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September 30, 2013, 09:23:16 PM
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Any chance Fabrizio Tatti = Samuel Noi?
Both are Italians, both live and work in Shenzhen, China.

We now have direct evidence that Fabrizio = Sam

<agath> (who are you?)
[02:17] <route69> (I am) Fabrizio Tatti
[02:19] <route69> ...here I am writing, but with the name of the nominee director that I took the company in Hong Kong
translation: I am posing as the nominee director (listed as Sam Noi)
[02:20] <route69> because I want to avoid direct exposure, various risks, etc.
[02:20] <route69> in any case then I answer it legally
[02:20] <route69> for anything, even if there is a nominee director
[02:21] <route69> my name came up in the thread anyway
[02:21] <route69> + forward
[02:21] <route69> but it was obvious, however, the intention is not to hide, but avoid direct exposure

We have direct evidence Alessia operated the Labcoin account.
The Alberto Armandi connection is circumstantial but he is the Tatti's brother in law and operated a major bitcoin scam. Where there is smoke, there's fire.
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September 30, 2013, 09:25:42 PM
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So Q/A complete fail lmfao, just wow. We have nothing, 20K chips send to third party people. What ever happened to the 100K chips they ordered? they only have 20k broken chips lol. Sorry we are so retarded that we don't test the chips before we package them WTF??

Why you never invest in businesses run by italians, shady, take 5 hour breaks during the day, lazy, and miss deadlines
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September 30, 2013, 09:25:58 PM
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He has not broken any promises as he hasn't made any promises.  To do that you need to say, 'I promise...'. 

here's one:
We promise pictures of some boards mining will be up for this weekend.

 and what about these?

The website will be updated this week in order to show our live hashing rate

We're mining in solo mode but live hashrate will be shown on our website next week.

we will deploy the same mechanism ASICMINER uses for signing found blocks and publish them on our website.

We will post board picture and more within the weekend, and as soon as we reach 10 TH of deployed hardware block labeling will be mirrored on the site with other stats like speed, etc.

We promise pictures of some boards mining will be up for this weekend.

We do not have 10 TH of chips out of nowhere, we said that we will setup block labeling as soon as we reach that speed, which could be on the first days of october, so in "about" two weeks, or mid october.

The next update will include a mining address as well.

Next proof to be posted will be mining address, clearly showing the rate of blocks creation.

Mining address will be posted publicly before Wednesday. This will allow transparent monitoring of the hashing rate and block generation.

First dividend payment is due  on tuesday 17 September

We haven't failed to deliver, the fact that we aren't posting more pictures isn't proof that we are not mining. We are indeed mining but there are issues to solved before we get to labeling blocks, as we said.

Dividend day was previously miscalculated, i apologize, expect the first payment on Tue 24/9 and mining address proof in less than 24 hours as promised.

Of course anyone can create and sign an address, I do not expect this to do anything until the point that mining starts.

we advise anyone to purchase more shares now that they are cheap.

We haven't failed to deliver, the fact that we aren't posting more pictures isn't proof that we are not mining.
We are indeed mining but there are issues to solved before we get to labeling blocks, as we said.

According to Sam, more hash rate will be deployed daily.

Even though I don't like making promises but Sam has assured me that 20TH is a goal that will not be missed within 2 weeks.

Hashing rate will be visible again on the pool in about one hour, we are having again stability issue, working on that. 
Again,we remind everyone that we will bring online about 20 TH within October.

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September 30, 2013, 09:27:16 PM
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The funny thing is all those promises in the Q/A will be forgotten or completely ignored lol, this thing is going to plunge so hard before BTCT closing lol.
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September 30, 2013, 09:27:32 PM
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Ok... my take is that lots of promises were made but he couldn't deliver. On purpose? Maybe yes, maybe not. If you look at other ASIC companies they ALL had issues and delays too.

The reason for the poor communication and poor management? It's a SINGLE guy doing Labcoin as a side project. Is it wrong to do this as a side project? Maybe yes, maybe not.

Lots of promises were made... but the guy did show up. Late as usual, but he did.

So my veredict? I think before the chat there was a 5% chance of Labcoin turning things around, that chance is now 15%. But that's my opinion of course.

I think its more like 50%, the guy is going to send kit to the 7, he is willing to take on a board of shareholders & if he cant fix the issue through outsourcing he will reach out to the community, im buying more - Fuck it, 20TH is worth 5 X what we are @ now

This is absolutely true.  Look, at the end of the day Labcoin Sam told us what the issues are and what is being done about it.  It's clearly not a scam and people, I believe, are opening their eyes to that.

20TH/s is on the menu and I'm hungry!  Grin

So all that was produced was TALK?

And now it's not a scam?

Sorry I can't follow that logic.

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September 30, 2013, 09:28:04 PM
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This is absolutely true.  Look, at the end of the day Labcoin Sam told us what the issues are and what is being done about it.  It's clearly not a scam and people, I believe, are opening their eyes to that.

It clearly IS a scam.  He gives you a whole list of new promises to string you along, and the deadlines are all AFTER THE EXCHANGE CLOSES, so you can't dump your shares.  

Do you have his ID?  any personal information?  How about a way to contact him?  verification that he has the chips?

How about those guarantees he gave, are they legally binding?  If so, how so?

So, what do you have?  nothing


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September 30, 2013, 09:29:49 PM
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No, I didn't make it up. theymos can confirm it for you.
Anyway you are free to carry on with your business, if you think this is a winner nobody can take that away from you  Kiss

I would like very much to see a confirmation of that. If confirmed, all the other discussions become moot, there can not be a shred of doubt this being a scam.
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September 30, 2013, 09:33:37 PM
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This is absolutely true.  Look, at the end of the day Labcoin Sam told us what the issues are and what is being done about it.  It's clearly not a scam and people, I believe, are opening their eyes to that.

It clearly IS a scam.  He gives you a whole list of new promises to string you along, and the deadlines are all AFTER THE EXCHANGE CLOSES, so you can't dump your shares.  

Do you have his ID?  any personal information?  How about a way to contact him?  verification that he has the chips?

How about those guarantees he gave, are they legally binding?  If so, how so?

So, what do you have?  nothing



It's all promises from an Italian scammer lol, please make sure you don't sell your shares now, but sell them for a 70% loss to keep things in normal operation for LAbcoin
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September 30, 2013, 09:34:58 PM
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It's all promises from an Italian scammer lol, please make sure you don't sell your shares now, but sell them for a 70% loss to keep things in normal operation for LAbcoin

yeah, hold on to them on Oct 7, and see what happens...  70% loss is better than 100%.

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September 30, 2013, 09:37:53 PM
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No, I didn't make it up. theymos can confirm it for you.
Anyway you are free to carry on with your business, if you think this is a winner nobody can take that away from you  Kiss

I would like very much to see a confirmation of that. If confirmed, all the other discussions become moot, there can not be a shred of doubt this being a scam.

I just asked theymos, hopefully he can confirm the IP.
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September 30, 2013, 09:38:17 PM
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This is absolutely true.  Look, at the end of the day Labcoin Sam told us what the issues are and what is being done about it.  It's clearly not a scam and people, I believe, are opening their eyes to that.

It clearly IS a scam.  He gives you a whole list of new promises to string you along, and the deadlines are all AFTER THE EXCHANGE CLOSES, so you can't dump your shares.  

Do you have his ID?  any personal information?  How about a way to contact him?  verification that he has the chips?

So, what do you have?  nothing


Its not just that but now he has a "3rd party" (that he wont name) to blame any further delays on. I expect this 3rd party excuse to be used for at least a few months. Its almost an out for him.
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September 30, 2013, 09:39:36 PM
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No, I didn't make it up. theymos can confirm it for you.
Anyway you are free to carry on with your business, if you think this is a winner nobody can take that away from you  Kiss

I would like very much to see a confirmation of that. If confirmed, all the other discussions become moot, there can not be a shred of doubt this being a scam.

Sorry for the ignorance but how would theymos be able to get the "uncloaked" IP of a user in IRC?

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September 30, 2013, 09:41:33 PM
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Labcoin will find a way to always have SOMETHING mining.. that way they can never be accused of an all out scam.
All they need to do is get 1TH/S up (from a cointerra miner?), and the share price will go up.  Labcoin sucks dirty ballz, but the price already reflects that

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September 30, 2013, 09:44:47 PM
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Samuele Noi.

Consider that about 3 people having a phone number in Italy have surname "Noi" (http://www.paginebianche.it/persone?qs=noi&dv=).
Pretty uncommon, isn't it?

That name sounds just plain fake.

Tinfoilery lesson:

Samnoi -- Phonetic spelling of Russian word "with me"
Noi -- Italian for "we," "us"
Sam -- sounds like "Some"

OoOoohhh Shocked
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Sam Noi = siam' noi = it's us

(siam' = siamo)

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September 30, 2013, 09:45:55 PM
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Any chance Fabrizio Tatti = Samuel Noi?
Both are Italians, both live and work in Shenzhen, China.

We now have direct evidence that Fabrizio = Sam

<agath> (who are you?)
[02:17] <route69> (I am) Fabrizio Tatti
[02:19] <route69> ...here I am writing, but with the name of the nominee director that I took the company in Hong Kong
translation: I am posing as the nominee director (listed as Sam Noi)
[02:20] <route69> because I want to avoid direct exposure, various risks, etc.
[02:20] <route69> in any case then I answer it legally
[02:20] <route69> for anything, even if there is a nominee director
[02:21] <route69> my name came up in the thread anyway
[02:21] <route69> + forward
[02:21] <route69> but it was obvious, however, the intention is not to hide, but avoid direct exposure

We have direct evidence Alessia operated the Labcoin account.
The Alberto Armandi connection is circumstantial but he is the Tatti's brother in law and operated a major bitcoin scam. Where there is smoke, there's fire.
So we can safely confirm Samuel Noi = Fabrizio Tatti now.
Well, it is a bit better than Samuel Noi = Alberto Armandi.
But why is there a need to lie to us again and again about his true identity?
Why is there a need to mitigate legal risk when he is running a legitimate business bound to success?

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September 30, 2013, 09:46:30 PM
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dunno when the pastebin between agath and the Tatti is from but...

che cazz' agath, ma ci prendi per il culo per caso?

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September 30, 2013, 09:50:41 PM
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This is absolutely true.  Look, at the end of the day Labcoin Sam told us what the issues are and what is being done about it.  It's clearly not a scam and people, I believe, are opening their eyes to that.

20TH/s is on the menu and I'm hungry!  Grin

HAHAHA, I hope this is you being sarcastic...

Several days ago, you were parading around this thread declaring their operation a scam, and telling everyone to sell their shares for ActM


ActM have the evidence, have the proof, have the real world partners, have the funds, have the bat cave, have the crazy professor and will blow this red-neck outfit clean out of the water.

If ANY of you are still invested in this third rate pile of shite in a few weeks time, you may as well never log back into btct.co, 'cause your money has GONE!!!!  Grin

Scam poll.  Scam or not scam?
Sorry, forgot to vote in my own poll, lol.






Scam

Labcoin knew EXACTLY what they needed to do tonight.  If they could have provided the evidence the community are crying out for, they absolutely would have.  No disputes.

The reality is they can't because they don't have the evidence to support their lies.

I'm calling this a scam.  Simple.

That's it.  I am out of this security.

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September 30, 2013, 09:50:59 PM
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If he's worried about his reputation being harmed by people saying Labcoin is a scam and being attached to it permanently, he should probably realize that either way someone is going to make a tenuous connection to his real name, anyways at some point. Even if it isn't proved, it would still do damage. So why not get in front and say I am this person.
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September 30, 2013, 09:52:28 PM
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Awwww I guess I missed the Q&A... that must have been entertaining.

So, how many of you bought back in on more empty promises?
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September 30, 2013, 09:53:18 PM
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perhaps zumzero got a nice amount of shares or btc from "Labcoin" to spread positive aspects ;-)

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