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June 10, 2018, 03:09:52 PM
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People allready know that this savedroid dev team is greedy just want to take $$$ from investor pocket, they dont care about investor, they just buying time delay everything just want to wait escrow release their money, after escrow release money im sure they will fucking gone, they just a bunch of scammer especially dr porn yassin and tobias, both of them CES ( chief executive scammer )
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June 10, 2018, 03:15:10 PM
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I suppose this project is very good and good.
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June 10, 2018, 03:28:48 PM
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I just got banned from telegram because I said that even the admins there are fake.
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You are not the only one. I was banned on the german Savedroid-Channel today what was kind of funny. Actually it was a good discussion first. I was critical but didn't spread FUD, didn't attack anyone personal (and clearly said that it's not my intention to do that), I even said some positive things as well and it was totally on topic, about fundamental aspects of the project. But after some time an Admin asked me to stop and since the discussion was pretty much over anyway, I was quiet.

But some hours later I recognize that another Admin quoted a post of mine in which I had expressed my critique that Savedroid pinned the Price-Simulation on the webpage, but without giving any transparency how they come to those conclusions, also that it's my impression that no one who believes and supports the project seems to be able to explain...

1) why Savedroid wanted and got so much money in the ICO
2) why the total value of SVD should be that high and why (much higher than the value of the whole company btw)
3) what the burn rate will be, because I've never seen any number
4) why nobody of those who believe in the project seem to be able to come up with fundamental arguments instead simply ask critiques to be quiet and/or asking others just to have trust


So this Admin quoted my post, and linked a screenshot to the whitepaper which shows a basic explanation how they came to the chart - but without giving any numbers. I explained again that I know the explanation but that it doesn't say anything and asked...

- if there are numbers
- if Savedroid provided informations about the expected volume
- about the expected burn rate etc.

Then another guy replied on my post and I replied on him, even said something positive (that I'm not critical about the concept in general but about some certain aspects which I pointed out). After a few minutes when I looked again: Banned

That's ironic. Earlier I had agreed to stop and I was quiet, but I made the mistake to believe that it's okay to reply if somebody quotes me, including an Admin. But... that already seems to be enough to get kicked there without any explanation or a warning. ;-)


Many got kicked btw. They prefer their little fish-bowl-echo-chamber and probably they even prefer all the guys who constantly ask when it will hit the exchange instead of really discussing the fundamentals of this project.





I also noticed that they can't handle critism well, especially in the german group. I'm german myself, so I kinda followed all the discussions. It is funny to see the same people that 2 months ago defended Savedroid now slowly are moving to the critism side. I did support the project in the beginning, but I changed my attitude thanks to the worst marketing and worst promises ever. Gonna sell my tokens and leave. I'm pretty sure the price will be way lower than 0.01$. I expect something in the 0.005$ range or lower since the token has no value and only lies so far. The sneakpeak announced won't change anything. One of the worst updates ever. See you around christmas when it is still not listed haha
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June 10, 2018, 03:36:33 PM
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A good trade method by suggesting a variety of comfort, convenience, conveniences and lower costs than other trades will make a difficult competition in the stock exchanges for crypto players.
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June 10, 2018, 05:22:28 PM
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I suppose this project is very good and good.

I think, you don't know what you're talking about.

No offense included. Wink

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June 10, 2018, 09:13:36 PM
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People allready know that this savedroid dev team is greedy just want to take $$$ from investor pocket, they dont care about investor, they just buying time delay everything just want to wait escrow release their money, after escrow release money im sure they will fucking gone, they just a bunch of scammer especially dr porn yassin and tobias, both of them CES ( chief executive scammer )

nice thought
i think your opinion is correct
they just delay everything then officially a scam
...and it's officially GONE...

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June 11, 2018, 06:48:28 AM
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What a mess you got yourself into savedroid
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June 11, 2018, 03:05:14 PM
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Just want to let you know,  27 days passed since vote result.  Are you ready for top 5 exchange?   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

https://twitter.com/savedroidAG/status/996390795711275008
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June 11, 2018, 03:26:04 PM
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Just want to let you know,  27 days passed since vote result.  Are you ready for top 5 exchange?   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

https://twitter.com/savedroidAG/status/996390795711275008

When (untill which date) they proised top exchanges? Tokens still locked or thet trading on decentralized exchanges like Delta and Idex?

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June 11, 2018, 07:02:18 PM
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Just want to let you know,  27 days passed since vote result.  Are you ready for top 5 exchange?   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

https://twitter.com/savedroidAG/status/996390795711275008

When (untill which date) they proised top exchanges? Tokens still locked or thet trading on decentralized exchanges like Delta and Idex?
i don't see savedroid in blockfolio, so it's probably locked and not being traded anywhere at this moment.
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June 11, 2018, 07:07:56 PM
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Just want to let you know,  27 days passed since vote result.  Are you ready for top 5 exchange?   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

https://twitter.com/savedroidAG/status/996390795711275008

When (untill which date) they proised top exchanges? Tokens still locked or thet trading on decentralized exchanges like Delta and Idex?
i don't see savedroid in blockfolio, so it's probably locked and not being traded anywhere at this moment.
yes you are right their tokens are still locked up and have not gotten any news from them when the tokens are unlocked, so how does all the community here announce the trade while the token is still locked
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June 11, 2018, 10:22:54 PM
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Just want to let you know,  27 days passed since vote result.  Are you ready for top 5 exchange?   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

https://twitter.com/savedroidAG/status/996390795711275008

When (untill which date) they proised top exchanges? Tokens still locked or thet trading on decentralized exchanges like Delta and Idex?

They promise max 6 weeks after vote for top 5 exchange, if not we all must take action againts this savedroid team for their shit work
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June 12, 2018, 06:50:19 AM
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Just want to let you know,  27 days passed since vote result.  Are you ready for top 5 exchange?   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

https://twitter.com/savedroidAG/status/996390795711275008

When (untill which date) they proised top exchanges? Tokens still locked or thet trading on decentralized exchanges like Delta and Idex?

They promise max 6 weeks after vote for top 5 exchange, if not we all must take action againts this savedroid team for their shit work


Exactly !  They said  4-6 weeks.  That's why yesterday i said 27 days passed.
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June 12, 2018, 11:55:42 AM
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Just want to let you know,  27 days passed since vote result.  Are you ready for top 5 exchange?   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

https://twitter.com/savedroidAG/status/996390795711275008

When (untill which date) they proised top exchanges? Tokens still locked or thet trading on decentralized exchanges like Delta and Idex?

They promise max 6 weeks after vote for top 5 exchange, if not we all must take action againts this savedroid team for their shit work


Exactly !  They said  4-6 weeks.  That's why yesterday i said 27 days passed.
Maybe we need to wait a little longer, before the end of the month there should be an announcement regarding the exchange.
I know a lot of people here are very excited, some are excited to dump and some are excited to buy the cheapest coin once dump happy.
IMO, if we will be in top 5 exchange, it would help the price to be stable as investors will live the move.

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June 12, 2018, 03:44:43 PM
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I have to repeat myself! And i don't care whether my proposal suits savedroid's plans (since they don't even show any reaction to it). They fooled their community and investors in a dramatic manner. By just continueing the way they do right now (playing for time with the hope everything calms down and will be forgotten), they make things even worse.

So.....

Refund investors! Every investor should have the possibility to apply for a refund...

I think until now only a small part of the funds has been already spent for project related things, so it should be possible to refund an investor by his application for almost 100% by return of his SVD Tokens.

This is the only honorable and legitimate way to handle this situation.

It would be the proof of a good will and would represent a true excuse by savedroid and its team. This way savedroid takes full responsibility for its actions and decisions and has at least the chance to regain trust.


Maybe someone can initiate a petition/survey about a possible refund and help spreading it among all investors ?


Refund is possible in case of insuccessfuly ICO, in case of savedroid it is not, so no one can claim refund, sorry buddy, i'm on your side but that was a risk as any another ICO.
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June 12, 2018, 06:51:43 PM
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Where is this "rule", which makes it impossible to refund investors, coming from?

If until today they haven't spent a lot of the funds for their project, it should still be available on their wallets. And if they have full access to it, they theoretically could refund investors maybe by about 90%...i don't get it where the problem is.

Still waiting for an official giving a statement to this.
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June 12, 2018, 08:10:52 PM
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Where is this "rule", which makes it impossible to refund investors, coming from?

If until today they haven't spent a lot of the funds for their project, it should still be available on their wallets. And if they have full access to it, they theoretically could refund investors maybe by about 90%...i don't get it where the problem is.

Still waiting for an official giving a statement to this.

If it's not possible to legally force them to refund those who would want that, they won't do it.

One thing about Savedroid is obvious: They like it very much to point on others, on the greed and the lack of sustainability in the market, on the high listing prices on certain exchanges which are economically not rational out of Savedroid-perspective but "moon-prices". They like it to talk about transparency and educating others, they like to present themselves as serious and reputable.

But....

They used the ICO-Hype to make as much money as possible, they used everything to hype ("Top5-Exchange secured!" - "it's possible to invest with many other cryptocurrencies" - "here is a price-prediction chart" - "made in Germany" etc.) while they could never explain why a little Startup that wants to develop an App needs more money as many of the projects who are leading today (Ethereum, Neo, Binance, etc.)

They could never explain why their token-economy could ever be worth the high price they've already given it during the ICO. And just btw: They also don't give numbers about the burning-rate while they like it to let their Investors believe that the burning will give real value to the token while the whole company is not near to be worth what they got in the ICO.

They could never explain how it's possible to be sure that their PR-Stunt would not have bad impact on the future price - which Yassin said in an interview.

And when it's about transparency.... what do they let their Investors know? Whenever it's about the important aspects they simply say "trust us".

Any informations about Exchange-Listing? --> "trust us"
How much SVD will be burned of each fee? --> "a certain percentage, just trust us"
Do you really need that much money? --> "trust us"
Was the exchange-voting legtit? ---> "trust us"
How did you come to the price-chart? How was it calculated? --> "trust us"
The PR-Stunt will not have bad effect for the price? ---> "trust us"
etc...




They have the real money now and it's naive to believe that hypocrites like that will give any of that back if they have the chance to keep it. Otherwise they would have refunded already because many wanted that the day after their PR-Stunt. But, what was their reason again?

"The project did not change."

And that's true, because already long before their PR-Stunt, during their ICO, there have been red flags.

 

 
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June 12, 2018, 09:53:32 PM
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Where is this "rule", which makes it impossible to refund investors, coming from?

If until today they haven't spent a lot of the funds for their project, it should still be available on their wallets. And if they have full access to it, they theoretically could refund investors maybe by about 90%...i don't get it where the problem is.

Still waiting for an official giving a statement to this.

If it's not possible to legally force them to refund those who would want that, they won't do it.

One thing about Savedroid is obvious: They like it very much to point on others, on the greed and the lack of sustainability in the market, on the high listing prices on certain exchanges which are economically not rational out of Savedroid-perspective but "moon-prices". They like it to talk about transparency and educating others, they like to present themselves as serious and reputable.

But....

They used the ICO-Hype to make as much money as possible, they used everything to hype ("Top5-Exchange secured!" - "it's possible to invest with many other cryptocurrencies" - "here is a price-prediction chart" - "made in Germany" etc.) while they could never explain why a little Startup that wants to develop an App needs more money as many of the projects who are leading today (Ethereum, Neo, Binance, etc.)

They could never explain why their token-economy could ever be worth the high price they've already given it during the ICO. And just btw: They also don't give numbers about the burning-rate while they like it to let their Investors believe that the burning will give real value to the token while the whole company is not near to be worth what they got in the ICO.

They could never explain how it's possible to be sure that their PR-Stunt would not have bad impact on the future price - which Yassin said in an interview.

And when it's about transparency.... what do they let their Investors know? Whenever it's about the important aspects they simply say "trust us".

Any informations about Exchange-Listing? --> "trust us"
How much SVD will be burned of each fee? --> "a certain percentage, just trust us"
Do you really need that much money? --> "trust us"
Was the exchange-voting legtit? ---> "trust us"
How did you come to the price-chart? How was it calculated? --> "trust us"
The PR-Stunt will not have bad effect for the price? ---> "trust us"
etc...




They have the real money now and it's naive to believe that hypocrites like that will give any of that back if they have the chance to keep it. Otherwise they would have refunded already because many wanted that the day after their PR-Stunt. But, what was their reason again?

"The project did not change."

And that's true, because already long before their PR-Stunt, during their ICO, there have been red flags.

 

 

On top of all that, the Savedroid AG actually hast 3 members on their executive board. All three of them are in/on there _with their very own companies_, 2 GmbH (equivalent to an US LLC) and Hankir himself with another AG (Aktiengesellschaft)
(corporation/inc.).

So they simply need to start to send themself some invoices....... aaaaaaand....

It's looking really crazy when you just lift the blanket on top of that mess.........

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June 12, 2018, 10:48:11 PM
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Im starting to believe this is scam project..and the team it will always defend that this is not scam but they cant prove it.because they have no plans to list it.
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June 12, 2018, 11:30:58 PM
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Im starting to believe this is scam project..and the team it will always defend that this is not scam but they cant prove it.because they have no plans to list it.

i hope this is not a scam project, they promise to us to list this token in 5 exchanges, i think they still work hard for it, let we give them a chance until the end of this month.

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