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Bumping.. still no refund received. I assume this is the case with everyone.
Confirmed no refund yet; patiently waiting My friends refund ticket was ignored they shipped the unit anyway. He was to stupid to read the newsletter properly and apparently Avalon's support tickets are useless. Avalon shipped a lot of units, and they have a lot of happy customers. On some orders things didn't work out - but the outrage, calling them BFL like, scammers, etc is way overstated. No, infact it is not overstated. Yifu has been caught out in blatant lies to investors, there is no excusing or rewording it. They stated they would not mine with clients equipment. They have been proven to mine with said equipment, regardless of the amount this statement is now a lie. The delays also appear to be fake / greatly exaggerated. let me summarize the flawed logic we have here: * Black can actually be white if you close your eyes.
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agibby5
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August 03, 2013, 03:13:01 AM |
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They are probably trying to mine with the newly built units to cover the refunds...
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batman, not crabman
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August 03, 2013, 09:21:39 AM |
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if (pissed off) then (begin vent) What refunds? If you submitted a support ticket (as you were told to by bitsyncom HIMSELF here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=236348.msg2515773#msg2515773) then your refund gets ignored. If you managed to get the newsletter and see the Google Docs link (Google Docs, really fucking professional guys) then you had 3 days to apply for said refund. 3 days. Even if you already asked for a refund through the fucking AVALON SUPPORT SITE. Not to mention it's been several weeks and I think only one person has received their refund. I know a lot of people got in, but a lot missed out too. Avalon has generally been a bit of a clusterfuck lately. This is no way to treat your customers. if (still fucking pissed off) loop else end vent Does anyone with a more level head then me know if there is any legal recourse? If the items were sold in the country I live in then the BS Avalon T&C's would be declared null by a court as they're against the law here. However internationally this becomes a bit of a grey area.
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August 03, 2013, 12:30:16 PM |
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Didnt someone state that he used the google docs refund form after the advertised timeframe and it still worked? I would try unless there is no tracking code yet.
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August 03, 2013, 01:54:45 PM |
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Didnt someone state that he used the google docs refund form after the advertised timeframe and it still worked? I would try unless there is no tracking code yet.
That would be me. I did it 1 day late, and my status still changed to refund processing.
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August 03, 2013, 02:19:47 PM |
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if (pissed off) then (begin vent) What refunds? If you submitted a support ticket (as you were told to by bitsyncom HIMSELF here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=236348.msg2515773#msg2515773) then your refund gets ignored. If you managed to get the newsletter and see the Google Docs link (Google Docs, really fucking professional guys) then you had 3 days to apply for said refund. 3 days. Even if you already asked for a refund through the fucking AVALON SUPPORT SITE. Not to mention it's been several weeks and I think only one person has received their refund. I know a lot of people got in, but a lot missed out too. Avalon has generally been a bit of a clusterfuck lately. This is no way to treat your customers. if (still fucking pissed off) loop else end vent Does anyone with a more level head then me know if there is any legal recourse? If the items were sold in the country I live in then the BS Avalon T&C's would be declared null by a court as they're against the law here. However internationally this becomes a bit of a grey area. I have been looking into some things that can be done legally. It also is a fact in the US that the T&C's are null due to some consumer protection in the USA according to my lawyer.
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batman, not crabman
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August 03, 2013, 11:51:05 PM |
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Good to hear. Thanks
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August 04, 2013, 02:47:28 AM |
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Why you´re refunding - I have been waiting for B3 three months and finally got DHL tracking numbers... maybe those Avalons will generate their price or no but at least I will learn and now I have KNC machines in order. Will they deliver in time or three months late? I hope no late, but lets´see. btc is just waiting and patience!
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August 04, 2013, 02:56:50 PM |
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Why you´re refunding - I have been waiting for B3 three months and finally got DHL tracking numbers... maybe those Avalons will generate their price or no but at least I will learn and now I have KNC machines in order. Will they deliver in time or three months late? I hope no late, but lets´see. btc is just waiting and patience!
Its an expensive toy only to learn mining hardware. Check out this website and let it calculate the bitcoin income instead usd: http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/If you think that at the time you get your miner you will be able to earn the spent bitcoins back in then youre fine. But i think that wont happen anymore.
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August 04, 2013, 07:40:35 PM |
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but at least I will learn and now I have KNC machines in order Buy a USB Eruptor to practice on then >_>
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August 05, 2013, 06:08:42 PM |
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August 06, 2013, 08:40:39 AM |
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bump for B3 refunds
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August 06, 2013, 09:11:21 AM |
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Still not a single refund from Avalon.
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August 06, 2013, 02:38:11 PM |
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I is very sad.
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ailikun
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August 06, 2013, 09:45:21 PM |
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This is crazy stupid.
Is it so difficult to process a refund?
Yifu will have to spend only a few hours... And we are waiting almost a month for it.
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August 06, 2013, 10:00:24 PM |
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This is crazy stupid.
Is it so difficult to process a refund?
Yifu will have to spend only a few hours... And we are waiting almost a month for it.
Maybe he is "punishing" those who requested a refund. "No refunds till the last Batch #3 is shipped", or something like that.
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ailikun
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August 06, 2013, 10:17:25 PM |
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Maybe he is "punishing" those who requested a refund. "No refunds till the last Batch #3 is shipped", or something like that.
Thats stupid... for what is he punishing us? For not being dumb? For giving him a free millions of dollars loan? Maybe he should punish him self, for making a fortune, out of others people money...? If we would've decided to keep batch 3 avalon.. there would've been only one thing to do: pray and hope, that you will receive atleast 70% out of the bitcoins you spend. There will be no ROI, not even close to it.
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August 07, 2013, 03:00:50 AM |
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Still not a single refund from Avalon.
Well, me, but it would be hard to blame anyone for seriously doubting me at this point :\ I think I may have been the test case.
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August 07, 2013, 06:02:53 PM |
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Ah yes, our refund thread goes off the front page again. I keep bumping in the rare scenario that Yifu shows up. Need to at least remind him that we're all very pissed about not receiving our refunds.
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