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September 07, 2018, 11:40:57 AM
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Ich möchte hier mal etwas los werden. Wäre ich SVD Investor und wäre ich um mein Invest durch eure Promotion auf dieser Art und Weise betrogen worden, hätte ich sofort Anzeige erstattet. Es wurde billigend in Kauf genommen Kapital zu zerstören !

Gelinde und vorsichtig gesagt, sieht es für mich nach fahrlässigen Betrug aus !  Shocked
Außerdem Unwissenheit schützt nicht vor Strafe !

Aber die Art und Weise zu welchem Zeitpunkt diese Promotion gemacht wurde zeigt ganz klar das es hier nicht darum
ging ein Geschäft zu fördern sondern eher das Gegenteil, daher sollte man sich ernsthaft fragen
ob das alles nicht ganz klar kalkuliert war und die Promotion nur der Verschleierung diente. Vielleicht war es sogar ein Geniestreich  Grin
und hier wurde möglicherweise bewusst ein Betrug begannen und als Promotion verkauft um aus dieser Sache ungestraft raus zu kommen.

regards
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Von welcher Promotion sprichst du? Wenn du auf den PR-Stunt anspielst, dieser war nie als Werbemaßnahme oder Promotion gedacht, sondern diente lediglich dem Zweck auf die Missstände in der Szene hinzuweisen.

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September 07, 2018, 01:38:41 PM
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Ich möchte hier mal etwas los werden. Wäre ich SVD Investor und wäre ich um mein Invest durch eure Promotion auf dieser Art und Weise betrogen worden, hätte ich sofort Anzeige erstattet. Es wurde billigend in Kauf genommen Kapital zu zerstören !

Gelinde und vorsichtig gesagt, sieht es für mich nach fahrlässigen Betrug aus !  Shocked
Außerdem Unwissenheit schützt nicht vor Strafe !

Aber die Art und Weise zu welchem Zeitpunkt diese Promotion gemacht wurde zeigt ganz klar das es hier nicht darum
ging ein Geschäft zu fördern sondern eher das Gegenteil, daher sollte man sich ernsthaft fragen
ob das alles nicht ganz klar kalkuliert war und die Promotion nur der Verschleierung diente. Vielleicht war es sogar ein Geniestreich  Grin
und hier wurde möglicherweise bewusst ein Betrug begannen und als Promotion verkauft um aus dieser Sache ungestraft raus zu kommen.

regards
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Von welcher Promotion sprichst du? Wenn du auf den PR-Stunt anspielst, dieser war nie als Werbemaßnahme oder Promotion gedacht, sondern diente lediglich dem Zweck auf die Missstände in der Szene hinzuweisen.

Ihr seid der größte Missstand der kryptowelt - und labert ständig den gleichen Unsinn
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September 07, 2018, 01:49:00 PM
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Ich möchte hier mal etwas los werden. Wäre ich SVD Investor und wäre ich um mein Invest durch eure Promotion auf dieser Art und Weise betrogen worden, hätte ich sofort Anzeige erstattet. Es wurde billigend in Kauf genommen Kapital zu zerstören !

Gelinde und vorsichtig gesagt, sieht es für mich nach fahrlässigen Betrug aus !  Shocked
Außerdem Unwissenheit schützt nicht vor Strafe !

Aber die Art und Weise zu welchem Zeitpunkt diese Promotion gemacht wurde zeigt ganz klar das es hier nicht darum
ging ein Geschäft zu fördern sondern eher das Gegenteil, daher sollte man sich ernsthaft fragen
ob das alles nicht ganz klar kalkuliert war und die Promotion nur der Verschleierung diente. Vielleicht war es sogar ein Geniestreich  Grin
und hier wurde möglicherweise bewusst ein Betrug begannen und als Promotion verkauft um aus dieser Sache ungestraft raus zu kommen.

regards
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Von welcher Promotion sprichst du? Wenn du auf den PR-Stunt anspielst, dieser war nie als Werbemaßnahme oder Promotion gedacht, sondern diente lediglich dem Zweck auf die Missstände in der Szene hinzuweisen.


Ihr habt also keine PR für Eure "ICO-Advisory-Idee" gemacht?

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September 07, 2018, 03:13:48 PM
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German language...
Translate please Cry
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September 07, 2018, 04:08:12 PM
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Ich möchte hier mal etwas los werden. Wäre ich SVD Investor und wäre ich um mein Invest durch eure Promotion auf dieser Art und Weise betrogen worden, hätte ich sofort Anzeige erstattet. Es wurde billigend in Kauf genommen Kapital zu zerstören !

Gelinde und vorsichtig gesagt, sieht es für mich nach fahrlässigen Betrug aus !  Shocked
Außerdem Unwissenheit schützt nicht vor Strafe !

Aber die Art und Weise zu welchem Zeitpunkt diese Promotion gemacht wurde zeigt ganz klar das es hier nicht darum
ging ein Geschäft zu fördern sondern eher das Gegenteil, daher sollte man sich ernsthaft fragen
ob das alles nicht ganz klar kalkuliert war und die Promotion nur der Verschleierung diente. Vielleicht war es sogar ein Geniestreich  Grin
und hier wurde möglicherweise bewusst ein Betrug begannen und als Promotion verkauft um aus dieser Sache ungestraft raus zu kommen.

regards
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Von welcher Promotion sprichst du? Wenn du auf den PR-Stunt anspielst, dieser war nie als Werbemaßnahme oder Promotion gedacht, sondern diente lediglich dem Zweck auf die Missstände in der Szene hinzuweisen.

so that means you are warning from people like yourself, because you are the worst crypto ICO with scammy methods i ever see in my crypto time.
has anyone ever hired you for ICO advisory? whoever hires you for that is already burnt as a scam and will never raise money.

with "promotion" he means your (irreführende Werbung) you did to trick people into investing their money into something that is clearly different than advertised.
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September 07, 2018, 04:17:10 PM
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German language...
Translate please Cry

lokko wrote a highly critical post in which he calls the PR-Stunt fraud and that it was promotion. tobson2 replies that the Stunt was never intended as advertisement or promotion but that they wanted raise awareness about scams in this space. I replied on his post and reminded him that they absolutely used the Stunt as promotion for their planned ICO-advisory-service. It seems they want to forget and already abandoned that idea, it's not on the site anymore, but it doesn't change the fact that there are still pictures to find of "ICO-advisory coming soon!"...

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September 07, 2018, 11:59:53 PM
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German language...
Translate please Cry

lokko wrote a highly critical post in which he calls the PR-Stunt fraud and that it was promotion. tobson2 replies that the Stunt was never intended as advertisement or promotion but that they wanted raise awareness about scams in this space. I replied on his post and reminded him that they absolutely used the Stunt as promotion for their planned ICO-advisory-service. It seems they want to forget and already abandoned that idea, it's not on the site anymore, but it doesn't change the fact that there are still pictures to find of "ICO-advisory coming soon!"...



People must post enhlish language here so that everybody undersyands what everyone is talking about. But anyway, what are the plans od savedroid on SVDs? Any good exchange ahead?


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September 08, 2018, 09:36:50 AM
Last edit: September 08, 2018, 09:56:33 AM by lokko
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Ich möchte hier mal etwas los werden. Wäre ich SVD Investor und wäre ich um mein Invest durch eure Promotion auf dieser Art und Weise betrogen worden, hätte ich sofort Anzeige erstattet. Es wurde billigend in Kauf genommen Kapital zu zerstören !

Gelinde und vorsichtig gesagt, sieht es für mich nach fahrlässigen Betrug aus !  Shocked
Außerdem Unwissenheit schützt nicht vor Strafe !

Aber die Art und Weise zu welchem Zeitpunkt diese Promotion gemacht wurde zeigt ganz klar das es hier nicht darum
ging ein Geschäft zu fördern sondern eher das Gegenteil, daher sollte man sich ernsthaft fragen
ob das alles nicht ganz klar kalkuliert war und die Promotion nur der Verschleierung diente. Vielleicht war es sogar ein Geniestreich  Grin
und hier wurde möglicherweise bewusst ein Betrug begannen und als Promotion verkauft um aus dieser Sache ungestraft raus zu kommen.

regards
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Von welcher Promotion sprichst du? Wenn du auf den PR-Stunt anspielst, dieser war nie als Werbemaßnahme oder Promotion gedacht, sondern diente lediglich dem Zweck auf die Missstände in der Szene hinzuweisen.

Es geht nicht darum für was der Pr-Stunt  war, sondern welche Konsequenzen er hatte
Hier wurde ein möglicher SCAM als Wohltat verkauft, interessanterweise weichst du dem kompletten Inhalt aus meinem Post aus  Grin
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September 09, 2018, 02:10:02 PM
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Lokko, I agree with everything that you say, but there is actually a German thread for Savedroid.
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September 10, 2018, 08:55:22 AM
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Startup Kitchen visited us in our Headquarters and made interviews with Prof. Dr. Danko Nikolic, our CDO  and Rurchali Dodderi, our Lead Backend Architect. See what our team talked about the interesting future of Savedroid app.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZ7UEowtz68
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September 10, 2018, 10:10:01 AM
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Startup Kitchen visited us in our Headquarters and made interviews with Prof. Dr. Danko Nikolic, our CDO  and Rurchali Dodderi, our Lead Backend Architect. See what our team talked about the interesting future of Savedroid app.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZ7UEowtz68

This is German speaking people what about others who don't understand that language you should post the summary of this interview in English than it will be easy for all people to understand.
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September 10, 2018, 03:41:36 PM
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Startup Kitchen visited us in our Headquarters and made interviews with Prof. Dr. Danko Nikolic, our CDO  and Rurchali Dodderi, our Lead Backend Architect. See what our team talked about the interesting future of Savedroid app.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZ7UEowtz68

This is German speaking people what about others who don't understand that language you should post the summary of this interview in English than it will be easy for all people to understand.


Nothing meaningful. Two guys visited Savedroid at their headquarter and everything is cool und stylish, a woman who works for Savedroid explains what Blockchain is and there is a dog and Yassir tells them that they are prepared in case it gets cold in Winter and so on. Several minutes full of nothing.

Not saying that everything should be deeply critical but at least it shouldn't be that superficial.
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September 10, 2018, 06:04:20 PM
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What I understand from this visit is simple that team Savedroid use everything as marketing stunt and this visit is that kind of activity. I like this interesting translation of German article in English which looks more real. What to expect more than this transaction discussed during their meeting when everything is openly visible.
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September 11, 2018, 07:15:36 AM
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They are just buying time, seriously whoever own this token is really naive
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September 12, 2018, 08:55:52 AM
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Artificial Intelligence Meetup Frankfurt September 27th


Hi AI enthusiasts,

The new season of AI meetups is starting. We have put together a number of cool speakers for our next meetup on the 27th of September. Please see below the tentative agenda.

It will be an awesome event.

See you soon,

Your organizing team

 

Agenda for the meetup:

19:00 – 19:15; Reception

19:15 – 19:20; Prof. Dr. Danko Nikolić, CDO and Head of AI at savedroid AG, A welcome note

19:20 – 19:40; Davor Andrić, CTO for AI at DXC Technology, How AI and analytics will transform the auto industry

19:40 – 20:00; Dr. Roman Hagelstein, Smart Forecast, Hybrid Forecasting Systems tournament

20:00 – 20:20; Franco Arda, ML freelancer, Can AI prevent the next corporate mega-scandal?

20:20-20:30; A short break spiced with announcements (open positions, etc.)

20:30 – 20:45; Prof. Dr. Danko Nikolić, CDO and Head of AI at savedroid AG, Machines and humans make different types of errors

20:45 – 21:00; Michael Krech, DB Systel GmbH, Probabilistic Programming

21:00 – open end; Socializing, Buffet

 

Thanks to our sponsors:

Location by DB, DB Systel (https://www.dbsystel.de/dbsystel) & DB Skydeck


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Jürgen-Ponto-Platz 1 . 60329 Frankfurt AM Main


Food and drinks by DXC (http://www.dxc.technology/de)
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September 13, 2018, 07:32:06 PM
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I would stay away from this

- already on the first page the threadstarter seems to have created a new user fake account to push the thread when he wasnt getting a reply for 4 hours.

- while there is some know-how and some links to bigger companies (we dont know how deep the links are), the token seems to serve no purpose other than bring in money for the creators because they are probably burning cash fast and need new money. i mean the token is described as "used for SERVICES", no this does not mean you can use it for anything because services can be anything you will never need.
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September 13, 2018, 07:56:09 PM
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I would stay away from this

- already on the first page the threadstarter seems to have created a new user fake account to push the thread when he wasnt getting a reply for 4 hours.

- while there is some know-how and some links to bigger companies (we dont know how deep the links are), the token seems to serve no purpose other than bring in money for the creators because they are probably burning cash fast and need new money. i mean the token is described as "used for SERVICES", no this does not mean you can use it for anything because services can be anything you will never need.

Although there are so many problems and issues which need to get resolved and early investors want to see more seriousness from dev to help this project get back on track. People have no choice how to make safe exit from this that's why some of them are just watching this and waiting for the right time.
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September 13, 2018, 10:52:41 PM
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I would stay away from this

- already on the first page the threadstarter seems to have created a new user fake account to push the thread when he wasnt getting a reply for 4 hours.

- while there is some know-how and some links to bigger companies (we dont know how deep the links are), the token seems to serve no purpose other than bring in money for the creators because they are probably burning cash fast and need new money. i mean the token is described as "used for SERVICES", no this does not mean you can use it for anything because services can be anything you will never need.

Although there are so many problems and issues which need to get resolved and early investors want to see more seriousness from dev to help this project get back on track. People have no choice how to make safe exit from this that's why some of them are just watching this and waiting for the right time.

Yes right mate. People dont have a choice but to stay especially those who invested a lot in the ico. Cause how can they have a safe exit if this shitcoin dont have a good exchange and remains shitcoin until now.


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A short "market-report", because some interesting things are happening.


1) Volume

Who checks the volume on Coinmarketcap finds out that it is very low. Right now only about 6.400 EUR. But, who looks at the markets to see the numbers per exchange will see this:




The volume on Cobinhood is excluded because Cobinhood charges no fees. But the volume is not just higher than on other exchanges, it is 5700% of HitBTC.

Most interesting question is: Can that be real volume? I mean, one could say: Since trading is for free people simply trade much more.

Why I don't believe that: The other exchanges show that not many are interested in Savedroid. I know Shitcoins from 2014 which have a higher volume. And the orderbook shows: On the BTC pair only 25 M SVD are on the buyside. On the ETH pair: 30 M SVD. Even if all of that would be at the current price level that would only be about 35000 EUR. But most of it is much much lower (15 Million SVD below 3 SAT on the BTC pair for example).

So, where does the volume come from? My bet: It's wash trading, done by bots. Maybe it's the exchange that trades SVD they got from Savedroid to list the token back and forth or it is another entity.

What is Wash trading?

A wash trade is a form of market manipulation in which an investor simultaneously sells and buys the same financial instruments to create misleading, artificial activity in the marketplace.[1] First, an investor will place a sell order, then place a buy order to buy from himself, or vice versa. This may be done for a number of reasons:

To artificially increase trading volume, giving the impression that the instrument is more in demand than it actually is.[2]

(...) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wash_trade


It's not unusual in Crypto. Even Bitfinex is accused to do it with Tether (Bitfinex and Tether are owned by the same ppl). But it's misleading of course and actually not legal.




2) Price


Yesterday something interesting happened:




That dump sent the price nearly to zero (about 0.000028 EUR) - with only 12 Million SVD.

Two scenarios:

1) Somebody simply wanted to get out. Without thinking about how to do it smart, he sold 12 Million SVD at a huge loss because a lot of it was sold significantly below the current price while it would have been possible to sell 12 Million with a little bit more patience and not only the ETH-pair without losing so much money.

2) A wash-trading-bot went crazy...


I don't know what it really was. Scenario 1 is possible because there are enough people who bought into SVD without having any experience, or maybe somebody was mad as hell and just wanted to crash the price or whatever. But.... stupid of course. Scenario 2: Bots don't always work as intended and that the volume is no real trading is a pretty safe guess in my opinion.





3) Cobinhood has influence on the price, not the best one...


But, what I actually want to show is: Whatever happens on Cobinhood with SVD doesn't help the price. It's the opposite. A second look on the first screenshot above shows: Prices on the Cobinhood-pairs are below other exchanges. With other words: The high(er) volume, in comparison to other exchanges SVD is listed on, would indicate high interest. If that would be real the price should reflect that as well. The liquidity is low, so the price actually should be above the prices on other exchanges. Why is that not the case?

A potential scenario could be this: Wash-trading, done by bots, is happening. The higher volume attracts real Investors but more of those who want out. So they choose to sell their SVD on Cobinhood and whenever somebody sells into the buys, the price goes down. Bots adjust and place their orders at lower prices as well. With other words: They would help to suppress the price even more. Other exchanges follow the leading exchange by volume and price circles down.

If I'm right, everybody who would be interested in higher prices can say a big "thank you" to whomever does this funny moves on Cobinhood.


The Chart looks this way - new All-Time-Low:




 

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