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Author Topic: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining)  (Read 1039802 times)
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October 10, 2013, 05:07:28 PM
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Is that owner of  Labcoin run away Huh

Ok, it might not be clear to some people so i'll explain it to you. It's a scam.

Movement from address, if he pays out dics he is not runaway nor scammer as it would be weird at this point. Did he/them screwed up something badly yes but lets not judge too quickly
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October 10, 2013, 05:07:41 PM
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Amazing Company.
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October 10, 2013, 05:12:05 PM
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Movement from address, if he pays out dics he is not runaway nor scammer as it would be weird at this point. Did he/them screwed up something badly yes but lets not judge too quickly

The paying out of dics (aka divs) is part of the wind-down. He needs to give everything the appearance of an attempt at a legitimate company. That will be the cornerstone of his defence if he ends up in court:

'I tried to make it work but the business just failed, it's not a scam just a failed business, you can't convict me of being a bad businessman'.

So yes expect ever smaller and smaller divs until eventually one day you will get the 'Labcoin declares bankruptcy' statement. Then and only then can any legal proceedings begin. Untill then, 'We are just a business in difficulty'.
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October 10, 2013, 05:22:36 PM
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I just find that only Sam Noi is in the "List of key company principals" on btct.co.  Huh Huh Huh

 
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October 10, 2013, 06:01:14 PM
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money is moving round again

next stop btct!
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October 10, 2013, 06:04:12 PM
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Is that owner of  Labcoin run away Huh

Ok, it might not be clear to some people so let me explain it to you. It's a scam.
OK...Amazing Company.....
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October 10, 2013, 06:56:23 PM
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money is moving round again

next stop btct!


wtf are you talking about?

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October 10, 2013, 06:59:30 PM
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money is moving round again

next stop btct!


wtf are you talking about?

Follow the block chain
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October 10, 2013, 07:00:28 PM
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money is moving round again

next stop btct!


wtf are you talking about?

Follow the block chain

any address in particular?  Or are you going to keep being vague?

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October 10, 2013, 07:05:36 PM
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money is moving round again

next stop btct!


wtf are you talking about?

Follow the block chain

any address in particular?  Or are you going to keep being vague?

The labcoin adress
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October 10, 2013, 07:06:30 PM
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money is moving round again

next stop btct!


wtf are you talking about?

Follow the block chain

any address in particular?  Or are you going to keep being vague?

The labcoin adress

I deleted my bookmark to that address when I gave up on my shares.. mind sharing a link?

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October 10, 2013, 07:07:49 PM
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So still no word from Labcoin?

Now we know this is indeed a scam, what are the v large shareholders who lost 000$ doing about this?
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October 10, 2013, 07:09:17 PM
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https://blockchain.info/address/17psAW21J4twanAFWmbcd5WdX2pKeX3trm

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October 10, 2013, 07:09:42 PM
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So still no word from Labcoin?

Now we know this is indeed a scam, what are the v large shareholders who lost 000$ doing about this?

I believe someone should take some extreme investigative measures, that in include actually tracking down the suspect(s) IN PERSON to see what they have to say, and what they're up to (I'd like to see what they're driving).  This should probably happen after Oct 15th, though..

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October 10, 2013, 07:10:59 PM
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Are we getting listed on Bitfunder or Havelock?

Neither. You may get listed in the top 10 bitcoin scam list though

List it on mpex whistle

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October 10, 2013, 07:17:01 PM
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So still no word from Labcoin?

Now we know this is indeed a scam, what are the v large shareholders who lost 000$ doing about this?

Yes we have reported them to the HK sfc, if anyone wants to join, file a report here:
https://www.sfc.hk/web/EN/lodge-a-complaint/against-intermediaries-and-market-activities/complaint-form/

We also have a lawyer in Italy who is willing to explain our options there. I haven't PMd him yet though. Anyone want to reach out to him?:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=307983.0

We know Fabrizio is still in HK. Alessia is in Italy. Alberto is in HK or Italy.

I know some want to wait till the end of the month before taking action but it is good to start to take some actions now while the iron is hot.
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October 10, 2013, 07:19:30 PM
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Movement from address, if he pays out dics he is not runaway nor scammer as it would be weird at this point. Did he/them screwed up something badly yes but lets not judge too quickly

The paying out of dics (aka divs) is part of the wind-down. He needs to give everything the appearance of an attempt at a legitimate company. That will be the cornerstone of his defence if he ends up in court:

'I tried to make it work but the business just failed, it's not a scam just a failed business, you can't convict me of being a bad businessman'.

So yes expect ever smaller and smaller divs until eventually one day you will get the 'Labcoin declares bankruptcy' statement. Then and only then can any legal proceedings begin. Untill then, 'We are just a business in difficulty'.

True but the lies/deception about their identity is going to look really bad.
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October 10, 2013, 07:37:19 PM
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So still no word from Labcoin?

Now we know this is indeed a scam, what are the v large shareholders who lost 000$ doing about this?

Yes we have reported them to the HK sfc, if anyone wants to join, file a report here:
https://www.sfc.hk/web/EN/lodge-a-complaint/against-intermediaries-and-market-activities/complaint-form/

We also have a lawyer in Italy who is willing to explain our options there. I haven't PMd him yet though. Anyone want to reach out to him?:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=307983.0

We know Fabrizio is still in HK. Alessia is in Italy. Alberto is in HK or Italy.

I know some want to wait till the end of the month before taking action but it is good to start to take some actions now while the iron is hot.


Are you in contact with / part of LCSH on IRC channel labcoin?
If not, would make sens to coordinate efforts.

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October 10, 2013, 07:40:30 PM
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The paying out of dics (aka divs) is part of the wind-down. He needs to give everything the appearance of an attempt at a legitimate company. That will be the cornerstone of his defence if he ends up in court:

'I tried to make it work but the business just failed, it's not a scam just a failed business, you can't convict me of being a bad businessman'.

Courts arent that easily deceived, thats not what its aimed at. Just saying you tried wont cut it, courts will need to see bookkeeping to prove you tried and spent the money in the company's interest. If the money is just gone with no accountability, its fraud.

Rather than at courts, this is aimed at the infinitely more gullible bitcoin investor who they may hope to prevent from pursuing legal action. Frankly, if they get scared enough, I wouldnt be surprised if they returned a non trivial amount of money to keep up the charade. Its probably a lot better to walk away clean with "just" 3000 BTC in loot than memorizing your 7000 BTC brainwallet every day for the next 10 years in a Hong Kong jail.
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October 10, 2013, 08:20:47 PM
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Jeez,  hold off for at least a few weeks.  Since you've ignored the very reason I stated earlier I don't tink you have people's best interests at hand

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