp_PhmSoftPowerPlayTable, go down about a third of the table to row 00B8 (after 00B0) follow the sequence 01,00,06,6C,B0 and click on 6C change to C0 and next click on B0 change to D4, exit and do the same for all cards, (or download the unlocked SoC reg table ed from the link provided above) and now you can go over the 1107MHz MEM clock cap all the way to 1200 if you can find the correct settings for each specific GPU as they have different tolerences, and if you do please let me know
i take no credit for the above info, it can be found in the op thread mantioned above (all apart from the row identifier in the hex table i had to figure that out myself)

this unlock seems that whilst  running the exact same settings as before (thus stability) gives a little extra speed to all GPUs anyway without any further adjustments

ok, i will let this out the bag...... it seems one can turn the VEGA 8Gb HBM2 into 2x4 thus running 2 threads at the same time thus doubling the hash rate (2000H/s) thus 1 VEGA works as 2
so what would happen if one was knowledgeable anough to turn the 16Gb of the VEGA FRONTIER and FE edition into 4x4 thus running 4 threads at the same time thus quadrupling the hash rate (4000H/s) thus 1 VEGA works as 4

oh crap,  there goes the Frontiers from the market too, maybe this thread is counterproductive for people like me

enough for now, back to busting the central bankster criminal cartel

Happy New Year all

Don't know if its the blockchain drivers or the miners but the FE only seems to use 8GB in mining which explains why XMR-Stak only allows two lots of 2016 threads



sidenote:
interestingly I wasn't running GPU-Z and was running fine on 4050+ H/s for 2x FE, soon as I launched the gpu-z monitor to take the above pic,  hashrate dropped down to 1700H/s each. hadn't noticed that before but I don't generally run it once I get a stable config

[wolverine5pl]

need help. my two vegas mining fine.
got 1080ti,so i set up everything. 1080ti hashing fine.
but when 1080ti is in rig and I soon i start miner for vegas system freezes and restarts. any clue why?
if i pull out 1080 its working fine. tried 1080 on pci riser. on motherboard everytime same happens

now when i go to wattman settings - same thing system restart. WHAT THE HECK

[STT]

You need to mention your full spec, but I would put all your components into a PSU calculator and see if its well below the rating for your PSU.    Vega can draw alot of power for a moment even if it sits below 150w most of the time.

I imagine its something along those lines.   A PSU loses about 10% of its capacity for each year its been used also.  Maybe try disconnect power cables, or rotate from spare stock just to be sure.   Obviously can try a new OS install to rule that out.


I find VEGA very weird in general.  I dont know if Im seeing things but its doing 49MH for Skunk.   I lowered it from 240w on GPU-z and its now down to 78w showing the same hash, I dont know what its changed to drop and still keep the same hash.    Reminds me of people who reported clocking 2000 mhz core and actually it was the card false reporting, but hashing I should know.  
In this case the fan speed also halved and temps are lower, it would seem its dropped volts by itself.  I have also seen it report 700w usage as a spike, check your highest on the counter and anyone might see similar

[CreamyG31337]

Nice thread, I have just 5 VEGA 56 in an ASUS Mining Expert rig for now. I appreciate the info on whatever that overheating component is on the motherboard. Stuff like that is a major source of hair loss! I'm sure some of the stuff you've mentioned is just 'best practice' or 'common sense' and even 'paranoia', but we need to keep all these things in mind when messing with VEGAs and 20 slot motherboards and crappy blockchain drivers...
I've noticed a lot of incorrect assumptions and entire guides/walkthroughs with incorrect information because miners are not understanding really anything about this hobby from the operating system, hardware, right through to the mining software and coins. Please just take everything said with a grain of salt -- do your own tests and verify things are behaving as expected.
I've burnt out a VEGA before just by leaving it plugged into the riser without the pci express / usb thing connected.  I heard it make a cracking sound and realized it was cooking itself a bit too late. Why would it pull power and burn itself out without even trying to spin a fan? Ask powercolor or whoever made that shitty bios. It didn't destroy the card completely, but it never performed stably at any mining after that incident.
AMD tip: make yourself a .reg file to disable the ULPS and Crossfire settings for like 10 cards at one click (21 if you have the mining expert). It won't hurt anything to run it on non-existent cards or schedule it to run (regedit -s file.reg) although I haven't gone this far myself. But it's true sometimes you will need to do this on cards you haven't touched because windows decides to mess with the drivers.
VEGA tip: Don't plug your screen into a VEGA card -- it will probably lose about 200 h/s on cryptonight and unplugging your screen again won't necessarily fix that. It often makes it much much worse. You might have to reboot. Either use another card for display or just use remote desktop or something to manage it. I ASSUME using a dummy plug will cause this problem too.
AMD tip: The order of your cards in the registry control set folders is not necessarily the same as the order of the cards in your favorite overclocking tool or the device manager. If you have all the same cards, or you use DDU methodically, or if you've never have a loose cable before, sure, it might work like this. Don't rely on it. Any time windows wants to reinstall a driver it leaves the old folder and just makes a new one. Try to verify what you're doing by listening for the fan speed change and keep your cards numbered with physical labels so you don't mix them up.
AMD tip: atikmdag-patcher.exe should be renamed to atikmdag-patcher-bios.exe first so it only fucks with ONE dll file. What it's doing is hazardous and not easily reversible should it ever fail. Windows can decide that these patched dll files, lacking a valid digital signature, will not be loaded. You can end up with a bunch of 0-byte AMD dll files in your system folder and/or the inability to run any programs including the amd driver installer or possibly even ddu. If this ever happens, you need to delete the symbolic links to the patched files from your system32 folder and then copy virgin dll files from the extracted amd driver package to system32. Don't reboot until reinstalling the drivers again, or corrupted files might be restored again by Windows.
VEGA tip: Cast XMR does some weird shit with hash rates dropping for no apparent reason after a while that can be really really hard to fix. The only thing that worked for me is to take all the non-vega cards out of the system. Having other cards in there mining other stuff or even trying to help the vegas is probably a bad idea. I don't know why, but they seem to mess up the thread synchronization in cast. It's running 2 threads per VEGA, offset by a perfectly optimized amount of time to result in the best utilization of the card's resources. Anything fighting cast for resources throws a wrench into this and will result in losing 10% hash rate until you restart cast. Don't ask me why the dev can't fix it -- I've mentioned it twice and I'm sure countless others have too.