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Author Topic: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining)  (Read 1058520 times)
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September 18, 2014, 07:39:24 PM
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Like I said in the other topic, I've had Skype contact with Alberto. At one point he invited me:

[4-7-2013 3:16:52] Alberto Armandi: i will get you a nice accomodation
[4-7-2013 3:16:56] Alberto Armandi: at my family hotels
[4-7-2013 3:17:03] Alberto Armandi: not far my house

Also (this was about a Hotel booking site idea he had):

[9-1-2013 14:10:23] Alberto Armandi: if you have an hotel yeah, i got 2 accounts before, my family runs 2 hotels, now my father decided not to pay booking.com invoices LOL and they revoked access

And some more hotel talk:

[10-7-2013 21:37:46] Alberto Armandi: sardinia is a tourism place, look for it on the web
[10-7-2013 21:38:19] Alberto Armandi: when i worked at the hotel, i met countless NL mates
[10-7-2013 21:38:53] Alberto Armandi: i'm just at the south-west of sardinia
[10-7-2013 21:41:09] Alberto Armandi: just a couple years ago, last time i worked in the field, i had some guests from Sicily in the hotel Costa Antiga

I already offered to send some of the transcripts in for the Police report. But I doubt the information I have is new. It's not going to lead to groundbreaking discoveries.
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September 18, 2014, 08:03:11 PM
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Has his previous Bitdaytrade scam been mentioned to the police/lawyers too?

http://bitcoinexaminer.org/the-biggest-scams-in-bitcoin-history/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=93445.0

Edit: hopefully relevant... http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-ponzi-scheme-perpetrator-fined-40-million/

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September 25, 2014, 01:14:16 AM
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Do the police even care? its been a while and not arrest made? We might need a better lawyer.
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September 25, 2014, 06:45:49 AM
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Do the police even care? its been a while and not arrest made? We might need a better lawyer.
The Police aren't paid to care.. they are paid to uphold the law in their own countries.

I think the problem is that not enough people in those countries are making official complaints.

the FTC in the US only took action against Butterfly labs after they were bombarded with complaints and because Butterfly labs was based in the US.

Since Labcoin was based in HK and Alberto is now likely hiding in Italy. It really is going to take a lot of complaints from HK residents or EU citizens before the authorities get more heavily involved.

the US authorities are unlikely to get involved unless Alberto goes near America.

unfortunately none of the relevant authorities are going to listen to me no matter how many time I complain.. because I am neither an EU, HK nor US citizen lol...

the best we can hope for is that Alberto makes it onto an interpol watch list.. if that happens then he can get nabbed at any airport and then handed over to which ever authorities want to deal with him.

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September 25, 2014, 07:43:58 AM
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Guys... im part of LCSH, the group of users that decided to go after the scammer. Believe virtuals that some good news are there, though dont be too happy yet until a good ending happened. Lets say there is some hope. I guess you might wait some weeks since i believe in some weeks there might be already an update available.

slow process I understand. Im not EU HK or US either. what exactly will the charges be even? as far as i know sebastian ju is the only guy who has spoken to the italians. wasnt there a lawyer involved? what charges were recommended? Its one thing to rip people off with some hair-brained scheme and let it fall to the ground and go "oops! I / the BTC   Roll Eyes Tongue Shocked" It is another thing to prove fraud. what kind of evidence beside missing btc is there? Dont get me wrong, I lost big here too, I know I got ripped off, but I am unsure how we prove they intentionally set out to bamboozle us? Is what they did catagorized more as mail fraud?

what Im asking is; what is motivating the cops to action? what are they going to do if they catch him?

ALSO - They are saying this guy is alberto over in this other thread here --> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=793636.msg8941036#msg8941036

is there any truth to this or are they just joking about how obvious a scam it is?

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September 25, 2014, 07:54:08 AM
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I also would have filed a complaint with the police, but that shouldnt require a lawyer really, and I wouldnt have expected much result.

Instead, a petition with consob (http://www.consob.it/), the italian financial market regulator, and its Hong Kong counterpart, is much more likely to yield a result.
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September 25, 2014, 02:08:37 PM
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Guys... im part of LCSH, the group of users that decided to go after the scammer. Believe virtuals that some good news are there, though dont be too happy yet until a good ending happened. Lets say there is some hope. I guess you might wait some weeks since i believe in some weeks there might be already an update available.

slow process I understand. Im not EU HK or US either. what exactly will the charges be even? as far as i know sebastian ju is the only guy who has spoken to the italians. wasnt there a lawyer involved? what charges were recommended? Its one thing to rip people off with some hair-brained scheme and let it fall to the ground and go "oops! I / the BTC   Roll Eyes Tongue Shocked" It is another thing to prove fraud. what kind of evidence beside missing btc is there? Dont get me wrong, I lost big here too, I know I got ripped off, but I am unsure how we prove they intentionally set out to bamboozle us? Is what they did catagorized more as mail fraud?

what Im asking is; what is motivating the cops to action? what are they going to do if they catch him?

ALSO - They are saying this guy is alberto over in this other thread here --> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=793636.msg8941036#msg8941036

is there any truth to this or are they just joking about how obvious a scam it is?

You  might find this thread interesting: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=325431.0

We have a lawyer and we have many shareholders that claimed losses so that the police can work.

Im not sure if i should say much about proof and so on in order to not risk investigations. So i only would like to say that there are some good news that might find its way into the forum sooner or later. Of course... you know... good news are only real good news when they are certain. So i prefer not to say too much. In fact virtualspade would, most probably, give out news when its time.
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September 25, 2014, 10:05:21 PM
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ok- understood.
I am already part of the lawsuit. It will be good to hear what is going on when it is safe to tell, Alberto cant be that hard to find. I'm hoping for good news in the future.

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