AllahCoin

[nawazish1]

alhamdlilah nice speech brother, ramadhan mubarak, ive still got an hour and a half to go, still need to pray asr

I forgot this. Ramadhan Mubarak to all the Muslims in this thread. I think this coin is just taking the test of our patience. The real agenda behind this coin what I think is to promote cryptos by using the name of Allah. This way the whole world will start knowing about cryptos.

[BitcoinFX]

I forgot this. Ramadhan Mubarak to all the Muslims in this thread. I think this coin is just taking the test of our patience. The real agenda behind this coin what I think is to promote cryptos by using the name of Allah. This way the whole world will start knowing about cryptos.

Promoting crypto-currency for evil I cannot agree with. Promoting crypto-currency for good I can agree with.

Best wishes

[Mike Christ]

World peace maybe a wishful ideology, but I've already stated that Muslims and followers of the other major religions alike are actually required to be Tolerant and Accepting, both towards their respective faiths and beliefs as well as each other.

This is not an easy topic and people are entitled to their opinions. A peaceful co-existence is the right way for all humanity. That is all I really meant by the above sentiment.

There is no law of science nor any reason in all of physical existence that literally requires any man, no matter his religion, or government, no matter its nation, to be tolerant and accepting, or frankly anything, because a book, or a piece of paper, has said so.  We see this hypocrisy in this very thread; there is no such thing as tolerance and acceptance of homosexuality when it comes to followers of the Muslim faith.  Christians, whatever their book says, feel the same about homosexuality; Christians don't even want mosques to be built in their communities.  And of course we can say, "Well they're not true Muslims/Christians if they do that," but people still (and by that I mean, almost all religious people) call themselves as such, each and every day; they separate themselves from normal society by referring to themselves as the followers of God, a figure who lives and thrives in books and imagination alone.  If a book, or a piece of paper does not stop a religious man from being intolerant and unaccepting of another group; if a book, or a piece of paper, does not stop a religious man from killing another man; if a book, or a piece of paper, does not stop a religious man from stealing and lying, then we should not proclaim that it is so.  Because it isn't.  There is no requirement valid in the physical world that would stop a Christian soldier from killing another Christian soldier of an opposing nation, no matter what his book or piece of paper says.

If it is world peace you strive for, it will not be found, not now, and not ever, through religion, or the assimilation of all religion into one large religion, or by the co-existance of many individual religions, for there will always be those who follow and those who don't; there will always be the distinction between these men, and those men, and it's very easy to forget who's human when feelings are hurt and group X has to die because they insulted group Y.  There is but one method to achieving peace, and it is by admission that you are not different from any other man.  Religion is the admission that you are, in fact, different from that other religion, or that Atheist; perhaps your religion assumes men and women are never to be seen as equals, for that would disturb the supposed peace; perhaps your religion asks you to put your God before everything you do, separating you from your fellow man, for that is the way to achieve peace; but if there's anything we've learned from the past several thousand years, it's that by proclaiming "Well I'm of Nation/Religion X" is an invitation for Nation/Religion Y to divide you, a fellow human being, or for you to divide yourself, from the rest of humanity.

Nothing has created more war than religion and nationalism (arguably the same thing.)  World peace is not wishful thinking.  But the idea that you'll achieve it through self-segregation is indeed a pipe dream.  Truly, if you care, even a tiny little bit about world peace, and not just saying it to look good, or because people who follow your religion like to say it and so you do, too, then, in the very least, consider what I'm saying, for there is no religion which may enlighten, but only man who may enlighten himself.

[ahmed_bodi]

believe as youd like to believe, and we shall believe as we like to believe. Seleme and nawazish understand what it means to be part of islam and thats one thing i wouldnt change for the world

[nawazish1]

believe as youd like to believe, and we shall believe as we like to believe. Seleme and nawazish understand what it means to be part of islam and thats one thing i wouldnt change for the world

+1

[nawazish1]

believe as youd like to believe, and we shall believe as we like to believe. Seleme and nawazish understand what it means to be part of islam and thats one thing i wouldnt change for the world

+1

I have no problem with your beliefs. It's when you decide that you refuse to be tolerant and accepting of others, to the point that you'll throw them in jail for who they are, is when I have a problem.

Why are you guys taking it as a religious problem no individual is allowed to punish any one in Islam. Unless he is the law enforcer. What you are saying is just like if you broke a rule of a country and you don't want any punishment. Why not people stop breaking laws in Islamic countries. Go and live where the things you do are supported by the country.

[BitcoinFX]

World peace maybe a wishful ideology, but I've already stated that Muslims and followers of the other major religions alike are actually required to be Tolerant and Accepting, both towards their respective faiths and beliefs as well as each other.

This is not an easy topic and people are entitled to their opinions. A peaceful co-existence is the right way for all humanity. That is all I really meant by the above sentiment.

There is no law of science nor any reason in all of physical existence that literally requires any man, no matter his religion, or government, no matter its nation, to be tolerant and accepting, or frankly anything, because a book, or a piece of paper, has said so.  We see this hypocrisy in this very thread; there is no such thing as tolerance and acceptance of homosexuality when it comes to followers of the Muslim faith.  Christians, whatever their book says, feel the same about homosexuality; Christians don't even want mosques to be built in their communities.  And of course we can say, "Well they're not true Muslims/Christians if they do that," but people still (and by that I mean, almost all religious people) call themselves as such, each and every day; they separate themselves from normal society by referring to themselves as the followers of God, a figure who lives and thrives in books and imagination alone.  If a book, or a piece of paper does not stop a religious man from being intolerant and unaccepting of another group; if a book, or a piece of paper, does not stop a religious man from killing another man; if a book, or a piece of paper, does not stop a religious man from stealing and lying, then we should not proclaim that it is so.  Because it isn't.  There is no requirement valid in the physical world that would stop a Christian soldier from killing another Christian soldier of an opposing nation, no matter what his book or piece of paper says.

If it is world peace you strive for, it will not be found, not now, and not ever, through religion, or the assimilation of all religion into one large religion, or by the co-existance of many individual religions, for there will always be those who follow and those who don't; there will always be the distinction between these men, and those men, and it's very easy to forget who's human when feelings are hurt and group X has to die because they insulted group Y.  There is but one method to achieving peace, and it is by admission that you are not different from any other man.  Religion is the admission that you are, in fact, different from that other religion, or that Atheist; perhaps your religion assumes men and women are never to be seen as equals, for that would disturb the supposed peace; perhaps your religion asks you to put your God before everything you do, separating you from your fellow man, for that is the way to achieve peace; but if there's anything we've learned from the past several thousand years, it's that by proclaiming "Well I'm of Nation/Religion X" is an invitation for Nation/Religion Y to divide you, a fellow human being, or for you to divide yourself, from the rest of humanity.

Nothing has created more war than religion and nationalism (arguably the same thing.)  World peace is not wishful thinking.  But the idea that you'll achieve it through self-segregation is indeed a pipe dream.  Truly, if you care, even a tiny little bit about world peace, and not just saying it to look good, or because people who follow your religion like to say it and so you do, too, then, in the very least, consider what I'm saying, for there is no religion which may enlighten, but only man who may enlighten himself.

I think I might of been misconstrued. I'm not seeking world peace through religion. I'm an Agnostic.

I've spoken with many Muslims who have stated that being tolerant and accepting of other peoples religions and faiths is their interpretation of parts of the Koran. It is not as such a requirement (loose choice of words by myself), but an interpretation of scripture, by some Muslims on how to be good Muslims. The same applies to Christians and the bible.

Yes. Religion and nationalism are responsible for many wars - perhaps our new social media style 'global village' will help us all learn lessons from our past during this continuing process of increasing globalization, which can be seen as problematic as the 'tribes' of the human race increasingly merge themselves together.

We should all look to enlighten and educate ourselves to be 'one world and one people', with extreme religious beliefs set to one side if not forgotten.

I personally do not endorse, mine or trade any crypto-currency of religious, existing nationalistic or purely of a political persuasion.

These are things that using Bitcoin and crypto in general will help to solve and to change. We are seeing the collapse of the global economy and even of nation states.

I look to a brighter future, but no utopian dream is for certain or even desirable. Surely the human race can eventually progress to something better than this capitalist mess and current dystopia ? A pessimist is never disappointed however.

[digitalindustry]

End of WWI was terrible against Germany and destroyed its honour
Thus they had all rights to do what they did during WWII instead of peacefully solving a situation that seemed shameful to them

almost correct, in my opinion  - They felt like they had no option, desperate and destroyed.

almost a "back to the wall" sort of situation ,or the situation that many of these confused young Terrorists feel,  this is why you see many similar policy's in Modern Israel .

The two nations history's are vastly different , but in the end , The government used fear to and for a purpose . {justified and/or unjustified} .

[jackjack]

believe as youd like to believe, and we shall believe as we like to believe. Seleme and nawazish understand what it means to be part of islam and thats one thing i wouldnt change for the world

+1

I have no problem with your beliefs. It's when you decide that you refuse to be tolerant and accepting of others, to the point that you'll throw them in jail for who they are, is when I have a problem.

Why are you guys taking it as a religious problem no individual is allowed to punish any one in Islam. Unless he is the law enforcer. What you are saying is just like if you broke a rule of a country and you don't want any punishment. Why not people stop breaking laws in Islamic countries. Go and live where the things you do are supported by the country.

Hitler could have said that to Jews or Stalin to the guys in gulags or Turks to the Armenians or Saddam to the Kurds.

[digitalindustry]

Wolf0

I have empathy for your side of the argument , but also take on another side of the argument -

I have no problem what so ever with any one that is gay , i certainly don't believe they should be put into jail etc, as per my previous statements about an "Equal Equation"

but, what/why is it that so many Homosexuals seem to have their cause hijacked for so many political purposes ?

I can only assume this is because Homosexuals feel that they have a cause to push, but when does that cause stop being for simple human rights, and start becoming something else? , also would you/we recognize if that was happening?

in many Religious derived nations , {see my previous comments} I can totally understand your points, but after that point where is the end point?  

[nawazish1]

believe as youd like to believe, and we shall believe as we like to believe. Seleme and nawazish understand what it means to be part of islam and thats one thing i wouldnt change for the world

+1

I have no problem with your beliefs. It's when you decide that you refuse to be tolerant and accepting of others, to the point that you'll throw them in jail for who they are, is when I have a problem.

Why are you guys taking it as a religious problem no individual is allowed to punish any one in Islam. Unless he is the law enforcer. What you are saying is just like if you broke a rule of a country and you don't want any punishment. Why not people stop breaking laws in Islamic countries. Go and live where the things you do are supported by the country.

Hitler could have said that to Jews or Stalin to the guys in gulags or Turks to the Armenians or Saddam to the Kurds.

I am not one of them then why are you complaining to all the Muslims. As in the previous posts Digitalindustry said that they people who do all this are low IQ people it has nothing to do with Islam.

[ahmed_bodi]

yaar, just leave it. they wont understand. People like him are brainwashed and can only see the bad, not the good

[nawazish1]

yaar, just leave it. they wont understand. People like him are brainwashed and can only see the bad, not the good

Yup you are right. They can't understand even a single word we say. OK guys good bye from my side keep this rubbish talk going. This talk is going nowwhere.

[pheaonix]

One World. One People. Peace.  

This is nothing short of genocidal ideology.

World peace maybe a wishful ideology, but I've already stated that Muslims and followers of the other major religions alike are actually required to be Tolerant and Accepting, both towards their respective faiths and beliefs as well as each other.

This is not an easy topic and people are entitled to their opinions. A peaceful co-existence is the right way for all humanity. That is all I really meant by the above sentiment. As in togetherness.

sunni vs shiite

[Schrankwand]

yaar, just leave it. they wont understand. People like him are brainwashed and can only see the bad, not the good

Yup you are right. They can't understand even a single word we say. OK guys good bye from my side keep this rubbish talk going. This talk is going nowwhere.

"If your religious fundamentalists are idiots, maybe think about your religion's fundamentals."

Forgot where I read that.


People that talk about religious moderates usually forget that moderates are part of the same religion. If you compare a Jehovah's witness with a european protestant, this is possibly an idiotic comparison, but both still believe in god.


What you are asking us to see is the good in a belief, that to us is like believing in Santa Claus. For me, it is not understandable, apart from growing up with a religion, why anyone would say that Al'lah is their god, others are not. Same for Jahwe, Christian god, others.

All of you are atheists. You do not believe in the mighty Thor. You do not believe in the fist of Zeus. Both were there long before Islam. Does anyone of you believe in Ba'al? OR Zagan, Dantalion, Perseus?

In the countries that now embrace Islam, long gone are the days that people prayed to Marduk, Son of Ea. Near them, Anu and Enlil have been the source of prayer, while the Marduk prayers were also praying to Tiamat to forebode her chaos.

Aruond the 9th to 10th century, around 300 years after the prophet Muhammad was born and also died, you will find that the Song Dinasty in China was having people pray to the mighty Shuangdi, king of all gods. In Japan, the goddess Amaterasu o mi kami and Ameno Uzume were prayed to and believed to influence.


Christians, Muslims... are in fact Atheists against all of these gods, demigods and saints.


Although some of them lived in our own countries.




That is why I ask you: What do I have to understand? You are as much as an atheist as us, you just cannot admit it, since there is one god left. Had you been born in Southern China, you would probably be a buddhist. Had you been born in Nepal, you would probably be a Buddhist. We go one god further than others. And we ask that world wide, in every place of the world, human rights and their rights to be together as they wilt, shall be granted and honored.

We do not have to understand anyone's feelings. We respect everyone's religion as so far as that you are allowed to have it, shall never be persecuted for it and if someone wants to persecute you for your religion, we will stand in the way and die for your right to believe whatever you want, if necessary.

But we are also allowed to ridicule these beliefs. We are allowed to believe that what you believe is ridiculous. And everyone in the world, as human being, has the right for these religious feelings not to encroach on their private life. Keep your guidelines and barriers to yourself and those who are interested in them. Keep your guns where they are.

This is not an easy topic and people are entitled to their opinions. A peaceful co-existence is the right way for all humanity. That is all I really meant by the above sentiment. As in togetherness.

And it requires reason. For if we have to go beyond our pettiness by outsourcing our ethics and morals towards a book, a religious leader and take it back, we need to be truly acceptant of everyone's beliefs. And that means that we have the right to criticize, the right to ridicule and also the right to offend. We do NOT have the right to decide for others what lifestyle is good for them.

[Bitcoin.Greece]

Better start ImaginaryFriendsCoin .
I can't imagine in 2013 people still believe in that stuff...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mmskXXetcg
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_B0nI2Mg68

[Schrankwand]

I am not one of them then why are you complaining to all the Muslims. As in the previous posts Digitalindustry said that they people who do all this are low IQ people it has nothing to do with Islam

Nah, i have seen enough people that are intelligent that in fact have prejudice against gays. The problem comes always with the leadership. And if the leadership commands it this way, it will fall back to the lower echelons.

[film2240]

Doesn't seem bad, it is promoting a religion just as any other coin can be use to promote any other religion

It supports the Muslim Brotherhood, not Islam itself

I stumbled across this coin a while ago and the site I saw this on,mentioned that 10% of all mine coins go to the muslim brotherhood,which is not a group I'd like/want to support (because of their questionable motives/numerous other issues associated with them besides,extremism concerns.)

Religion and this group are separate things so bear that in mind

[Propulsion]

Doesn't seem bad, it is promoting a religion just as any other coin can be use to promote any other religion

It supports the Muslim Brotherhood, not Islam itself

I stumbled across this coin a while ago and the site I saw this on,mentioned that 10% of all mine coins go to the muslim brotherhood,which is not a group I'd like/want to support (because of their questionable motives/numerous other issues associated with them besides,extremism concerns.)

Religion and this group are separate things so bear that in mind

The last post here was September 13, 2013 Dude. You might of just created a whole new shitstorm.

[skorek]

guys what, he asked for my opinion i gave it, im not imprisoning anyone, And actually im pointing out how this thread and the people here make this forum look. Any of you surprised why crypto's arent exactly going places?

You agree with the law that says homosexuals must be thrown in jail. Your religion imposes this law. Therefore your religion is oppressive and harmful to homosexuals at the very least, no?

Someone should make HomoCoin for all the gay people.

Homocoin launch yesterday...

homocoin.org
homocoinfoundation.org