Why do most Bitcoiners seem intelligent?

[madmadmax]

I thought it was only a few $100k?

Point is that it wasn't 20+ million and they wouldn't get him unless so many people would push so hard, needless to say that if that happened with fiat it would take 1% of the effort.

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[im3w1l]

I disagree. I would rate it as, in descending intelligence

reddit
facebook
bitcointalk
pol

Facebook is of course special because your experience will vary a lot depending on who you know.

[Rassah]

I disagree. I would rate it as, in descending intelligence

reddit
facebook
bitcointalk
pol

Facebook is of course special because your experience will vary a lot depending on who you know.

Facebook doesn't discriminate based on interests or affiliations, so if you want to use the qualifier "most,"  I would say that "most" of facebook's users are just like average people, i.e. not intelligent.

[TheFootMan]

It's quite a futile exercise to rate different social media and the average intelligence of it's users.

Sometimes, you can find nuggets of gold in cesspits.

But in general, I find bitcointalk.org to be of a higher quality in terms of intelligent and challenging input than youtube. But true, bitcointalk have a lot of noise too.

There are some devs here that's really intelligent and also share their ideas and opinions with others. And in general you find people who dare to challenge the current status quo, and don't accept everything that govts do.

I think what you get out of this forum is mostly what you chose to get out of it. You could engage in challenging discussions, or you could engage in mindless trash threads, there's some of them as well.

[m4sterch3fed]

im afraid of this world if their are more people out there remotely close to mme 

[yayayo]

I disagree. I would rate it as, in descending intelligence

reddit
facebook
bitcointalk
pol

Facebook is of course special because your experience will vary a lot depending on who you know.

Using facebook is a sign of inferior intelligence.


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[iCEBREAKER]

This forum is filled with a lot of trolls due to very low moderation.

People who cry about "very low moderation" are really complaining about losing arguments and being unable to run to mods to demand they use their authority to intervene.

Bitcoin and bitcoiners eschew centralized power; few on these forums emulate your pro-nanny whimpering.

Most here are adults with healthy senses of humor, capable of laughing at or simply ignoring the occasional genuine troll.

[Lethn]

Most here are adults with healthy senses of humor, capable of laughing at or simply ignoring the occasional genuine troll.

For once I agree with you, I think what helps the Bitcoin forums so much is the fact that we have a functioning ignore function that way if you don't want to be forced to read someone else's posts, especially if they annoy you, they can be hidden, I find it difficult to believe anyone who thinks that any sort of block function needs to be removed has genuinely good intentions.

[iCEBREAKER]

For once I agree with you, I think what helps the Bitcoin forums so much is the fact that we have a functioning ignore function that way if you don't want to be forced to read someone else's posts, especially if they annoy you, they can be hidden, I find it difficult to believe anyone who thinks that any sort of block function needs to be removed has genuinely good intentions.

I'd donate, if donators had the option of disabling non-donators' ability to ignore them.  

I'd donate even more for 'Power Troll' status that formats my posts in a larger font, but only for non-donators who tried to ignore me.

Wouldn't that be the most annoying thing EVAR?  

[jarhed]

Argh!!
After this I'm ignoring the OP, thus erasing this masturbatory thread from my front page view.

Why I seem intelligent? Because I'm surrounded by idiots.

Are you feeling less pretty today? Surround yourself with ugly people.

Are you feeling unwealthy today? Go find some poor people.

Wanna know what's it like to be a god? Get monkeys.

[RationalSpeculator]

You may remember that when it started, Facebook was only between Harvard students. Rich, bright kids. Now that it's mainstream, intelligence level of the average user has come down dramatically. With BTC still in an early phase, intelligence level of the average bitcoiner is high, but this will not last, and nobody should want it to last.

It's awful, but if we want bitcoin's success, we want it to be used by dumb blondes, high school dropouts, sickos, Homer Simpson, etc...

Interesting how you correlate harvard students with bright, and trow high school dropouts together with the dumb blonds.

You might want to read some stories about Bill Gates, Steve Jobs etc.

[dree12]

You may remember that when it started, Facebook was only between Harvard students. Rich, bright kids. Now that it's mainstream, intelligence level of the average user has come down dramatically. With BTC still in an early phase, intelligence level of the average bitcoiner is high, but this will not last, and nobody should want it to last.

It's awful, but if we want bitcoin's success, we want it to be used by dumb blondes, high school dropouts, sickos, Homer Simpson, etc...

Interesting how you correlate harvard students with bright, and trow high school dropouts together with the dumb blonds.

You might want to read some stories about Bill Gates, Steve Jobs etc.

Bill Gates and Steve Jobs are not high school dropouts... In fact, Bill Gates is a Harvard student...

[RationalSpeculator]

You may remember that when it started, Facebook was only between Harvard students. Rich, bright kids. Now that it's mainstream, intelligence level of the average user has come down dramatically. With BTC still in an early phase, intelligence level of the average bitcoiner is high, but this will not last, and nobody should want it to last.

It's awful, but if we want bitcoin's success, we want it to be used by dumb blondes, high school dropouts, sickos, Homer Simpson, etc...

Interesting how you correlate harvard students with bright, and trow high school dropouts together with the dumb blonds.

You might want to read some stories about Bill Gates, Steve Jobs etc.

Bill Gates and Steve Jobs are not high school dropouts... In fact, Bill Gates is a Harvard student...

Let me correct that for you:

"In fact, Bill Gates is a Harvard student dropout."

High school means higher education in Europe (+18 year), OP might have meant people that drop out of school between the age of 12-18?

I think 'university' and 'school', on average, do more bad than good. Hence dropping out of it is a mark of achievement in many cases.  

I have the impression, which might just be me, that people with the best grades do generally worse in life later on than people with poor or average grades.

[dree12]

You may remember that when it started, Facebook was only between Harvard students. Rich, bright kids. Now that it's mainstream, intelligence level of the average user has come down dramatically. With BTC still in an early phase, intelligence level of the average bitcoiner is high, but this will not last, and nobody should want it to last.

It's awful, but if we want bitcoin's success, we want it to be used by dumb blondes, high school dropouts, sickos, Homer Simpson, etc...

Interesting how you correlate harvard students with bright, and trow high school dropouts together with the dumb blonds.

You might want to read some stories about Bill Gates, Steve Jobs etc.

Bill Gates and Steve Jobs are not high school dropouts... In fact, Bill Gates is a Harvard student...

Let me correct that for you:

"In fact, Bill Gates is a Harvard student dropout."

High school means higher education in Europe (+18 year), OP might have meant people that drop out of school between the age of 12-18?

I think university and school do more bad than good for the intelligence of a human being.

The use of Harvard, rather than Cambridge or Oxford, is an indication that the poster is American.

Also, I do not see how school does more bad than good for intelligence, though this depends on one's definition of intelligence. Most people I consider to be intelligent are well-educated.

[RationalSpeculator]

You may remember that when it started, Facebook was only between Harvard students. Rich, bright kids. Now that it's mainstream, intelligence level of the average user has come down dramatically. With BTC still in an early phase, intelligence level of the average bitcoiner is high, but this will not last, and nobody should want it to last.

It's awful, but if we want bitcoin's success, we want it to be used by dumb blondes, high school dropouts, sickos, Homer Simpson, etc...

Interesting how you correlate harvard students with bright, and trow high school dropouts together with the dumb blonds.

You might want to read some stories about Bill Gates, Steve Jobs etc.

Bill Gates and Steve Jobs are not high school dropouts... In fact, Bill Gates is a Harvard student...

Let me correct that for you:

"In fact, Bill Gates is a Harvard student dropout."

High school means higher education in Europe (+18 year), OP might have meant people that drop out of school between the age of 12-18?

I think university and school do more bad than good for the intelligence of a human being.

The use of Harvard, rather than Cambridge or Oxford, is an indication that the poster is American.

Also, I do not see how school does more bad than good for intelligence, though this depends on one's definition of intelligence. Most people I consider to be intelligent are well-educated.

I mean with intelligence, wisdom. Sorry if that was not clear.

Most people I have known that were well educated (high degrees/grades), were not wise, nor happy.

The explanation for that is that education is learning you to submit rather than think for yourself. To do as other people say, rather than follow your feelings.

I think school is a prison and university just a milder form of it. True learning is what happens when you follow your interests in freedom, like what happens here.

[BitChick]

You may remember that when it started, Facebook was only between Harvard students. Rich, bright kids. Now that it's mainstream, intelligence level of the average user has come down dramatically. With BTC still in an early phase, intelligence level of the average bitcoiner is high, but this will not last, and nobody should want it to last.

It's awful, but if we want bitcoin's success, we want it to be used by dumb blondes, high school dropouts, sickos, Homer Simpson, etc...

Interesting how you correlate harvard students with bright, and trow high school dropouts together with the dumb blonds.

You might want to read some stories about Bill Gates, Steve Jobs etc.

Bill Gates and Steve Jobs are not high school dropouts... In fact, Bill Gates is a Harvard student...

Let me correct that for you:

"In fact, Bill Gates is a Harvard student dropout."

High school means higher education in Europe (+18 year), OP might have meant people that drop out of school between the age of 12-18?

I think university and school do more bad than good for the intelligence of a human being.

The use of Harvard, rather than Cambridge or Oxford, is an indication that the poster is American.

Also, I do not see how school does more bad than good for intelligence, though this depends on one's definition of intelligence. Most people I consider to be intelligent are well-educated.

I mean with intelligence, wisdom. Sorry if that was not clear.

Most people I have known that were well educated (high degrees/grades), were not wise, nor happy.

The explanation for that is that education is learning you to submit rather than think for yourself. To do as other people say, rather than follow your feelings.

School looks much more like a prison than anything else.

My husband is a senior software architect.  He has learned that in hiring if the resume has "Masters" or "Doctorate"  he is less likely to want to even interview the person.  The main reason is that the person thinks he is smarter just because of the degree and is often so tied to what he "learned" in college without really working in the "real world" that the education becomes a negative instead of a positive.  He would joke with colleagues when he saw "masters degree" on the resume and then toss it in the trash.

I think sometimes the smarter you are the less the person wants to bother with "higher education."  Just my observations here.

[Anon136]

You may remember that when it started, Facebook was only between Harvard students. Rich, bright kids. Now that it's mainstream, intelligence level of the average user has come down dramatically. With BTC still in an early phase, intelligence level of the average bitcoiner is high, but this will not last, and nobody should want it to last.

It's awful, but if we want bitcoin's success, we want it to be used by dumb blondes, high school dropouts, sickos, Homer Simpson, etc...

Interesting how you correlate harvard students with bright, and trow high school dropouts together with the dumb blonds.

You might want to read some stories about Bill Gates, Steve Jobs etc.

Bill Gates and Steve Jobs are not high school dropouts... In fact, Bill Gates is a Harvard student...

Let me correct that for you:

"In fact, Bill Gates is a Harvard student dropout."

High school means higher education in Europe (+18 year), OP might have meant people that drop out of school between the age of 12-18?

I think university and school do more bad than good for the intelligence of a human being.

The use of Harvard, rather than Cambridge or Oxford, is an indication that the poster is American.

Also, I do not see how school does more bad than good for intelligence, though this depends on one's definition of intelligence. Most people I consider to be intelligent are well-educated.

I mean with intelligence, wisdom. Sorry if that was not clear.

Most people I have known that were well educated (high degrees/grades), were not wise, nor happy.

The explanation for that is that education is learning you to submit rather than think for yourself. To do as other people say, rather than follow your feelings.

School looks much more like a prison than anything else.

My husband is a senior software architect.  He has learned that in hiring if the resume has "Masters" or "Doctorate"  he is less likely to want to even interview the person.  The main reason is that the person thinks he is smarter just because of the degree and is often so tied to what he "learned" in college without really working in the "real world" that the education becomes a negative instead of a positive.  He would joke with colleagues when he saw "masters degree" on the resume and then toss it in the trash.

I think sometimes the smarter you are the less the person wants to bother with "higher education."  Just my observations here.

superiority bias. i think i'm smarter than you their for you dont have anything to teach me. these sorts of people may be ahead in the beginning but that attitude inhibits their growth potential and they gradually begin to fall behind. of course they never realize it but everyone else does and they end up becoming even more cynical, "they are all just too dumb to realize how smart i actually am".

[dree12]

You may remember that when it started, Facebook was only between Harvard students. Rich, bright kids. Now that it's mainstream, intelligence level of the average user has come down dramatically. With BTC still in an early phase, intelligence level of the average bitcoiner is high, but this will not last, and nobody should want it to last.

It's awful, but if we want bitcoin's success, we want it to be used by dumb blondes, high school dropouts, sickos, Homer Simpson, etc...

Interesting how you correlate harvard students with bright, and trow high school dropouts together with the dumb blonds.

You might want to read some stories about Bill Gates, Steve Jobs etc.

Bill Gates and Steve Jobs are not high school dropouts... In fact, Bill Gates is a Harvard student...

Let me correct that for you:

"In fact, Bill Gates is a Harvard student dropout."

High school means higher education in Europe (+18 year), OP might have meant people that drop out of school between the age of 12-18?

I think university and school do more bad than good for the intelligence of a human being.

The use of Harvard, rather than Cambridge or Oxford, is an indication that the poster is American.

Also, I do not see how school does more bad than good for intelligence, though this depends on one's definition of intelligence. Most people I consider to be intelligent are well-educated.

I mean with intelligence, wisdom. Sorry if that was not clear.

Most people I have known that were well educated, were not wise.

I'm not sure I would consider either Bill Gates or Steve Jobs especially wise. Each of them has made numerous questionable decisions.

Wisdom is something obtained through decades of experience. Some who are wise are also otherwise intelligent: philosophers are usually among societies' wisest, and they are usually considered intelligent by other metrics also. But many wise people are not especially intelligent by other metrics, and have merely grown wise with age and experience. A war veteran, for example, is often wise, but not necessarily intelligent by other metrics.

While it's true that schooling has little impact on wisdom, I do not see why it would harm wisdom. It's true that many wise people were poorly schooled: Jean-Jacques Rousseau comes to mind. However, many of the wisest people in history were exceptionally well-schooled: Aristotle, one of history's wisest philosophers, was schooled at Plato's academy—the highest education available then.

All in all, I feel that education carries little harm along with it—indeed, most who succeed are well-educated. Whether this is because of education or because of alternative factors (such as access to education) is not definitively known, but there is nonetheless strong correlation between schooling and productivity in later life. I certainly have not noticed a pronounced decrease in prudence or wisdom as a consequence of education; however, I am interested in any studies that argue the contrary.

[MrHempstock]

4chans /pol or reddit, facebook, twitter, pretty much any big community and/or social network people

These groups are not representative of humanity at large. At least, I hope to Eris they aren't.

They're not representative of humanity at large. They're representative of humanity at large in 15-20 years.

Erisian ideology is stronger than ever, because more than ever, society at large is supreme commander of fuckin' idiot. The dumber we are, as a whole, the smarter we, as individuals, think we are. That's the true cycle of revolutions, and why we're destined to become continually more stupid. The rise of Discordianism is nothing less than an indicator of an imminent cultural revolution. - And more pony porn.

Trolo-fucking-lo.

Fun fact: Disco kiddies are some of the angriest people I've ever met.

Also, stupid people have more babies. Probably because they're bored.
Intelligent people have less, because it's the intelligent thing to do.
  Result = general IQ is plummeting, and that's perfectly fine with The Powers That Be.
I know I don't like it when my sheep question me.

[EscrowBTC]

"Seem"

That's well said!