MONEYPOT alternative discussion thread! no posting will be deleted

[CrazyCraig]

hey CC

thx for the explanation of one problem

but the other very obvious problem is that their is no support for players and that was already before. support is most important but was never taken serious by moneypot. players sending mails or going to discord and dont get answers.

anyway good luck to you

In some of the more complicated support issues there is a drop off window as they require my assistance to do some of the stuff in the database that we do not have tools for. We are building more tools as we progress to help alleviate the issue.

If a user contacts me directly I will work the issue myself as I have a direct line with those who worth support channels.

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[JackpotRacer]

hey CC

thx for the explanation of one problem

but the other very obvious problem is that their is no support for players and that was already before. support is most important but was never taken serious by moneypot. players sending mails or going to discord and dont get answers.

anyway good luck to you

In some of the more complicated support issues there is a drop off window as they require my assistance to do some of the stuff in the database that we do not have tools for. We are building more tools as we progress to help alleviate the issue.

If a user contacts me directly I will work the issue myself as I have a direct line with those who worth support channels.

so the solution is that you need to take over the discord support channel or/and to tell each user to contact you directly

cheers

[JackpotRacer]

Sadly Dogedigital goes on with his Scam!!!

I asked and I will not stop asking when Dogedigital = Moneypot will fulfill his/their promise and pay us Investors the promised compensation!

he deleted another posting of mine.

here it is

same disappointing answer as always just changing from the word "Soon" to another way to say "Soon"

guess everything should be fine JPR , looking at what monsterbyte is doing it seems that they are taking the business really seriously and most likely they will solve all of the old issues
their aim for the new exchange should be to compete with other small exchanges , and most likely they will figure this out to protect their business

I really appreciate all your answers and trying to calm down this sensible problem. please understand that I would like to hear a serious answer from Dogedigital who did all those promises till now or/and from Monster Byte how they will handle it if at all. there is till now no serious answer on the table. just check Dogedigitals trust and IMO it tells a story

good luck

We're implementing a strategy of chess, not checkers.

We want to do things the right way, not just rush it all.

Everyone in the Monsterbyte and Moneypot team are working hard.  You can see things progress and pieces being put in place that allows for future development to take shape.

I truly do wish you are able to successfully bring Jackpotracer back on your own and take your mind off this until we finish.  Attacking us based off of unfounded allegations can only delay things, not make them any faster. 

Until then, we will keep our heads down working and wish you well.

everything was fine till you wrote "Attacking us based off of unfounded allegations"!!!

you didn't learn anything and are the same ........ as always. just spare your long answers and write "Soon"

check your red trust and then tell me all those who gave you red trust with the explanations are
"unfounded allegations"

Yes, all speculation based off an individuals unfounded claims.  Please refrain from continually hashing this subject.

I will not refrain to tell the truth and asking you to fulfill your promises until you paid the compensations and keep your promises!!!

[maidenvoyage]

Sadly Dogedigital goes on with his Scam!!!

I asked and I will not stop asking when Dogedigital = Moneypot will fulfill his/their promise and pay us Investors the promised compensation!

he deleted another posting of mine.

here it is

same disappointing answer as always just changing from the word "Soon" to another way to say "Soon"

Yes, really sad.. Now the start a new venture with this Nessie.io thing, when all old claims are open and they fried BTC in the hundreds in the last 24 month of their investors.

[JackpotRacer]

Yes, really sad.. Now the start a new venture with this Nessie.io thing, when all old claims are open and they fried BTC in the hundreds in the last 24 month of their investors.

thank you for the posting and I 100% agree with you and therefore I gave Dogedigital another red trust

[DarkDays]

Yes, really sad.. Now the start a new venture with this Nessie.io thing, when all old claims are open and they fried BTC in the hundreds in the last 24 month of their investors.

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How's the lawsuit coming?

From your comment, it seems like you are afraid that they are opening a new business in order to hide assets.  Is this accurate or am I misinterpreting what you said?

[JackpotRacer]

I took the time to post some info also in Monster Byte thread cause it is high time to stop Dogedigital aka moneypot Scamming Investors and Players

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1980482.msg41382489#msg41382489

[JackpotRacer]

I took the time to post some info also in Monster Byte thread cause it is high time to stop Dogedigital aka moneypot Scamming Investors and Players

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1980482.msg41382489#msg41382489

I didn't scam anyone.  Stop with this nonsense please.  It's causing serious harm and is simply not true.

you are one of the worst Scammers here. just check your red trust. only Scammers will delete postings again and again!!!

keep your promises easy as that and not delaying it for years

I will say it again loud and clear

DOGEDIGITAL aka MONEYPOT is a SCAMMER!!!

[SyGambler]

I took the time to post some info also in Monster Byte thread cause it is high time to stop Dogedigital aka moneypot Scamming Investors and Players

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1980482.msg41382489#msg41382489

I didn't scam anyone.  Stop with this nonsense please.  It's causing serious harm and is simply not true.

you are one of the worst Scammers here. just check your red trust. only Scammers will delete postings again and again!!!

keep your promises easy as that and not delaying it for years

I will say it again loud and clear

DOGEDIGITAL aka MONEYPOT is a SCAMMER!!!

ok how about creating a thread listing all the problems and concerns you have and there and moneypot can explain what happened or even maybe announces future plans
to be honest I don't find it fair to pay some investors money that they lost due to investing in apps , we all know there is risk involved and the house shouldn't be responsible in paying the loss

I know that there are other things like rubies ..etc but how about listing all the concerns like 1 , 2 and 3

[JackpotRacer]

I took the time to post some info also in Monster Byte thread cause it is high time to stop Dogedigital aka moneypot Scamming Investors and Players

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1980482.msg41382489#msg41382489

I didn't scam anyone.  Stop with this nonsense please.  It's causing serious harm and is simply not true.

you are one of the worst Scammers here. just check your red trust. only Scammers will delete postings again and again!!!

keep your promises easy as that and not delaying it for years

I will say it again loud and clear

DOGEDIGITAL aka MONEYPOT is a SCAMMER!!!

ok how about creating a thread listing all the problems and concerns you have and there and moneypot can explain what happened or even maybe announces future plans
to be honest I don't find it fair to pay some investors money that they lost due to investing in apps , we all know there is risk involved and the house shouldn't be responsible in paying the loss

I know that there are other things like rubies ..etc but how about listing all the concerns like 1 , 2 and 3

it is much easier @Sy namely you can ask Dogedigital if he promised Investors compensations!

I can again post his promise here. or you go over to the Moneypot thread and check @DarkDays last posting

or you go to the scam accusation thread

believe me it would have been much easier for all if Dogedigital would have paid the Investor compensation!

regarding RBIES it was a Scam by Dogedigital and there is no way out. again please check out Dogedigital's and user @moneypot's red trust.

edit
just head over to the scam accusation thread and read this
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2176574.msg41398695#msg41398695

[BTCevo]

it is much easier @Sy namely you can ask Dogedigital if he promised Investors compensations!

I can again post his promise here. or you go over to the Moneypot thread and check @DarkDays last posting

or you go to the scam accusation thread

believe me it would have been much easier for all if Dogedigital would have paid the Investor compensation!

regarding RBIES it was a Scam by Dogedigital and there is no way out. again please check out Dogedigital's and user @moneypot's red trust.

Actually, I do not think that the rbies should be asked again because it wont be paid for sure and I do not even know if there is a real compensation or not towards the investors. But yet until this day, it seems that investors keep quite about it. Do not know what are moneypot team saying to them but they are growing by opening their nessie.io exchanges, I do not know if this helping them to raise their funds but they should coming back or their moneypot will be closed for good

[fiscorcle]

it is much easier @Sy namely you can ask Dogedigital if he promised Investors compensations!

I can again post his promise here. or you go over to the Moneypot thread and check @DarkDays last posting

or you go to the scam accusation thread

believe me it would have been much easier for all if Dogedigital would have paid the Investor compensation!

regarding RBIES it was a Scam by Dogedigital and there is no way out. again please check out Dogedigital's and user @moneypot's red trust.

Actually, I do not think that the rbies should be asked again because it wont be paid for sure and I do not even know if there is a real compensation or not towards the investors. But yet until this day, it seems that investors keep quite about it. Do not know what are moneypot team saying to them but they are growing by opening their nessie.io exchanges, I do not know if this helping them to raise their funds but they should coming back or their moneypot will be closed for good

How does that make sense? We should forgive their Ruby obligation just because they will never have enough money to pay for it?

[JackpotRacer]

it is much easier @Sy namely you can ask Dogedigital if he promised Investors compensations!

I can again post his promise here. or you go over to the Moneypot thread and check @DarkDays last posting

or you go to the scam accusation thread

believe me it would have been much easier for all if Dogedigital would have paid the Investor compensation!

regarding RBIES it was a Scam by Dogedigital and there is no way out. again please check out Dogedigital's and user @moneypot's red trust.

Actually, I do not think that the rbies should be asked again because it wont be paid for sure and I do not even know if there is a real compensation or not towards the investors. But yet until this day, it seems that investors keep quite about it. Do not know what are moneypot team saying to them but they are growing by opening their nessie.io exchanges, I do not know if this helping them to raise their funds but they should coming back or their moneypot will be closed for good

How does that make sense? We should forgive their Ruby obligation just because they will never have enough money to pay for it?

perfect answer! thx again for your input

[bitspender]

it is much easier @Sy namely you can ask Dogedigital if he promised Investors compensations!

I can again post his promise here. or you go over to the Moneypot thread and check @DarkDays last posting

or you go to the scam accusation thread

believe me it would have been much easier for all if Dogedigital would have paid the Investor compensation!

regarding RBIES it was a Scam by Dogedigital and there is no way out. again please check out Dogedigital's and user @moneypot's red trust.

edit
just head over to the scam accusation thread and read this
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2176574.msg41398695#msg41398695

Gonna jump in here. So Lobos & Bjorn (BetterBets team) raises a bunch of money by creating RBIES, then ditches it to do another ICO (Janus, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1677509.0), and no one blames them for the mess RBIES is in? They raised all the money from RBIES and all the money from Janus and have nothing to show for it? How is that not scammer tagged?


Looks like dogedigital is in over their head on a promise he made to sustain price of RBIES, not a scam but also not good looks.

[RHavar]

Gonna jump in here. So Lobos & Bjorn (BetterBets team) raises a bunch of money by creating RBIES, then ditches it to do another ICO (Janus, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1677509.0), and no one blames them for the mess RBIES is in? They raised all the money from RBIES and all the money from Janus and have nothing to show for it? How is that not scammer tagged?

There's a difference between a failed business and a scam though. Perhaps there was some criminality involved, but it's not obviously so.

Looks like dogedigital is in over their head on a promise he made to sustain price of RBIES, not a scam but also not good looks.

That's the clear scam territory. MoneyPot made a hard promise to support the price of rubies, directly and indirectly profited on it -- and then when it came time to fulfill their promise -- they just laughed at people who believed them (and DogeDigital has even gone so far as to leave negative trust on two people who complained about being scammed). This puts it in unambiguous scam territory.

My hypothesis is that MP will/is buy backing back the now worthless rubies for cents on the dollar and then once they acquire enough announce they are "now" honoring their promise, and thus they did nothing wrong and banking on people forgetting how they screwed their most loyal customers.

[JackpotRacer]

Looks like dogedigital is in over their head on a promise he made to sustain price of RBIES, not a scam but also not good looks.

That's the clear scam territory. MoneyPot made a hard promise to support the price of rubies, directly and indirectly profited on it -- and then when it came time to fulfill their promise -- they just laughed at people who believed them (and DogeDigital has even gone so far as to leave negative trust on two people who complained about being scammed). This puts it in unambiguous scam territory.

My hypothesis is that MP will/is buy backing back the now worthless rubies for cents on the dollar and then once they acquire enough announce they are "now" honoring their promise, and thus they did nothing wrong and banking on people forgetting how they screwed their most loyal customers.

nothing will help Moneypot! even they pay back the promised compensations for Investors no one should trust them!

regarding RBIES I would say: as soon Dogedigital aka moneypot declined to keep his floor promise it was a SCAM

your hypothesis is also mine, but also this scenario will not help them! only Idiots will trust them. actually they killed themselves! it was the price for the robbery they did.

Dogedigital aka moneypot is a SCAMMER. IMO he should get more red trust from other users!

[BTCevo]

it is much easier @Sy namely you can ask Dogedigital if he promised Investors compensations!

I can again post his promise here. or you go over to the Moneypot thread and check @DarkDays last posting

or you go to the scam accusation thread

believe me it would have been much easier for all if Dogedigital would have paid the Investor compensation!

regarding RBIES it was a Scam by Dogedigital and there is no way out. again please check out Dogedigital's and user @moneypot's red trust.

Actually, I do not think that the rbies should be asked again because it wont be paid for sure and I do not even know if there is a real compensation or not towards the investors. But yet until this day, it seems that investors keep quite about it. Do not know what are moneypot team saying to them but they are growing by opening their nessie.io exchanges, I do not know if this helping them to raise their funds but they should coming back or their moneypot will be closed for good

How does that make sense? We should forgive their Ruby obligation just because they will never have enough money to pay for it?

I know it does not make any sense but my point here, there is ono way they will pay us as for rbies again so there is no more thing to complain, they will just let us dry for the rbies without giving anything. And where is the other big investors who invest like a lot? No one complain about it either so why bothering to keep on trusting them with any coin mean while they can't give us the progress or details to the rbies

I am part of these too but I can't say much because now what I am seeinghere is just a failure thing to have rbies on the first place with so many promises that they made

[okleggo]

Looks like dogedigital is in over their head on a promise he made to sustain price of RBIES, not a scam but also not good looks.

That's the clear scam territory. MoneyPot made a hard promise to support the price of rubies, directly and indirectly profited on it -- and then when it came time to fulfill their promise -- they just laughed at people who believed them (and DogeDigital has even gone so far as to leave negative trust on two people who complained about being scammed). This puts it in unambiguous scam territory.

My hypothesis is that MP will/is buy backing back the now worthless rubies for cents on the dollar and then once they acquire enough announce they are "now" honoring their promise, and thus they did nothing wrong and banking on people forgetting how they screwed their most loyal customers.

nothing will help Moneypot! even they pay back the promised compensations for Investors no one should trust them!

regarding RBIES I would say: as soon Dogedigital aka moneypot declined to keep his floor promise it was a SCAM

your hypothesis is also mine, but also this scenario will not help them! only Idiots will trust them. actually they killed themselves! it was the price for the robbery they did.

Dogedigital aka moneypot is a SCAMMER. IMO he should get more red trust from other users!

Great logic!

So according to you, regardless of what they do, Moneypot will always be seen as scammers?

They seem like pretty poor scammers to me.

If the intent was to scam, why not just have a whale wipe out the entire bankroll instead of divesting people out?

If the case they're involved in is a slam dunk and the one side of the story is completely true, why wasn't a judgment made already?  If the user making the claims wasn't actually just lying his ass off and that the inevitable ruling that was going to be made was that the user gets paid 103 Bitcoin, why even expand into different projects and development?  Waste of time.  This guy is totally telling the whole truth and everyone following based on his words rightfully should ruin the Moneypot brand based off just his own story.  Why not just disappear or scam way earlier when the case was already known.  Seems like their only real opportunity was to scam funds with the current model.   Bad scamming move to force investors to divest and pay them out. 

Why would they have no restrictions on the compensation bonus for investors?  Why even announce one in the first place if the goal is to scam? Quite dumb to commit yourselves to paying people in the future while getting nothing in return.  Surely it'd make sense to force people to stay invested to qualify or find reasons not to divest people if they wanted to scam people.  I don't recall them doing that.  Missing more scam potential there.  Rookies.

Why would they not sell any rubies if they just wanted to scam?  Seems awfully stupid to buy up a bunch rubies where a ton of people profit and they're themselves stuck with a bag that everyone wants to destroy.  It might also be a good scam if they had a premine, but it's not even their coin and purchased coins in the free market like everyone else.  The scam play would have been to announce an even higher price floor and then sell the coins when the market buys in.  Such amateur scammers. 

What about the ICO?  Do you think the best scam play was to have trusted escrows hold funds and have a detailed approval process to justify any purchase or transfer made?  Terrible idea.  The best scam move might have been to just have it written so that it's technically a loan given to them and have full control over it all with a loose obligation to owe it while being anonymous... oh wait that's another site.  The scamming doesn't seem to be up to that level yet.  Keep trying harder guys.

Pretty bad scamming move to not be anonymous too, especially considering they're registered in a first world country with real names attached and active eyes from Canadian securities regulators and lawmakers.  I know the first thing scammers do is put a real name and face to the projects and decisions they make right?  These guys need to be better at scamming.

Naw, You're totally right.  This is all looks like a master plan, a well thought up and detailed plan to extract money from people in the most efficient and optimal way... and it looks like the genius scammer behind it all is dogedigital. 

Let's all rally our pitch forks and attack the one person left that has been communicating and trying to improve the product and get things done in the end.  In fact, let's take it so far that it's to a point of constant harassing and stalking where death threats, extortion attempts, and social engineering become a common occurrence for him.   Let's ruin his future career options by plastering the word scammer everywhere in unproven claims.  Hey, he fucking deserves it right?  Serves him right for investing all his time and money into the project with no salary or dividends received.   And hey, even if he does end up pulling everything off through all the bullshit we will and are entitled to give him, let's call him a scammer anyways.   

I love that we can all see the full perspective and debate respectively about what may or may not have happened... and that is that there really is only one true way it could be.  Moneypot and dogedigital are scammers and no matter what they do, say, or eventually prove even in a professional legal system will ever change that.

Logic 101. 

[SyGambler]

actually I kinda agree the most with the brand new account up there , the situation is kinda complicated but I'm sure moneypot owners aren't scammers
things just went wrong for them and they aren't hiding but they are saying that they will pay in the future when the site generates some profit

keeping attacking the site won't solve the problem , it will make it worse since if moneypot failed not only the old investors will get screwed but also the new investors that have invested in MBI as well ( I'm one of them )

the best thing is just to give it  sometime cause there is no other thing that can help in this matter except time

[RHavar]

If the intent was to scam, why not just have a whale wipe out the entire bankroll instead of divesting people out?

Did you by any chance see the investor profit chart? It's not proof of foul play, but I would be willing to be it wasn't on the up and up. It's not an understatement to say it got continually pillaged in a way (that as a casino owner of 3+ years) have never seen.

If the case they're involved in is a slam dunk and the one side of the story is completely true, why wasn't a judgment made already?  If the user making the claims wasn't actually just lying his ass off and that the inevitable ruling that was going to be made was that the user gets paid 103 Bitcoin, why even expand into different projects and development?  Waste of time.

No one even knows the structure of the MoneyPot company  (especially so after the "acquisition" )

Why would they not sell any rubies if they just wanted to scam?  Seems awfully stupid to buy up a bunch rubies where a ton of people profit and they're themselves stuck with a bag that everyone wants to destroy.  It might also be a good scam if they had a premine, but it's not even their coin and purchased coins in the free market like everyone else.  The scam play would have been to announce an even higher price floor and then sell the coins when the market buys in.  Such amateur scammers.  

rubies was literally like a 100% a premine, and MP owns(owned?) half (?) of betterbets which allowed them to profit off it. It would be awfully naive to think that MP decided to pump rubies out of the good of their hearts.

What about the ICO?  Do you think the best scam play was to have trusted escrows hold funds and have a detailed approval process to justify any purchase or transfer made?  Terrible idea.  The best scam move might have been to just have it written so that it's technically a loan given to them and have full control over it all with a loose obligation to owe it while being anonymous... oh wait that's another site.  The scamming doesn't seem to be up to that level yet.  Keep trying harder guys.

The use of "trusted escrows" in the ICO was clearly just a plan to try make the ICO look more legitimate. It's pretty common, and generally the escrow agents are bound such that they can offer no material protections to investors (actually why I have refused to act as escrow in a large amount of ICOs)

It's also clear now that at the time of the ICO moneypot was insolvent (and not disclosing this to investors). The whole thing was obviously done in bad faith

Pretty bad scamming move to not be anonymous too, especially considering they're registered in a first world country with real names attached and active eyes from Canadian securities regulators and lawmakers.  I know the first thing scammers do is put a real name and face to the projects and decisions they make right?  These guys need to be better at scamming.

I think it's clear they didn't intend to scam from the get go, but they should be held accountable for what they actually did. In the real world, if you rape someone you don't get any points because you didn't kill them after.