Avalon 8 official specs released

[CryptoHodler30]

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Happy Holidays ,

Yesterday in  Hangzhou we announced our Avalon 821, and laid out the roadmap for the 841, 861, 921 and Avalon 10 series.

Avalon 741 is end of life: the last batch is being produced and is promised to customers/distributors who will receiving their final shipments shortly.

Avalon 761, our solution with integrated PSU  is likewise End of Life. The last batch is being built and will ship out in early Jan.

821:  The Avalon 821 will ship at 11 TH (terahash) and 1200 Watts for a power efficiency of 109Watts per TH, a great improvement over the 741 which was rated at 150 Watts/TH.

841: the Avalon 841 will ship at 13TH and 1200 Watts for a power efficiency of  92 Watts/TH. I expect this to be a Q2 Product.

It’s too early to talk about the 861 (integrated PSU), the 921 and 10 series, but 2018 promises to be a great year.

821 Prices:   We have not yet settled on price for 821, but it will be driven by market forces and the price of Bitcoin. Demand for product is more than 10X of the supply and the pricing in the spot market clearly reflects this. As well, the price of BTC has drawn in many new customers. As soon as I have pricing I will communicate it to you. Please do not ask for it, we will tell everyone at the same time.

Ship dates: After we finish the last 741 and 761,  the 821 will go into production in January. I wish I had exact dates, but as of today I only have estimates. We should be able to ship to a small number of customers in late January. We will contact the customers who have been selected for January shipment, so please be patient.

In February and March volumes will increase, but be advised that February has Chinese New Year and we will shut down between the 14th and the 23rd.

Distributors:  We are no longer accepting applications for resellers. Given the constraints in supply, we will only add a small number of new distributors. Hopefully in Q2 we will be able to open up the opportunity. If you have signed up, we will be going over our list and making our selections.

New Forecast:  When we have pricing we will be asking everyone to do a new forecast based on the pricing. A forecast is your estimate of how many machines you will order. Do not simply put down a large number to get our attention. We select customers both large and small and if you do not order what you forecast your entire order will be cancelled.

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[philipma1957]

Did you all see this info?

https://canaan.io/821annoucement/

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Happy Holidays ,

Yesterday in  Hangzhou we announced our Avalon 821, and laid out the roadmap for the 841, 861, 921 and Avalon 10 series.

Avalon 741 is end of life: the last batch is being produced and is promised to customers/distributors who will receiving their final shipments shortly.

Avalon 761, our solution with integrated PSU  is likewise End of Life. The last batch is being built and will ship out in early Jan.

821:  The Avalon 821 will ship at 11 TH (terahash) and 1200 Watts for a power efficiency of 109Watts per TH, a great improvement over the 741 which was rated at 150 Watts/TH.

841: the Avalon 841 will ship at 13TH and 1200 Watts for a power efficiency of  92 Watts/TH. I expect this to be a Q2 Product.

It’s too early to talk about the 861 (integrated PSU), the 921 and 10 series, but 2018 promises to be a great year.

821 Prices:   We have not yet settled on price for 821, but it will be driven by market forces and the price of Bitcoin. Demand for product is more than 10X of the supply and the pricing in the spot market clearly reflects this. As well, the price of BTC has drawn in many new customers. As soon as I have pricing I will communicate it to you. Please do not ask for it, we will tell everyone at the same time.

Ship dates: After we finish the last 741 and 761,  the 821 will go into production in January. I wish I had exact dates, but as of today I only have estimates. We should be able to ship to a small number of customers in late January. We will contact the customers who have been selected for January shipment, so please be patient.

In February and March volumes will increase, but be advised that February has Chinese New Year and we will shut down between the 14th and the 23rd.

Distributors:  We are no longer accepting applications for resellers. Given the constraints in supply, we will only add a small number of new distributors. Hopefully in Q2 we will be able to open up the opportunity. If you have signed up, we will be going over our list and making our selections.

New Forecast:  When we have pricing we will be asking everyone to do a new forecast based on the pricing. A forecast is your estimate of how many machines you will order. Do not simply put down a large number to get our attention. We select customers both large and small and if you do not order what you forecast your entire order will be cancelled.

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821:  The Avalon 821 will ship at 11 TH (terahash) and 1200 Watts for a power efficiency of 109Watts per TH, a great improvement over the 741 which was rated at 150 Watts/TH.


Well  it is nice  since it will still be able to run on a usa 15 amp 120 volt circuit


but it will be priced high based on what he said.

maybe 2000

[CryptoHodler30]

Did you all see this info?

https://canaan.io/821annoucement/

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 Canaan
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Happy Holidays ,

Yesterday in  Hangzhou we announced our Avalon 821, and laid out the roadmap for the 841, 861, 921 and Avalon 10 series.

Avalon 741 is end of life: the last batch is being produced and is promised to customers/distributors who will receiving their final shipments shortly.

Avalon 761, our solution with integrated PSU  is likewise End of Life. The last batch is being built and will ship out in early Jan.

821:  The Avalon 821 will ship at 11 TH (terahash) and 1200 Watts for a power efficiency of 109Watts per TH, a great improvement over the 741 which was rated at 150 Watts/TH.

841: the Avalon 841 will ship at 13TH and 1200 Watts for a power efficiency of  92 Watts/TH. I expect this to be a Q2 Product.

It’s too early to talk about the 861 (integrated PSU), the 921 and 10 series, but 2018 promises to be a great year.

821 Prices:   We have not yet settled on price for 821, but it will be driven by market forces and the price of Bitcoin. Demand for product is more than 10X of the supply and the pricing in the spot market clearly reflects this. As well, the price of BTC has drawn in many new customers. As soon as I have pricing I will communicate it to you. Please do not ask for it, we will tell everyone at the same time.

Ship dates: After we finish the last 741 and 761,  the 821 will go into production in January. I wish I had exact dates, but as of today I only have estimates. We should be able to ship to a small number of customers in late January. We will contact the customers who have been selected for January shipment, so please be patient.

In February and March volumes will increase, but be advised that February has Chinese New Year and we will shut down between the 14th and the 23rd.

Distributors:  We are no longer accepting applications for resellers. Given the constraints in supply, we will only add a small number of new distributors. Hopefully in Q2 we will be able to open up the opportunity. If you have signed up, we will be going over our list and making our selections.

New Forecast:  When we have pricing we will be asking everyone to do a new forecast based on the pricing. A forecast is your estimate of how many machines you will order. Do not simply put down a large number to get our attention. We select customers both large and small and if you do not order what you forecast your entire order will be cancelled.

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821:  The Avalon 821 will ship at 11 TH (terahash) and 1200 Watts for a power efficiency of 109Watts per TH, a great improvement over the 741 which was rated at 150 Watts/TH.


Well  it is nice  since it will still be able to run on a usa 15 amp 120 volt circuit


but it will be priced high based on what he said.

maybe 2000

Hey Phil - does this mean I don't have to put in 240 service? Or will the 8 series still be more power efficient if run on 240

[mikez_nj]

Fair. The price increase on the S9 definitely impacts calculations:

• S9 14000 GH/s @ 1372 Watts @ $2725 => .098 Watts/GH and $.195 price/GH
• 821 11000 GH/s @ 1200 Watts @ $2150 => .109 Watts/GH and $.195 price/GH

Basically, at $2150 for the Avalon 821, you're paying approx the same cost per GH, and it's only slightly less energy efficient. Anything less than that would be a win over the latest batch of S9s.

Mikez_nj, where did you find the Avalon 821 price to be $2,150? On their web page, they are only selling in bulk for 60 units, but without price disclosure.

https://canaan.io/shop/

I don't have a price. My point was that $2150 is approximately the inflection point where the value is the same as the S9 (solely based on the numbers) - so anything below that is a win over the S9.

The announcement this morning makes this much better.

[Flying Hellfish]

821 Prices:   We have not yet settled on price for 821, but it will be driven by market forces and the price of Bitcoin. Demand for product is more than 10X of the supply and the pricing in the spot market clearly reflects this. As well, the price of BTC has drawn in many new customers. As soon as I have pricing I will communicate it to you. Please do not ask for it, we will tell everyone at the same time.



821:  The Avalon 821 will ship at 11 TH (terahash) and 1200 Watts for a power efficiency of 109Watts per TH, a great improvement over the 741 which was rated at 150 Watts/TH.


Well  it is nice  since it will still be able to run on a usa 15 amp 120 volt circuit


but it will be priced high based on what he said.

maybe 2000

You can count on that one!!!

There was a lot of thought put into the wording of that release and breaking it down might help some folks prepare for whats coming!

When a company tells you there's a 10x supply/demand ratio skew, simple economics come into play.  Meaning in an imperfect market where demand greatly exceeds supply (like 10x!!) price is always set by the most optimistic of buyers.  It will always go to the 1 in 10 person willing to pay the most.  Anything less is money left on the table and NO company ever wants that, trust me on that one!  It's also important to notice their mention of spot price.  Their telling us they know what in hand units sell for so guess what, they want that margin for themselves and their distys.  No surprise really as this is what all companies do...

Lastly the mention of bitcoin price in determining price, if coins stay high so do machine prices, simple as that.  I don't see them caring much about being close to Bitmain in $/TH.  Of course the danger is getting to greedy and that is always the fine line.  Hehe but at 10x there's a lot of room to play and find out

You can consider that paragraph as the lube for whats coming  

[Didley1JT]

At the high value of BTC (currently... it's fallen 10% today, though), I would expect a price from distributors of $2000-$2200. Minerwarez and Blokforge are both listing the out of stock 741s over $1000. The 8 is MUCH more efficient and will fetch a premium.

I'll buy as many as I can get my hands on, provided the price isn't insane (BTC is falling, but BCH is surging over $4000 USD at the moment).

Priced at or near the cost of the Bitmain S9, I will go with Canaan for the simplicity of dealing with a Distributor in the US or Canada.

[Windiceway]

That's cool! I guess, it will be available for orders this spring?

[GbrilliantQ]

Outstanding news.  I think the age of sha256 miners being less than $2000 are on the back burner for now. At 2k the 821 is a great deal IMO. 

[QuintLeo]

This is far below what they forecasted last month (14 TH/s @ 1300W). I was hoping we might get a little more, not 20+% less. I love Canaan, but this is making me re-think my purchase plan for next year.

 I like it a lot better from the "not insane can only use server or VERY HIGH PRICE atx" power supply standpoint.

 Perhaps the posted spec is a BASE spec and you can overclock to get to the 14/1300 level?


 (edit) just noticed the 841 part of that one post - 13 at 1200 is pretty close to 14/1300, but I bet they have to use more chips running at lower voltage (and probably end up at a HIGHER COST) to get there vs the 821.

[livfreely]

So we are going to be seeing these sell out within minutes I take it?  I hope the servers for the distributors are ready to handle the influx of incoming traffic. 


I will be blessed to get a hold of one when they hit the market.  Of course you will have your resellers profiting from this as well, so it will be interesting how inflated prices will be on the secondary market. 

It would be great if BTC would take a pretty hard down swing just prior to the release 

[sb990]

so the avalon 8 will be using the socerer psu? and does that connect to 220v only or 110v?

[fanatic26]

so the avalon 8 will be using the socerer psu? and does that connect to 220v only or 110v?

The avalon 8 does not come with a PSU

[sb990]

so the avalon 8 will be using the socerer psu? and does that connect to 220v only or 110v?

The avalon 8 does not come with a PSU

yeah understand that, so is the sorcerer the best psu to use with it? sorry im a newb to avalon only know a lot about bitmain stuff so far

[Steamtyme]

yeah understand that, so is the sorcerer the best psu to use with it? sorry im a newb to avalon only know a lot about bitmain stuff so far

The sorcerer PSU, is just the one that they offer and is spec'd to run 1 of the 821's.

You can look for other server PSU providers to find something that will also suit your needs, especially if you want to run 2 units off 1 PSU. If you search the hardware threads you will probably find some good advice on what would suit you best.

I've picked mine up from Amitylabs ebay store, I've heard others say good things about parallelminer.

[sb990]

yeah understand that, so is the sorcerer the best psu to use with it? sorry im a newb to avalon only know a lot about bitmain stuff so far

The sorcerer PSU, is just the one that they offer and is spec'd to run 1 of the 821's.

You can look for other server PSU providers to find something that will also suit your needs, especially if you want to run 2 units off 1 PSU. If you search the hardware threads you will probably find some good advice on what would suit you best.

I've picked mine up from Amitylabs ebay store, I've heard others say good things about parallelminer.

yeah saw parallel miner looks pretty good, does the 821 run optimally on 220v or 110v? thank you man

[QuintLeo]

The 821 runs optimally on +12VDC.

 The power supply that FEEDS it might require 220 VAC, or might be happy with 110 OR 220 but will run a little more efficiently at 220.


 I expect the 821 to end up being ballpark $3000, possibly as LOW as $2500, based on current S9 pricing.
 Caanan/Avalon has always had a price premium compared to whatever Bitmain product they're closest too, unless they were a TON lower on hashrate, and I don't see them pricing the 821 much if ANY lower than S9 since they're fairly close on hashrate and efficiency.
 They might MATCH the price of the S9 due to the hashrate difference, but they won't go lower - Bitmain will tolerate "same price" most likely because they can point at the higher hashrate AND slightly better efficiency, but a lower price would probably prompt a price war.

[sb990]

The 821 runs optimally on +12VDC.

 The power supply that FEEDS it might require 220 VAC, or might be happy with 110 OR 220 but will run a little more efficiently at 220.


 I expect the 821 to end up being ballpark $3000, possibly as LOW as $2500, based on current S9 pricing.
 Caanan/Avalon has always had a price premium compared to whatever Bitmain product they're closest too, unless they were a TON lower on hashrate, and I don't see them pricing the 821 much if ANY lower than S9 since they're fairly close on hashrate and efficiency.
 They might MATCH the price of the S9 due to the hashrate difference, but they won't go lower - Bitmain will tolerate "same price" most likely because they can point at the higher hashrate AND slightly better efficiency, but a lower price would probably prompt a price war.

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[CM Australia]

The 821 runs optimally on +12VDC.

 The power supply that FEEDS it might require 220 VAC, or might be happy with 110 OR 220 but will run a little more efficiently at 220.


 I expect the 821 to end up being ballpark $3000, possibly as LOW as $2500, based on current S9 pricing.
 Caanan/Avalon has always had a price premium compared to whatever Bitmain product they're closest too, unless they were a TON lower on hashrate, and I don't see them pricing the 821 much if ANY lower than S9 since they're fairly close on hashrate and efficiency.
 They might MATCH the price of the S9 due to the hashrate difference, but they won't go lower - Bitmain will tolerate "same price" most likely because they can point at the higher hashrate AND slightly better efficiency, but a lower price would probably prompt a price war.

Agreed.
I think the 821 will be between $2500 and $3,000.
Very close to the S9 price.
Bitmain have just shown how that price point is acceptable to consumers by selling out so quickly.

I don't think a price war will happen yet though because the demand is way too high for ASIC miners and they don't need to fight for sales....They can't make enough inventory to get even close to demand.
I just read on another post that Ebang's next miner will be 14TH/s priced at $3680 with minimum order of 100 units.
I don't know if that price is correct but if it is and they sell out very quickly that will send a message to Bitmain and Canaan that we still havent reached the roof on the price people are willing to pay.

Just my two cents.

[Greenmine]

We still need more manufacturers.

[Patnmsmith]

Will the Controller for Avalon Miner 741 work with the 821 and Will you be able to hook up an A8 to an existing A7?