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May 26, 2019, 08:32:22 AM
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I think, we all want higher SVD trade volume then it is now. But there is no big interest for this tokens. Unfortunately, there is no necessary information background for it.

For higher volume we need at least one decent exchange. But we don't have. We have only one real exchange - HitBtc, but for now this exchange has some problem... So in fact we don't have nothing for now... They raised 50 mln usd and can pay easely for good exchange

The team is very greedy they don't care about the feelings of their investors after a long time we are still on the same point from where they get started no new exchanges added and now it looking they don't have any kind of fund to spend to promote this.

They have collected large amounts of funds. And there is no any satisfying result. Was there any team communication with there investors? How did they explain this situation?

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May 28, 2019, 12:54:20 PM
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I think, we all want higher SVD trade volume then it is now. But there is no big interest for this tokens. Unfortunately, there is no necessary information background for it.

For higher volume we need at least one decent exchange. But we don't have. We have only one real exchange - HitBtc, but for now this exchange has some problem... So in fact we don't have nothing for now... They raised 50 mln usd and can pay easely for good exchange

The team is very greedy they don't care about the feelings of their investors after a long time we are still on the same point from where they get started no new exchanges added and now it looking they don't have any kind of fund to spend to promote this.

They have collected large amounts of funds. And there is no any satisfying result. Was there any team communication with there investors? How did they explain this situation?
I do not care about exchanges, I care about the token use, about technological progress that could bring a real value to the token and not only quick price growth caused  by listing on a good exchange.   Smiley

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May 28, 2019, 03:29:38 PM
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I think, we all want higher SVD trade volume then it is now. But there is no big interest for this tokens. Unfortunately, there is no necessary information background for it.

For higher volume we need at least one decent exchange. But we don't have. We have only one real exchange - HitBtc, but for now this exchange has some problem... So in fact we don't have nothing for now... They raised 50 mln usd and can pay easely for good exchange

The team is very greedy they don't care about the feelings of their investors after a long time we are still on the same point from where they get started no new exchanges added and now it looking they don't have any kind of fund to spend to promote this.

They have collected large amounts of funds. And there is no any satisfying result. Was there any team communication with there investors? How did they explain this situation?
I do not care about exchanges, I care about the token use, about technological progress that could bring a real value to the token and not only quick price growth caused  by listing on a good exchange.   Smiley


In addition to technical progress development, we also need good exchanges as a way to introduce the savedroid project and to attract more investors.

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May 29, 2019, 08:38:25 AM
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I think, we all want higher SVD trade volume then it is now. But there is no big interest for this tokens. Unfortunately, there is no necessary information background for it.

For higher volume we need at least one decent exchange. But we don't have. We have only one real exchange - HitBtc, but for now this exchange has some problem... So in fact we don't have nothing for now... They raised 50 mln usd and can pay easely for good exchange

The team is very greedy they don't care about the feelings of their investors after a long time we are still on the same point from where they get started no new exchanges added and now it looking they don't have any kind of fund to spend to promote this.

They have collected large amounts of funds. And there is no any satisfying result. Was there any team communication with there investors? How did they explain this situation?
I do not care about exchanges, I care about the token use, about technological progress that could bring a real value to the token and not only quick price growth caused  by listing on a good exchange.   Smiley

You said right things. But in the end you and I talked about exchanges. I think that listing on exchange is possible without technological project development, but succesfull project development isn't possible without listing on exchanges.

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I do not care about exchanges, I care about the token use, about technological progress that could bring a real value to the token and not only quick price growth caused  by listing on a good exchange.   Smiley

I'm not so sure if that's irony... but if not, it's the joke of the day.

Somebody who does not care about exchanges but about token use and technological progress bought into a hype project that managed to get about $50 M to build an APP, "using" a token that is not even needed?

Of course!  Cheesy


Just a short reminder how they hyped their ICO claiming they would have secured a listing on a Top5 (from March 5, 2018):

https://twitter.com/savedroidag/status/970916960925093889
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I do not care about exchanges, I care about the token use, about technological progress that could bring a real value to the token and not only quick price growth caused  by listing on a good exchange.   Smiley

And what about you care? As I know they have only simple wallet, where their token not needed. And we have hundreds wallet. No one don't need another one wallet.
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I do not care about exchanges, I care about the token use, about technological progress that could bring a real value to the token and not only quick price growth caused  by listing on a good exchange.   Smiley

And what about you care? As I know they have only simple wallet, where their token not needed. And we have hundreds wallet. No one don't need another one wallet.
Okay guys, but if the token doesn´t have internal value, who will buy it on exchanges? And why?
I still believe that Savedroid team will improve the token use, since it is the most succesful startup company in Germany  Smiley.

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May 31, 2019, 01:50:31 PM
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A little bit more details about the claim against savedroid:

https://www.gruenderszene.de/fintech/savedroid-klage?interstitial_click

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Nice option for all participant of the #savedroid ICO for a possible withdraw of their ICO funds. Very easy tool and no need for a registered mail.

https://iudica.me/en/product/savedroid-ico-revocation/


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Hey Savedroid... long time no see!

How is it going? Is it true that you guys have some legal trouble?

I'm still sad that I was kicked out of your channels btw, especially if we think about what I said at that time. Imagine you would've listened to my advice to refund those who wanted out after your "PR-Stunt"... I bet, not only your Investors would be more happy but you as well. True or right? ;-)
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Hey Savedroid... long time no see!

How is it going? Is it true that you guys have some legal trouble?

I'm still sad that I was kicked out of your channels btw, especially if we think about what I said at that time. Imagine you would've listened to my advice to refund those who wanted out after your "PR-Stunt"... I bet, not only your Investors would be more happy but you as well. True or right? ;-)

You are right this project is trouble right after the ICOs because of the unprofessional behavior of the team. It was my worse decision to invest in this project but no serious development happened to build the trust of the investors to take it as serious project that is the reason this is still on the same way where it was year ago.
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Hey Savedroid... long time no see!

How is it going? Is it true that you guys have some legal trouble?

I'm still sad that I was kicked out of your channels btw, especially if we think about what I said at that time. Imagine you would've listened to my advice to refund those who wanted out after your "PR-Stunt"... I bet, not only your Investors would be more happy but you as well. True or right? ;-)

You are right this project is trouble right after the ICOs because of the unprofessional behavior of the team. It was my worse decision to invest in this project but no serious development happened to build the trust of the investors to take it as serious project that is the reason this is still on the same way where it was year ago.


In my opinion there is not much that is good or right with this project. It starts with the usecase that is very limited and exchanges could do the same as a sideproject within a few weeks, and probably better and cheaper. But, there is a problem with Crypto-Savings anyway, simply because it's so volatile. And who would use it? Only those who don't know much about Crypto and want it very convenient, those who don't want to do it right actually.

In that sense... Even if the team would be good and without the PR-Stunt and without the lies about Top5-Exchange (anyone remembers?), I find it hard to believe that such a usecase would get a lot of traction.
 

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Hey Savedroid... long time no see!

How is it going? Is it true that you guys have some legal trouble?

I'm still sad that I was kicked out of your channels btw, especially if we think about what I said at that time. Imagine you would've listened to my advice to refund those who wanted out after your "PR-Stunt"... I bet, not only your Investors would be more happy but you as well. True or right? ;-)
The team is getting legal trouble, I'm still watching this one right now. it looks like that some people are bringing this one to the legal action against savedroid. This project has already raised multi-million dollars and, scammers are hiding behind this project didn't even care with us and people who have joined in the TG group.
I will be more happy to see the scammer behind this crappy project will be arrested.

The development is not going somewhere. This platform is getting stuck at this point.
Investors will be more happy to get their money back again to their wallet and see the creator of savedroid will be jailed.
I have been losing some money on this crap platform and I hope that will come true soon.

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November 09, 2019, 08:42:42 AM
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Hey Savedroid... long time no see!

How is it going? Is it true that you guys have some legal trouble?

I'm still sad that I was kicked out of your channels btw, especially if we think about what I said at that time. Imagine you would've listened to my advice to refund those who wanted out after your "PR-Stunt"... I bet, not only your Investors would be more happy but you as well. True or right? ;-)
what legal issues happen to savedroid developers ?
I have SVD token, last day I'am bought SVD On exchanger HITBTC.
if this will have an impact on this project I will get out of this zone as soon as possible.

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Hey Savedroid... long time no see!

How is it going? Is it true that you guys have some legal trouble?

I'm still sad that I was kicked out of your channels btw, especially if we think about what I said at that time. Imagine you would've listened to my advice to refund those who wanted out after your "PR-Stunt"... I bet, not only your Investors would be more happy but you as well. True or right? ;-)
what legal issues happen to savedroid developers ?
I have SVD token, last day I'am bought SVD On exchanger HITBTC.
if this will have an impact on this project I will get out of this zone as soon as possible.

Others know more about this, because I didn't invest or buy and also didn't follow the more recent developments. But there are german articles like this one:

Betrugsvorwürfe: ICO bei Savedroid hat juristische Nachspiele
https://block-builders.de/betrugsvorwuerfe-ico-bei-savedroid-hat-juristische-nachspiele/

Most important points:

- ICO-Investors sue Savedroid to get a refund
- Prosecutors have reopened case because of fraud
- Savedroid sues the lawyer who acted as escrow and who holds back funds (because of irregularities of the ICO)

About the business/success so far:

- "(...) according to 'Bundesanzeiger' they made only 65,42 Euro in 2018."
- Hankir doesn't give any numbers
- "Allegedly Hankir doesn't know how much they made in the ICO"


The article concludes with saying:

"Even if the legal battle might be an open case and it's possible that Savedroid has some chances to get away with a 'blue eye': It seems that the names Hankir and Savedroid are burned in the cryptospace"


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This is how we discussed this project 1.5 years ago, right after their PR-Stunt:

dear investors and victims.
I am also one of many Savedroid investors, and for me there's only one possible excuse:

Savedroid has to offer a refund!

hereby i advise everyone (who like) to apply for a refund.
i have requested my refund at marco-hilft@savedroid.de and sent it CC to Mr. Hellinger who's Escrow for BTC/ETH.

so who participated with BTC/ETH should send his refund request CC to Mr. Hellinger (www.hellinger.eu)

Anyone who participated by wire transfer or credidcard should send to bank(at)bankfrik.li

Several of their Investors asked for getting refunded on Telegram and it's always the same. Last conversation about it went this way:

Q: When refund?
A: Refund is allowed 14days after you registered.
Q: Why not 14days after marketing fail?
A: I'm sorry but that's one of policy.



In my opinion they've really crossed a line to fraud, because:

1. Their pretended message is based on a lie. They could not have stolen the funds, while Yassin even said in his infamous video that it would have been easy to exit scam with all of the funds. A german journalist of gruenderszene said on youtube that Yassin didn't want to give an answer on the question how much of the money they really could have taken. Surprise... because the answer is: near to nothing or even nothing, especially no Crypto.

2. Besides the fact that their pretended message about regulations is totally trivial, it's actually even worthless in that context. There is no regulation against insanity. Since they didn't think through it and acted deceptive, I highly doubt that the message really was their true intention. If it was, it just proves their superficiality and inability of thinking through stuff.

3. Their real intention behind this PR-Stunt probably was to promote their new business-idea of ICO-advisory, which has nothing to do with the use case they've sold during the ICO. To invent a new business that has nothing to do with the usecase that was promoted to sell out the ICO would be a no-go anyway, even without the self-destructive PR-stunt.

4. Yassin said in a german interview that they don't think their PR-stunt will have bad impact on the future price of their token, otherwise they wouldn't have done it. The latter implies and underlines the pretense of being totally sure about that. That must be another lie, because nobody with an IQ above a cake could believe to be able to make such a prediction. Truth must be that they didn't care about Investors or again: are not able to think through stuff.

5. Investors beg for actions to repair the caused damage, but how should they manage that? It's not possible to get on top of the communication if confronted with several of their own lies and the inconsistency of their pretended message. Anybody seen any public communication of the leadership lately?

Quote: "Yassin has currently not answered our request to interview him and post the results publicly. We will update the situation in case anything changes."
https://medium.com/@BestofICOs/savedroid-the-damage-caused-4de56625aa26

6. They reject all requests of Investors who wish a refund. Of course they don't want to give the money back. It's about $50 mln in Fiat, Bitcoin and other Cryptocurrencies. And while prices of BTC and alts are rising, Investors of their token are in hostage and can't do anything but wait. #stockholmsyndrome


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If they would have been fair they would not only agree to refund those who would like to get their money back but even would've planned a refund into the "PR-Stunt-Strategy". Afterwards they would've refunded everybody and then announced a new ICO - also as kind of a poll/voting about their PR-strategy.
That would still have turned out to be a stupid move, it still would have been irresponsible. But at least it would have been a little bit better and also give them a better situation to react on accusations.

But they know they've fucked up, so they prefer the corner they've put themselves into while keeping the money, because they know they wouldn't ever get $50 mln again...

The interesting part about this situation really is to subdivide it all into the topics Inconsistency vs. Consistency, what they really care about and show real committance and what they don't care about. What they really cared about and where they have done a great job actually: To market their ICO and get a lot of money.

Everything else shows poor strategy, incompetence, selfish and ruthless action, inconsistency and even deception.

 


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November 09, 2019, 01:19:47 PM
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Hey Savedroid... long time no see!

How is it going? Is it true that you guys have some legal trouble?

I'm still sad that I was kicked out of your channels btw, especially if we think about what I said at that time. Imagine you would've listened to my advice to refund those who wanted out after your "PR-Stunt"... I bet, not only your Investors would be more happy but you as well. True or right? ;-)
what legal issues happen to savedroid developers ?
I have SVD token, last day I'am bought SVD On exchanger HITBTC.
if this will have an impact on this project I will get out of this zone as soon as possible.
why are you interested in buying SVD? seeing SVD is in 1108 Coinmarketcap and only has a daily volume of $ 5,
it makes me avoid coins or tokens of this kind !, I suggest selling and turning to projects in the top 1-200 Coinmarketcap because they still have better chances than this!

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November 09, 2019, 09:43:33 PM
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For everyone who want to legally hack Savedroid, here you go  Cheesy

They have a program on hacker1
https://hackerone.com/savedroid

Fortunately, they don't pay in SVD.

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Hey Savedroid... long time no see!

How is it going? Is it true that you guys have some legal trouble?

I'm still sad that I was kicked out of your channels btw, especially if we think about what I said at that time. Imagine you would've listened to my advice to refund those who wanted out after your "PR-Stunt"... I bet, not only your Investors would be more happy but you as well. True or right? ;-)

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Hey Savedroid... long time no see!

How is it going? Is it true that you guys have some legal trouble?

I'm still sad that I was kicked out of your channels btw, especially if we think about what I said at that time. Imagine you would've listened to my advice to refund those who wanted out after your "PR-Stunt"... I bet, not only your Investors would be more happy but you as well. True or right? ;-)
what legal issues happen to savedroid developers ?
I have SVD token, last day I'am bought SVD On exchanger HITBTC.
if this will have an impact on this project I will get out of this zone as soon as possible.
why are you interested in buying SVD? seeing SVD is in 1108 Coinmarketcap and only has a daily volume of $ 5,
it makes me avoid coins or tokens of this kind !, I suggest selling and turning to projects in the top 1-200 Coinmarketcap because they still have better chances than this!

Maybe they have another way or hope to see the price of the coin grow rapidly next year. But everyone has the right to have a choice of coins which they find very beneficial or to make their hearts happy with what they have held.
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Maybe they have another way or hope to see the price of the coin grow rapidly next year. But everyone has the right to have a choice of coins which they find very beneficial or to make their hearts happy with what they have held.
Does holding Savedroid make you happy? Today's SVD has decreased 38%, this is great LoL, what makes SVD prices like this? please tell me, if this continues, is there a future in this coin?

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