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September 14, 2018, 05:03:23 PM
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I bought a TON of coins at 10x to 15x this price and I worry not.  But I don't spend more than I can afford to lose so...  and if it takes years to get up to a respectable level, then it is what it is.  Some people are in for a quick buck and some people are in for the long haul.  Seems like a long haul kind of coin to me.
Its not a situation of ppl in it for a quick buck. Am yet to see anyone on this thread complaining that they bought this coin for x amount price and after a few months,  its yet to pump in price,  that would be a scenario that correlate with the picture you painted. rather the issue is several missteps that could have been easily prevented by the dev that lead to a dump in price that was not organic,
 with several million coins in the hand of different actors who are not keen on improving the value/ Has the ability to manipulate the price for a really long time.
Hmmm then I would stop buying if I where you.  You don't seem to be having a good time.
I simply provided a statement that contradicts the spin you tried to weave.  You can take it however you want.  The idea of mindlessly shilling thru a hailstorm shouldn't be the only thing purported on this thread
Spinning, weaving, and shilling?  Am I a part of this grand conspiracy and I didn't even know it?  I need to start asking the dev for money for my services!
These discussions here in ARO are pertinent but countless coins go through this with bigger or smaller problems! When ARO was released, the market was set at another time! When buying some asset, you need to invest gradually to seize opportunities like these, where suddenly, stolen 500k appear and bring down prices. BTFD. Wink

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500K coins stolen by octaex was sold. Thanks to dev for doing NOTHING, thanks for not to burn coins on octaex wallet, there are still ~2mln 750K stolen coins.
worst devs I ever seen

so?  better the dumps happen now while it's cheap.  lol 500k for 1 cent USD? meh big deal.  the market seemed to have absorbed it, and there are more than enough coins (lucky not a crazy high amt) that even 2mil being dumped won't even be so bad IN THE LONG RUN/TERM.  many orders were filled too, so now have happy new ARO holders.  better the distribution happens now vs. later.  as we have said already, it is shit this hack occurred (on top of that miner guy selling his stacks here and there) but the decision was made and you have to move forward.  where was everyone to msg/advise the devs to fork it when they asked?  i recall only some ppl saying this and most were fine with NO fork.  perhaps at that time exit scam was not confirmed...but it was pretty obvious.  i dunno.  it pisses me off just as much as anyone how shit's going down but the coin/devs/team seem solid and not going anywhere.  thus this is a coin in its infancy and crazy undervalued now...i'm sure regular ppl are buying and whales are loading up.  it is a long term hold so no point crying re. these dumps now, i'm not.
 welcome to crypto...hold on tight or get off the ride.

  Dude you bought in real cheap, that why you all mellow about the bs and expect everyone to feel as such. I personally advised several friends to invest close to 5 btc when it seem the coin was really stable/ floor was at 1000 sat and i doubt you would be dis mellow about the situation if you got in around that price and know a malicious hodler still has 2.5 million coins in his or her possession. And this is just another player in the mix, it does not account for the main guy who has been dumping and is responsible for bringing this coin from a stable floor of 1k to lower 200 sat. So imagine buying this coin at 300-350( am not sure what you paid) and having it go to 1 sat  with no indication that it will improve from that value for a really long time ( and that several sat smaller than the scenario some of the older investors experienced) Also keep in mind the dump was not organic, but coordinated by one individual who was given the time to abuse the situation rather than taking swift action to protect the investors

 The fucked up part is you have a dev that overshilled this fucked up exchange to all newbies and personally vested their dependability on discord. I wonder how many investors where lead astray into losing money on that exchange cos they figured they could trust the exchange since the dev team was shilling/directing traffic to the site. then same guy intentionally allowed a miner to abuse the algo for several months and rape/destroy the value while allowing the miner to accumulate enough coin to control the coin's value for a really long time and we suppose to cont heaping praises cos he wrote a codes. When does the sheep wake up?

 When do we actually start holding this guys accountable for the several fuck up, everyone always yap that bullshit about don't invest more than you can lose, but the same fools cry about the volatile nature of crypto. In other for ppl to take this sphere serious, we have to start treating this projects, like we would treat any project on the stock index and you and i know that if a similar situation occurred on that ecosystem, this guys will be investigated for collusion. Though the proof might not currently be present, a lot of their action proves otherwise.

no, don't assume.  i have bought in as high as 1k sats too.  i have lowered my buy in avg by buying the past months, and now some at the dumps.  just like the post said above.  you have reiterated your thoughts many times now and we get it, exch hack is shit, miner setup poor and devs DID NOT react in time (i doubt they're scammers from interaction i have heard and had with them).  ppl back then seemed to AGREE with the move to not soft fork.  so then you can't change that now.  

i am SUPER ANNOYED the devs and exch didn't react in time, fucking right i am...but there's nothing you can do now to change that.  look the market dumped and you can see ARO has been bought up a lot by new hands....so nothing to worry about.  the market has moved on and so have many of us.  if you're in for the long hold then don't worry it'll go back up in due time (yes will take awhile but wtf can you do?).  i'm actually surprised they are dumping this soon and this much haha....in a few months time it'll be a non-issue at the rate their dumping.  fine with market as ppl will buy these up no issues, it's a solid project/coin and team and non ICO bullshit.

in a few months things can change drastically in crypto and with this thing at the fucking grave bottom, the only way is up haha.   the ppl yapping and crying as you say are not used to crypto yet by then lol....sorry but it's true.  i've been fucked/scammed and lost more times than i can count but you know what, once you learn/stick to it and make the right moves with some time, you can more than cover those losses (well, not right now though cos the market is dead for all lol).  anyhow i ain't gonna argue about it anymore cos i don't have fucking time, and you seem pretty set to continue venting about it.  

i'll just be here holding ARO and waiting for the turn around (which will come)  Cool - you do remember XRB (NANO) price right...?  Wink Grin

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September 14, 2018, 05:48:58 PM
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I bought a TON of coins at 10x to 15x this price and I worry not.  But I don't spend more than I can afford to lose so...  and if it takes years to get up to a respectable level, then it is what it is.  Some people are in for a quick buck and some people are in for the long haul.  Seems like a long haul kind of coin to me.
Its not a situation of ppl in it for a quick buck. Am yet to see anyone on this thread complaining that they bought this coin for x amount price and after a few months,  its yet to pump in price,  that would be a scenario that correlate with the picture you painted. rather the issue is several missteps that could have been easily prevented by the dev that lead to a dump in price that was not organic,
 with several million coins in the hand of different actors who are not keen on improving the value/ Has the ability to manipulate the price for a really long time.
Hmmm then I would stop buying if I where you.  You don't seem to be having a good time.
I simply provided a statement that contradicts the spin you tried to weave.  You can take it however you want.  The idea of mindlessly shilling thru a hailstorm shouldn't be the only thing purported on this thread
Spinning, weaving, and shilling?  Am I a part of this grand conspiracy and I didn't even know it?  I need to start asking the dev for money for my services!
These discussions here in ARO are pertinent but countless coins go through this with bigger or smaller problems! When ARO was released, the market was set at another time! When buying some asset, you need to invest gradually to seize opportunities like these, where suddenly, stolen 500k appear and bring down prices. BTFD. Wink

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September 14, 2018, 07:55:26 PM
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Bump in line with the current affairs. It's clear to indicate who is responsible for all this. I might even go as far as to state that they in collusion with all this actors and this is the new trend of scam been propagated, i just wish i had the evidence to support that thesis


@Islapdonkey You continue to lie and exaggerate as you've been doing for a very long time. There's a good reason you got banned from discord, although i had my doubts regarding this decision at first, your last messages here just prove it was an excellent idea.

Regarding the dump, it was to be expected considering the exchange was on maintenance for almost a month. There's not a single guy dumping, there are a lot of miners looking to cash in.

As for the price, it's not my job to pump it, keep it pumped or do ANYTHING to affect the price. The market should regulate itself, that's not a dev's job. There's no ico here so spare me with the demands to fix your price.

I'm sure you'll continue with the same bs, so this is the final message you'll get from me.

I wasn't expecting any message from you your honor, so you can save yourself the headache of replying. As for claims about lies and exaggeration, all one need to do is peruse this thread to learn otherwise. You actively promoted Octaex on discord/BTCtalk but when they pulled an exit scam, you denied culpability while one of your marketing admins (SLPTOME) made fun of members who use the exchange on discord.

  You  and most of the individuals on discord were aware that a lone miner was the main culprit for contributing to a major dump of the price from a stable point of 1k+ to the lower 200 sat ( other miners dump, but we all know who was getting most of the block and doing majority of the dump) shit that why you finally updated the algo Grin and even though the action of this individual was discovered early, you choose to do nothing about it to protect this investors who spent tons to maintaqin stability over 1k+, you waited for months, till the price was decimated to the lower 200s before taking action. One of your marketing admin even acknowledged that an immediate action was not taken. As i mentioned before, if your personal finance was involved, i doubt you would have taken no action in updating the algo while you watch your investment squander from a stable value of 1k+ sat to lower 200.

 So, i will repeat it again this was not an organic dump dictated by the mass which is inevitable, rather this was a dump orchestrated by one lone individual who was allowed to abuse the algo limitations for several months when his action could have easily been curtailed if the dev choose to take immediate action and update the algo to protect their investors. in any other institution except for crypto, you will be investigated for collusion but due to the nature of the scene, there is no proof to support the suspicion

 Again, this is like monero admins choosing to do nothing for months to update/ protect their investors when bitmain decided to release a miner that would have decimated the price. Monero still recorded loss that correlated with the current bear market, but if their admin had done nothing to protect their investors, the current price of monero would be beyond horrendous.

  So, no one ever asked you to pump the price, not once was it mentioned in any of my statement. Shit we all know you not investing your money into this project or you wouldn't let a lone miner get away with abusing the limitations on the algo for several months and destroying the coin's value. We all know its nothing but gain for you.
 The question is why you choose to do nothing about the algo limitation for several months (when you discovered/made aware that a lone individual was abusing the algo. You waited till this guy had decimated the price from a stable 1k+ to the lower 200sat and accumulated enough coin to shoot to the top of the leader board by several million coins before an action was taken) Now if that don't seem suspicion then i don't know.

  Its quite obvious from my several post that the dump i was talking about has nothing to do with today's dumps. Shit i been talking about it for days, rather its related to the dump due to lack of action from your end that enabled one lone individual(which is easily verifiable from researching block allocation and a constant topic on discord) to destroy the value of the coin for several month while accumulating enough coins to easily manipulate that value for a really long time. 

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September 14, 2018, 08:00:40 PM
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Comparing two coins that fucked their investor due to careless actions taken by their dev does not make it better. With XRB at least their is an individual to associate with the exchange issue, who am hoping will be charged in the future. With aro there is not even a culprit to register. I will keep repeating that i personally believe that this admins are in collusion with all the players involved and this is a new type of scam been propagated

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September 14, 2018, 08:41:58 PM
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4.5 BTC buy orders from mercatox contradict everything you say donkey.People have trust in the project and ARO is far from scam or whatever the hell you are talking there.

Smart people buy at this price and idiots complain on each page how their bag bought on top is going underwater because of some invented shit.
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4.5 BTC buy orders from mercatox contradict everything you say donkey.People have trust in the project and ARO is far from scam or whatever the hell you are talking there.

Smart people buy at this price and idiots complain on each page how their bag bought on top is going underwater because of some invented shit.


There were ppl buying/and still trading bitconnect when it was proven to be a scam.  Octaex just dumped this down to 80sat yesterday and still have 2 million untouched that could be dumped at any moment.  There were ppl buying in droves when it dumped from 1k to 800sat, then 600, 400, 300, 200 sat and so on. Every one anticipated that the floor was at each of those point. And similar statement about smart ppl buying at each point cos it headed back y up soon is littered all over discord.  

 The idea of mindlessly shilling thru a hailstorm is not the only reasoning that should be presented in this thread.  So presenting a total buy order of 4.5 BTC Grin as your proof that ppl trust the  project is quite laughable. Shit I invested more than that solely by myself and that is the number you post up proudly to back your statement.

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September 17, 2018, 09:59:39 AM
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4.5 BTC buy orders from mercatox contradict everything you say donkey.People have trust in the project and ARO is far from scam or whatever the hell you are talking there.

Smart people buy at this price and idiots complain on each page how their bag bought on top is going underwater because of some invented shit.


Just use the ignore button, bitcointalk is taken over by retards and bots. Just 2-3 people try to spread fud, ignore them and problem solved Smiley

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September 19, 2018, 03:44:09 PM
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Getting started guide with ARO

I remain bullish about ARO. Here is a quick tutorial on how to get started with ARO with all the relevant links.

1. First you will need a wallet to be able to mine into or to deposit coins you purchased.
Windows Light Wallet:
https://www.arionum.com/LightArionumC/setup.exe (Source: https://github.com/arionum/lightWalletGUI)

CLI LightWallet:
https://github.com/arionum/lightWalletCLI

Android Wallet:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=arionum.net.cubedpixels (Source: https://github.com/CuteCubed/Arionum-Wallet-Android)

MAC Wallet:
https://github.com/CuteCubed/Arionum-Java-Wallet

Create your wallet and copy your wallet address which you will need for mining. Print you private and public key and store them somewhere safe and offline.

2. Chosing a pool to mine to
If you are mining with just 1 CPU or 1 GPU you are a small miner and I recommend mining on the following pool:
http://aro.cool

Otherwise the following pools are recommended:
Official Pool:
http://aropool.com

OvErLoDe's pool:
http://arionum.rocks

HashPi's pool:
https://arionumpool.com/

No need to register: just point your miner towards the pool, indicate your wallet address in the mining software and you will be automatically paid.

3. Mining
Now you can mine. ARO is an original coin in that there are 2 different rounds: a CPU round and a GPU round. Names are a bit misleading as both rounds can be mined with either GPU or CPU or both at the same time. You will have much better hash rates during the GPU round, but so will everybody else.
Mining software manage both CPU and GPU rounds for you.
I recommend either of these miners:
miner by cryptogone
https://bitbucket.org/cryptogone/ariocppminer

miner by bogdanadnan
https://github.com/bogdanadnan/ariominer

Make sure you test both as depending on your setup one miner will be better than the other. They both have a 1% fee.

Make sure you compare performance for both CPU rounds AND GPU rounds as it could be that a miner is better in one area than the other.

To convert hash rate into expected ARO you can use the following calculator:
https://www.homologation-drone.net/aro/

4. Calculating profitability
Profitability can be calculated using my calculator here:
https://www.homologation-drone.net/aro/

5. Where to get support
The most active channel for support is discord.
https://arionum.info/discord/

6. Buying and selling ARO
The are currently 2 channels to buy or sell ARO:
Mercatox (recommended options)
https://mercatox.com/exchange/ARO/BTC

and through escrow through the discord #trading channel (quite slow but no commission - this is mostly used when Mercatox is in maintenance)
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^thank you, nice work mate.

can we get ARO on hitbtc maybe to start with?  then aim high for 2019...

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Getting started guide with ARO

I remain bullish about ARO. Here is a quick tutorial on how to get started with ARO with all the relevant links.

1. First you will need a wallet to be able to mine into or to deposit coins you purchased.
Windows Light Wallet:
https://www.arionum.com/LightArionumC/setup.exe (Source: https://github.com/arionum/lightWalletGUI)

CLI LightWallet:
https://github.com/arionum/lightWalletCLI

Android Wallet:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=arionum.net.cubedpixels (Source: https://github.com/CuteCubed/Arionum-Wallet-Android)

MAC Wallet:
https://github.com/CuteCubed/Arionum-Java-Wallet

Create your wallet and copy your wallet address which you will need for mining. Print you private and public key and store them somewhere safe and offline.

2. Chosing a pool to mine to
If you are mining with just 1 CPU or 1 GPU you are a small miner and I recommend mining on the following pool:
http://aro.cool

Otherwise the following pools are recommended:
Official Pool:
http://aropool.com

OvErLoDe's pool:
http://arionum.rocks

HashPi's pool:
https://arionumpool.com/

No need to register: just point your miner towards the pool, indicate your wallet address in the mining software and you will be automatically paid.

3. Mining
Now you can mine. ARO is an original coin in that there are 2 different rounds: a CPU round and a GPU round. Names are a bit misleading as both rounds can be mined with either GPU or CPU or both at the same time. You will have much better hash rates during the GPU round, but so will everybody else.
Mining software manage both CPU and GPU rounds for you.
I recommend either of these miners:
miner by cryptogone
https://bitbucket.org/cryptogone/ariocppminer

miner by bogdanadnan
https://github.com/bogdanadnan/ariominer

Make sure you test both as depending on your setup one miner will be better than the other. They both have a 1% fee.

Make sure you compare performance for both CPU rounds AND GPU rounds as it could be that a miner is better in one area than the other.

To convert hash rate into expected ARO you can use the following calculator:
https://www.homologation-drone.net/aro/

4. Calculating profitability
Profitability can be calculated using my calculator here:
https://www.homologation-drone.net/aro/

5. Where to get support
The most active channel for support is discord.
https://arionum.info/discord/

6. Buying and selling ARO
The are currently 2 channels to buy or sell ARO:
Mercatox (recommended options)
https://mercatox.com/exchange/ARO/BTC

and through escrow through the discord #trading channel (quite slow but no commission - this is mostly used when Mercatox is in maintenance)

Great tutorial
Thanks

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We can all stay bullish all we want, doesn't change the fact that the coin still still heavily been dumped on and alot of ppl have lost significant amount of money investing in this project. It would be fair if the culprit that stole others ppl coin does not have several million coins waiting in storage to dump at any moment, or the individual who was allowed to abuse the limitation of the algo does not have several million coins in possession and can control the value for a really long time. So, we all can scream about been bullish, then there is reality.


@Islapdonkey You continue to lie and exaggerate as you've been doing for a very long time. There's a good reason you got banned from discord, although i had my doubts regarding this decision at first, your last messages here just prove it was an excellent idea.

Regarding the dump, it was to be expected considering the exchange was on maintenance for almost a month. There's not a single guy dumping, there are a lot of miners looking to cash in.

As for the price, it's not my job to pump it, keep it pumped or do ANYTHING to affect the price. The market should regulate itself, that's not a dev's job. There's no ico here so spare me with the demands to fix your price.

I'm sure you'll continue with the same bs, so this is the final message you'll get from me.

I wasn't expecting any message from you your honor, so you can save yourself the headache of replying. As for claims about lies and exaggeration, all one need to do is peruse this thread to learn otherwise. You actively promoted Octaex on discord/BTCtalk but when they pulled an exit scam, you denied culpability while one of your marketing admins (SLPTOME) made fun of members who use the exchange on discord.

  You  and most of the individuals on discord were aware that a lone miner was the main culprit for contributing to a major dump of the price from a stable point of 1k+ to the lower 200 sat ( other miners dump, but we all know who was getting most of the block and doing majority of the dump) shit that why you finally updated the algo Grin and even though the action of this individual was discovered early, you choose to do nothing about it to protect this investors who spent tons to maintaqin stability over 1k+, you waited for months, till the price was decimated to the lower 200s before taking action. One of your marketing admin even acknowledged that an immediate action was not taken. As i mentioned before, if your personal finance was involved, i doubt you would have taken no action in updating the algo while you watch your investment squander from a stable value of 1k+ sat to lower 200.

 So, i will repeat it again this was not an organic dump dictated by the mass which is inevitable, rather this was a dump orchestrated by one lone individual who was allowed to abuse the algo limitations for several months when his action could have easily been curtailed if the dev choose to take immediate action and update the algo to protect their investors. in any other institution except for crypto, you will be investigated for collusion but due to the nature of the scene, there is no proof to support the suspicion

 Again, this is like monero admins choosing to do nothing for months to update/ protect their investors when bitmain decided to release a miner that would have decimated the price. Monero still recorded loss that correlated with the current bear market, but if their admin had done nothing to protect their investors, the current price of monero would be beyond horrendous.

 So, no one ever asked you to pump the price, not once was it mentioned in any of my statement. Shit we all know you not investing your money into this project or you wouldn't let a lone miner get away with abusing the limitations on the algo for several months and destroying the coin's value. We all know its nothing but gain for you.
 The question is why you choose to do nothing about the algo limitation for several months (when you discovered/made aware that a lone individual was abusing the algo. You waited till this guy had decimated the price from a stable 1k+ to the lower 200sat and accumulated enough coin to shoot to the top of the leader board by several million coins before an action was taken) Now if that don't seem suspicion then i don't know.

  Its quite obvious from my several post that the dump i was talking about has nothing to do with today's dumps. Shit i been talking about it for days, rather its related to the dump due to lack of action from your end that enabled one lone individual(which is easily verifiable from researching block allocation and a constant topic on discord) to destroy the value of the coin for several month while accumulating enough coins to easily manipulate that value for a really long time.  

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September 20, 2018, 05:27:57 PM
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Exactly this. I am a huge fan of ARO but it's simple economics - there are massive whales hanging over this coin. People freaked out about the 700 mil - 1 billion dollar BTC wallet moving recently. If a single wallet controls a large percentage of a coin = manipulation is not hypothetical it is a very real scenario. It would be complete hubris to believe that the massive whales have ARO's best interest in mind for long term success. If ARO pumped to 1k sats, why wouldnt they dump? 10k sats? on and on and on... you do the math.

5mKUv6nXuCH8NMsc1CeEjmwVhgawPU3DTowP8j55hYA8BWz8e39UbuLK8gEWkDWJdNcZb38Pxxmfj1G XYMVJf389 MERCATOX ADDRESS   9381648.41505234
5exNCgMB4WtZproKKrae2CYXky5ZEJUWnpCw3FABbu5hMsGGvRf7QgDAYfpxJXyWUA9aPxNLicMNg96 ZKCW5DtYR   MINER "ZEAN"           5868174.75000000
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We can all stay bullish all we want, doesn't change the fact that the coin still still heavily been dumped on and alot of ppl have lost significant amount of money investing in this project. It would be fair if the culprit that stole others ppl coin does not have several million coins waiting in storage to dump at any moment, or the individual who was allowed to abuse the limitation of the algo does not have several million coins in possession and can control the value for a really long time. So, we all can scream about been bullish, then there is reality.


@Islapdonkey You continue to lie and exaggerate as you've been doing for a very long time. There's a good reason you got banned from discord, although i had my doubts regarding this decision at first, your last messages here just prove it was an excellent idea.

Regarding the dump, it was to be expected considering the exchange was on maintenance for almost a month. There's not a single guy dumping, there are a lot of miners looking to cash in.

As for the price, it's not my job to pump it, keep it pumped or do ANYTHING to affect the price. The market should regulate itself, that's not a dev's job. There's no ico here so spare me with the demands to fix your price.

I'm sure you'll continue with the same bs, so this is the final message you'll get from me.

I wasn't expecting any message from you your honor, so you can save yourself the headache of replying. As for claims about lies and exaggeration, all one need to do is peruse this thread to learn otherwise. You actively promoted Octaex on discord/BTCtalk but when they pulled an exit scam, you denied culpability while one of your marketing admins (SLPTOME) made fun of members who use the exchange on discord.

  You  and most of the individuals on discord were aware that a lone miner was the main culprit for contributing to a major dump of the price from a stable point of 1k+ to the lower 200 sat ( other miners dump, but we all know who was getting most of the block and doing majority of the dump) shit that why you finally updated the algo Grin and even though the action of this individual was discovered early, you choose to do nothing about it to protect this investors who spent tons to maintaqin stability over 1k+, you waited for months, till the price was decimated to the lower 200s before taking action. One of your marketing admin even acknowledged that an immediate action was not taken. As i mentioned before, if your personal finance was involved, i doubt you would have taken no action in updating the algo while you watch your investment squander from a stable value of 1k+ sat to lower 200.

 So, i will repeat it again this was not an organic dump dictated by the mass which is inevitable, rather this was a dump orchestrated by one lone individual who was allowed to abuse the algo limitations for several months when his action could have easily been curtailed if the dev choose to take immediate action and update the algo to protect their investors. in any other institution except for crypto, you will be investigated for collusion but due to the nature of the scene, there is no proof to support the suspicion

 Again, this is like monero admins choosing to do nothing for months to update/ protect their investors when bitmain decided to release a miner that would have decimated the price. Monero still recorded loss that correlated with the current bear market, but if their admin had done nothing to protect their investors, the current price of monero would be beyond horrendous.

 So, no one ever asked you to pump the price, not once was it mentioned in any of my statement. Shit we all know you not investing your money into this project or you wouldn't let a lone miner get away with abusing the limitations on the algo for several months and destroying the coin's value. We all know its nothing but gain for you.
 The question is why you choose to do nothing about the algo limitation for several months (when you discovered/made aware that a lone individual was abusing the algo. You waited till this guy had decimated the price from a stable 1k+ to the lower 200sat and accumulated enough coin to shoot to the top of the leader board by several million coins before an action was taken) Now if that don't seem suspicion then i don't know.

  Its quite obvious from my several post that the dump i was talking about has nothing to do with today's dumps. Shit i been talking about it for days, rather its related to the dump due to lack of action from your end that enabled one lone individual(which is easily verifiable from researching block allocation and a constant topic on discord) to destroy the value of the coin for several month while accumulating enough coins to easily manipulate that value for a really long time.  

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@everyone We have noticed the following announcement from Mercatox. ```News about Wallets Maintenance Dear Users! As you can see some of our Wallets are on maintenance. Please be informed that 17.09.2018 some of our hot wallets were compromised by hackers. We understand the risks that are hot wallets affected in, so we hold a minimum amount of funds that are needed for auto-withdrawal there. The most of the user's funds we are keeping on special storages (safe cold wallets). Also, we understand that hot wallets are at risk, and for such reason, our service has a reserve fund which uses to compensate the losses of funds on the hot wallets in such cases. At the moment we are investigating that incident and upgrading protection of some hot wallets. You can be sure that your coins are safe and you can trade in normal mode. Mercatox is here for you to make your trades comfortable and safe! The normal work of all coins will be restored soon. Mercatox team``` We have sent them an email asking for more information about the Arionum wallet and as soon as they reply we will let you know. Please be advised that we haven't detected any movement on their ARO wallet.


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Yep. Let's hope it's "hackers", and not "octaex".
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500K coins stolen by octaex was sold. Thanks to dev for doing NOTHING, thanks for not to burn coins on octaex wallet, there are still ~2mln 750K stolen coins.
worst devs I ever seen

so?  better the dumps happen now while it's cheap.  lol 500k for 1 cent USD? meh big deal.  the market seemed to have absorbed it, and there are more than enough coins (lucky not a crazy high amt) that even 2mil being dumped won't even be so bad IN THE LONG RUN/TERM.  many orders were filled too, so now have happy new ARO holders.  better the distribution happens now vs. later.  as we have said already, it is shit this hack occurred (on top of that miner guy selling his stacks here and there) but the decision was made and you have to move forward.  where was everyone to msg/advise the devs to fork it when they asked?  i recall only some ppl saying this and most were fine with NO fork.  perhaps at that time exit scam was not confirmed...but it was pretty obvious.  i dunno.  it pisses me off just as much as anyone how shit's going down but the coin/devs/team seem solid and not going anywhere.  thus this is a coin in its infancy and crazy undervalued now...i'm sure regular ppl are buying and whales are loading up.  it is a long term hold so no point crying re. these dumps now, i'm not.
 welcome to crypto...hold on tight or get off the ride.

  Dude you bought in real cheap, that why you all mellow about the bs and expect everyone to feel as such. I personally advised several friends to invest close to 5 btc when it seem the coin was really stable/ floor was at 1000 sat and i doubt you would be dis mellow about the situation if you got in around that price and know a malicious hodler still has 2.5 million coins in his or her possession. And this is just another player in the mix, it does not account for the main guy who has been dumping and is responsible for bringing this coin from a stable floor of 1k to lower 200 sat. So imagine buying this coin at 300-350( am not sure what you paid) and having it go to 1 sat  with no indication that it will improve from that value for a really long time ( and that several sat smaller than the scenario some of the older investors experienced) Also keep in mind the dump was not organic, but coordinated by one individual who was given the time to abuse the situation rather than taking swift action to protect the investors

 The fucked up part is you have a dev that overshilled this fucked up exchange to all newbies and personally vested their dependability on discord. I wonder how many investors where lead astray into losing money on that exchange cos they figured they could trust the exchange since the dev team was shilling/directing traffic to the site. then same guy intentionally allowed a miner to abuse the algo for several months and rape/destroy the value while allowing the miner to accumulate enough coin to control the coin's value for a really long time and we suppose to cont heaping praises cos he wrote a codes. When does the sheep wake up?

 When do we actually start holding this guys accountable for the several fuck up, everyone always yap that bullshit about don't invest more than you can lose, but the same fools cry about the volatile nature of crypto. In other for ppl to take this sphere serious, we have to start treating this projects, like we would treat any project on the stock index and you and i know that if a similar situation occurred on that ecosystem, this guys will be investigated for collusion. Though the proof might not currently be present, a lot of their action proves otherwise.

no, don't assume.  i have bought in as high as 1k sats too.  i have lowered my buy in avg by buying the past months, and now some at the dumps.  just like the post said above.  you have reiterated your thoughts many times now and we get it, exch hack is shit, miner setup poor and devs DID NOT react in time (i doubt they're scammers from interaction i have heard and had with them).  ppl back then seemed to AGREE with the move to not soft fork.  so then you can't change that now.  

i am SUPER ANNOYED the devs and exch didn't react in time, fucking right i am...but there's nothing you can do now to change that.  look the market dumped and you can see ARO has been bought up a lot by new hands....so nothing to worry about.  the market has moved on and so have many of us.  if you're in for the long hold then don't worry it'll go back up in due time (yes will take awhile but wtf can you do?).  i'm actually surprised they are dumping this soon and this much haha....in a few months time it'll be a non-issue at the rate their dumping.  fine with market as ppl will buy these up no issues, it's a solid project/coin and team and non ICO bullshit.

in a few months things can change drastically in crypto and with this thing at the fucking grave bottom, the only way is up haha.   the ppl yapping and crying as you say are not used to crypto yet by then lol....sorry but it's true.  i've been fucked/scammed and lost more times than i can count but you know what, once you learn/stick to it and make the right moves with some time, you can more than cover those losses (well, not right now though cos the market is dead for all lol).  anyhow i ain't gonna argue about it anymore cos i don't have fucking time, and you seem pretty set to continue venting about it.  

i'll just be here holding ARO and waiting for the turn around (which will come)  Cool - you do remember XRB (NANO) price right...?  Wink Grin

I agree with you! They would have taken immediate action to update the algo, if they actually had their own personal funds invested in the project but since that wasn't the issue and it was all gain, they did absolutely nothing. So no one was asking aro dev for a buy wall, cos obviously they weren't investing their own funds. The initial investors were providing the buy walls, till one individual discovered a way to abuse the limitation of the algo and destroy any attempt of creating a buy wall, no matter how big it was.

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The thing I am struggling with is these accusations that the algo was "abused". How is it being abused if someone has a large amount of hash power that NO ONE has absolutely any proof was not paid for?

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The thing I am struggling with is these accusations that the algo was "abused". How is it being abused if someone has a large amount of hash power that NO ONE has absolutely any proof was not paid for?

Well, there was no proof that monero v6 algo was "abused"...
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