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August 30, 2013, 08:38:45 AM |
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price is low, i'm buying now and stocking up, people will realize how hard this coin is soon and they wont be willing to sell low.
It is a bit sad really, people are letting them go for way too little. Either way, there is another exchange coming soon and pennies are one of the first coins they want.
I think now is the time to buy up the cheap Pennies at BTER.com before they hit PhenixEx, Cryptsy, etc.
Dat pump. Lol.
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barwizi
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August 30, 2013, 08:47:37 AM |
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price is low, i'm buying now and stocking up, people will realize how hard this coin is soon and they wont be willing to sell low.
It is a bit sad really, people are letting them go for way too little. Either way, there is another exchange coming soon and pennies are one of the first coins they want.
I think now is the time to buy up the cheap Pennies at BTER.com before they hit PhenixEx, Cryptsy, etc.
Dat pump. Lol. dat nfactor lol
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ChrisB92
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August 30, 2013, 10:53:52 AM |
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Dat lack of places to use the coin?
I don't mean to come across all negative (maybe I'm just missing the point), but where does the future of this coin (or any altcoin) lie if it's not adopted by merchants? Adoption of bitcoin, realistically, is thin-spread. Altcoins value just seems to be pinned to the BTC economy and are only mined when the rates are favorable for CPU/GPU miners to mine, then cash-out to BTC. The exchange rate of altcoins seems to be about 70% about difficulty vs current exchange rate, and 30% about how the market can be manipulated with pump and dump schemes.
Whilst the indivisible property of this coin is interesting, it does pretty much brick the coin from having any kind of widespread adoption. The minimum purchase price of *anything* can only be the value of 1 CENT. What use is that if a CENT becomes worth $10? No use - and (I don't think) it won't reach anywhere near that price, obviously, because of that fact.
I "cashed out" at a rate of 0.00051 BTC per CENT, currently (much) higher than they're being traded for on BTER. Sure the value will fluctuate as multicoin pools hop on/off board and more pump bs is spread via forums and chat, but this will only ever be a trader's coin.
Props to the dev though! Some great work with the concept, client, etc.
And just one last time - I don't mean to bash the coin, just annoys/humors me when everyone is screaming for others to "buy whilst their cheap", when in fact all they really want is to pump the price so they can cash out. If everyone should be buying right now, why aren't you? Unless you're one of the 4 buy orders on BTER...
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barwizi
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August 30, 2013, 11:52:23 AM |
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Dat lack of places to use the coin?
I don't mean to come across all negative (maybe I'm just missing the point), but where does the future of this coin (or any altcoin) lie if it's not adopted by merchants? Adoption of bitcoin, realistically, is thin-spread. Altcoins value just seems to be pinned to the BTC economy and are only mined when the rates are favorable for CPU/GPU miners to mine, then cash-out to BTC. The exchange rate of altcoins seems to be about 70% about difficulty vs current exchange rate, and 30% about how the market can be manipulated with pump and dump schemes.
Whilst the indivisible property of this coin is interesting, it does pretty much brick the coin from having any kind of widespread adoption. The minimum purchase price of *anything* can only be the value of 1 CENT. What use is that if a CENT becomes worth $10? No use - and (I don't think) it won't reach anywhere near that price, obviously, because of that fact.
I "cashed out" at a rate of 0.00051 BTC per CENT, currently (much) higher than they're being traded for on BTER. Sure the value will fluctuate as multicoin pools hop on/off board and more pump bs is spread via forums and chat, but this will only ever be a trader's coin.
Props to the dev though! Some great work with the concept, client, etc.
And just one last time - I don't mean to bash the coin, just annoys/humors me when everyone is screaming for others to "buy whilst their cheap", when in fact all they really want is to pump the price so they can cash out. If everyone should be buying right now, why aren't you? Unless you're one of the 4 buy orders on BTER...
Why do you wish to always equate an items value to fiat cash. The price is an expression of value in a given measure, yes under the dollar we would say it costs 10, but using our currency system, the price we accept as lowest is 1 cent. Attempting to compare types of currency that are so fundamentally different is a mud hole. Perhaps you should take time to understand that moving from one system to another requires re-thinking how we "value" things, not how we "price" them.
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ChrisB92
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August 30, 2013, 12:25:05 PM |
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You have to compare to fiat currency. The transition to global widespread cryptocurrency adoption can only go something like:
1. Places start accepting Bitcoin, pinned against the exchange rate of their local fiat currency (USD, GBP, etc). 2. Providers of services to businesses that accept bitcoin ALSO start accepting bitcoin. The first business in the chain then no longer needs to convert to fiat currency.
Phase 1 can't happen with an indivisible coin where the value of the smallest unit of the fiat currency is lower than the smallest unit of cryptocurrency. In our case 1 CENT = 0.0001 BTC. 0.0001BTC = $0.01188. $0.01188 > $0.01. Stage 1 can't happen, therefore it won't work.
Unless the entire world swaps to pennies overnight (so I can receive my salary and pay the bills with it), it aint gonna happen (and when it does, the value will go down, to allow 1 CENT being the smallest unit to "work"). Plus I think the name works against the coin - explaining a cryptocurrency to an average Joe is complicated enough, without trying to explain there are "other" pennies or cents that are in no way related to the pennies or cents they're familiar with.
What I'm saying applies to most altcoins - they're all tied to the value of BTC - it's just than the indivisible quality of pennies is just a further hinderence - but heck, at least the dev innovated a little rather than forking and renaming like 99% of other coins...
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barwizi
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August 30, 2013, 12:36:46 PM |
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exactly how many pennies do you own?
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ChrisB92
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August 30, 2013, 01:43:34 PM |
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None, now. You?
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August 30, 2013, 02:02:49 PM |
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None, now. You?
a few thousand
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August 30, 2013, 02:12:44 PM |
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Figures lol.
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August 30, 2013, 05:39:38 PM |
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None, now. You?
a few thousand Okay send me the thousand part and leave a few for yourself?
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"The Times 03/Jan/2009 Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks" 😼 Bitcoin Core ( onion)
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shakezula
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August 31, 2013, 03:53:09 AM |
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Beauty, thanks Cryptsy!!!
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August 31, 2013, 09:13:34 AM |
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Finally added
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August 31, 2013, 09:16:56 AM |
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Pennies are at a bizar low price right now Time to buy. And I really mean "bizar". Imagine, at this price you could buy up all Pennies for just over 800 Dollars.
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August 31, 2013, 12:10:04 PM |
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Very low price. Though the supply eventually will be high.
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shakezula
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September 01, 2013, 03:48:56 AM |
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Just put an order in for some physical pennies tonight. They will be minted in copper but I plan to make them very affordable (right now in the .1-.15 BTC range) as a collectable rather than a valuable weighted proof coin.
Should have confirmation of minting in the next few days and then will take reservations for the first batch if anyone's interested.
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September 01, 2013, 04:00:35 AM |
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Very low price. Though the supply eventually will be high.
Don't let the 1 billion cap fool you. At 1 block a minute and 1 CENT per block. That's approximately 525,600 CENTS created each year by way of PoW so it'll take over 1,902 years to mine all 1 billion. Unless you're immortal the cap is not going to be reached in your lifetime.
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September 01, 2013, 10:36:36 AM |
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Very low price. Though the supply eventually will be high.
Don't let the 1 billion cap fool you. At 1 block a minute and 1 CENT per block. That's approximately 525,600 CENTS created each year by way of PoW so it'll take over 1,902 years to mine all 1 billion. Unless you're immortal the cap is not going to be reached in your lifetime. Wow nice. Okay send me some BTC so that I can buy. and maybe I'm immortal
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ChrisB92
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September 02, 2013, 03:56:48 PM |
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This coin desperately needs some merchants/service providers on board to stand any chance of success... Value on exchanges at the moment is not looking good.
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barwizi
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September 02, 2013, 04:07:28 PM |
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This coin desperately needs some merchants/service providers on board to stand any chance of success... Value on exchanges at the moment is not looking good.
please leave it as it is, i want it to drop some more then i'll buy up all of it!!
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