The Pharmacist - Attacks Filipinos here in BCT

[Mind Control]

To The Pharmacist: Request granted.

The request:

You people are a bunch of pansies, wounded by words.  And if Filipinos wete any less evolved as a society, they'd all have fur and tails.  Their collective contributions to bitcointalk are ZERO.  If you can prove me wrong, do so in another thread, preferably in English.

Archived: https://archive.fo/QN9Jn#40%

The first direct attack:

Dude, lock the thread so as not to mislead these desperate shitposters--which are the only applicants you're going to get with an offer like this.  Nobody understands what's going on, and meanwhile the Philippines is starving to death whilst anticipating a bitcointalk paycheck.

Sad to say, but I'm loving the campaign UN-availability.  It's about time these sig campaigns have come to an end.  Perhaps the forum will shed these knuckleheads for good and for all.

Archived: https://archive.fo/JOfIS#60%

Directly stated that Philippines/Filipinos are "starving to death whilst anticipating a bitcointalk paycheck" and would only mean that Filipinos here are obsessed to be paid via bounty campaigns in this forum and are very poor (based from "starving to death").

He also may have indirectly called Filipinos as "desperate shitposters". Though this phrase may be addressed to everyone (who are shit posters, of course) but the fact that he singled out Philippines is just a clear form of discrimination and racism. (I am not saying that there are no shitposter from Philippines but there are shitposters from other countries as well.) Be fair, at least.

The second direct attack:

You people are a bunch of pansies, wounded by words.  And if Filipinos wete any less evolved as a society, they'd all have fur and tails. [1] Their collective contributions to bitcointalk are ZERO.  If you can prove me wrong, do so in another thread, preferably in English.

He called Filipinos monkeys. 1

He states that the "collective contributions (of the Filipinos) to bitcointalk are ZERO" while there are 2 Filipino Moderators in this forum. Namely Dabs and rickbig41


Words are powerful. They are sharp enough to cause wounds and could even kill. I respect opinions but yours are too offensive in my side.

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[actmyname]

Honestly, you shouldn't be mad at The Pharmacist but rather direct your frustrations towards the account farmers that perpetuate this shit. How many times do you see chum bucket scum posting all this asinine crap? Perhaps not all people from the Philippines circulate garbage across the forum and spew diarrhea out the wrong end, but you certainly do see a lot. Enough to make such a generalization.

It could be harsh. But doesn't this highlight the problem with the forum? Up to you to stop them from being dingos.Also, doesn't this shit belong in Reputation?

[Mind Control]

Honestly, you shouldn't be mad at The Pharmacist but rather direct your frustrations towards the account farmers that perpetuate this shit. How many times do you see chum bucket scum posting all this asinine crap? Perhaps not all people from the Philippines circulate garbage across the forum and spew diarrhea out the wrong end, but you certainly do see a lot. Enough to make such a generalization.

It could be harsh. But doesn't this highlight the problem with the forum? Up to you to stop them from being dingos.

Am I mad? Perhaps.

Do I approve shitposting? Nope. Others might label me as one and I don't care.

Do I shitpost? Yes, who does not 

The main point here is not about shitposting or whatsoever. The point is that The Pharmacist called Filipinos (in general) starving and obsessed with bounties, pansies, and monkeys. Do you want someone to mock a community you're in, in general? Hell no. That is discrimination and racism. Not to mention unethical.

[hilariousetc]

I don't agree with certain language he used and he could probably tone it down a little but this is just a symptom of people's frustrations here with 'shitposters' and the sad fact is that a good majority of them happen to be Filipino (along with other South East Asians such as Indonesians and to a lesser extent Vietnamese). Whilst The Pharmacist was probably out of line I kinda agree with actmyname that you should direct most of your anger towards your fellow countrymen as it's them that are giving you all a bad name. If the forum wasn't swamped with so many of you causing a good percentage of the mess here there probably wouldn't be so much hostility towards you.

Words are powerful.

True.

They are sharp enough to cause wounds and could even kill. I respect opinions but yours are too offensive in my side.

Not true. Words don't kill people. Actions do.

Also, sticks and stones...

[Mind Control]

I don't agree with certain language he used and he could probably tone it down a little ...

Thanks.

but this is just a symptom of people's frustrations here with 'shitposters' and the sad fact is that a good majority of them happen to be Filipino (along with other South East Asians such as Indonesians and to a lesser extent Vietnamese).

I agree but at least you did not singled out Filipinos.

Whilst The Pharmacist was probably out of line I kinda agree with actmyname that you should direct most of your anger towards your fellow countrymen as it's them that are giving you all a bad name.

I am not that mad of The Pharmacist. I respect his opinion/statement but just like you've said, he's out of line.

I cannot blame some (or many) of my fellow countrymen here if they're not well in english (I consider myself as well) or if they're only here because of bounties. No matter what the reasons are, at least they are having a life. Some uses bounties here to sustain studies, to cope daily expenses due to unemployment. Some helps the community, the 2 Filipino Moderators for the most suitable example. Some wants to learn and be updated.

If the forum wasn't swamped with so many of you causing a good percentage of the mess here there probably wouldn't be so much hostility towards you.

It's hard to clean up messes especially if you did not make and/or cause them.

They are sharp enough to cause wounds and could even kill. I respect opinions but yours are too offensive in my side.

Not true. Words don't kill people. Actions do.

Also, sticks and stones...

That's figuratively speaking.

[LoyceV]

Although I disagree on the language The Pharmacist uses, I understand his frustration with shitposters. Not only from the Philippines, but also (or even more) from Indonesia.

Words are powerful. They are sharp enough to cause wounds and could even kill. I respect opinions but yours are too offensive in my side.

If you seriously get offended by some anonymous person on the internet, you'd better get your priorities straight!

I know many Filipinos, and I know they're all very proud of their country. But they also leave that country instantly if they ever get the chance, and even then they remain very proud of the place they left behind for a better place.

Do I shitpost? Yes, who does not  

Many people don't, it's the people who don't care that create a huge problem on this forum. I currenly report much more posts than I place by myself.

Do you want someone to mock a community you're in, in general? Hell no. That is discrimination and racism. Not to mention unethical.

As far as I know, this forum doesn't have any rules against something as biased as "ethics", and it's the only forum I know that doesn't limit user's freedom of speech because someone else might be hurt by it.
If you feel the need to mock his community, I don't think he cares. And he shouldn't care, who cares! "This guy on the internet is mean to me"? Steve Hughes explains this very well on Youtube.

I agree but at least you did not singled out Filipinos.

Why do you care so much? It's obvious that a country with 100 million people has many good people, but it's also obvious the large majority of Filipinos on this forum are shitposters. What if he'd say the same about all Asians: would you still be mad? Or if he says the same about all humans?

I cannot blame some (or many) of my fellow countrymen here if they're not well in english

Nobody blames them for having bad English, I'm terrible at hundreds of languages! But I don't post in any forum in any language that I'm bad at, that's the difference. The forum rules don't allow Google Translated posts. If you don't speak English, don't post on English sections.

Some uses bounties here to sustain studies, to cope daily expenses due to unemployment.

I think it's safe to say that you mean "Many" instead of "Some".

Also, doesn't this shit belong in Reputation?

I think so, yes. Unless he considers this to be related to the forum, but as far as I've seen, much worse language doesn't get deleted by moderators. I think theymos values expression of speech much higher than possibly hurting someone's feelings.

[Mind Control]

If you seriously get offended by some anonymous person on the internet, you'd better get your priorities straight!

Not really. Perhaps a pinch.  

I know many Filipinos, and I know they're all very proud of their country. But they also leave that country instantly if they ever get the chance, and even then they remain very proud of the place they left behind for a better place.

Because they believe that there are more job opportunities outside Philippines.

Do I shitpost? Yes, who does not  

Many people don't, it's the people who don't care that create a huge problem on this forum. I currenly report much more posts than I place by myself.

Depends on the definition of shitpost from every individual.

As far as I know, this forum doesn't have any rules against something as biased as "ethics"

Fully aware but did I said The Pharmacist break any rules? I just accepted his request

I agree but at least you did not singled out Filipinos.

Why do you care so much?

Not much

but it's also obvious the large majority of Filipinos on this forum are shitposters. What if he'd say the same about all Asians: would you still be mad? Or if he says the same about all humans?

I cannot argue with something obvious. I am not actually saying "why only us?" or something. Just the tone and language used.

If you don't speak English, don't post on English sections.

But there's no restrictions regarding that.

Some MANY uses bounties here to sustain studies, to cope daily expenses due to unemployment.

I think it's safe to say that you mean "Many" instead of "Some".

I agree. Fixed for you (No sarcasm added )

Also, doesn't this shit belong in Reputation?

I apologize for shitting on your lawn.

Also, doesn't this shit belong in Reputation?

I think so, yes. Unless he considers this to be related to the forum, but as far as I've seen, much worse language doesn't get deleted by moderators. I think theymos values expression of speech much higher than possibly hurting someone's feelings.

I considered this as related to this forum so I posted this shit here. If I did a terrible judgement I'll be happy to move this (give me a go signal )

I am not up to mods and admin to do something about this but just to say that The Pharmacist crossed the line and happily complied with his request. I so not even want an apology, that would be shit, isn't it  

[LoyceV]

Just the tone and language used.

I already agreed on that, the forum is just nicer if we're all just a bit polite, even if we don't like each other. And yes, that's not always so easy

If you don't speak English, don't post on English sections.

But there's no restrictions regarding that.

There is:

9. Discussions in the main boards must be in english. All other language discussions should be posted in the appropriate Local board.

You can argue up to what point bad English is still English, but it's obvious there is a line somewhere.

[Mind Control]

If you don't speak English, don't post on English sections.

But there's no restrictions regarding that.

There is:

9. Discussions in the main boards must be in english. All other language discussions should be posted in the appropriate Local board.

You can argue up to what point bad English is still English, but it's obvious there is a line somewhere.

My bad from cutting your post. My actual thought was: No one restricts users to post in English boards even though their English is bad. Well unless it's so bad that no one understands anything.

[otrkid70]

I have seen many many Users and Mods on Here bashing people about their posts because English is not their Primary language and seems "Broken" or sounds "Stupid"

This includes theymos  " - While some amount of error is difficult to avoid, if your English is so broken that you sound stupid, then your post will be deleted." topic is here can't be Quoted https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2722359.0

English speaking people who seem to think that learning a second language perfectly is easy should probably try it themselves.

Imagine that??

You have to ask yourself how many languages does theymos fluently speak? or how about The Pharmacist? or Mr. Prep?

[MadZ]

I have seen many many Users and Mods on Here bashing people about their posts because English is not their Primary language and seems "Broken" or sounds "Stupid"

This includes theymos  " - While some amount of error is difficult to avoid, if your English is so broken that you sound stupid, then your post will be deleted." topic is here can't be Quoted https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2722359.0

English speaking people who seem to think that learning a second language perfectly is easy should probably try it themselves.

Imagine that??

You have to ask yourself how many languages does theymos fluently speak? or how about The Pharmacist? or Mr. Prep?

This is why there are local boards. I would expect to get bashed too if I tried posting on a board whose language I don't speak. The crux of the issue is that the only reason they are posting on the English language sections is because they're being paid by a signature campaign to do so. I don't see people getting bashed for their English in sections like Scam Accusations, for instance, since the same conflict of interest isn't present.

[otrkid70]

I have seen many many Users and Mods on Here bashing people about their posts because English is not their Primary language and seems "Broken" or sounds "Stupid"

This includes theymos  " - While some amount of error is difficult to avoid, if your English is so broken that you sound stupid, then your post will be deleted." topic is here can't be Quoted https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2722359.0

English speaking people who seem to think that learning a second language perfectly is easy should probably try it themselves.

Imagine that??

You have to ask yourself how many languages does theymos fluently speak? or how about The Pharmacist? or Mr. Prep?

This is why there are local boards. I would expect to get bashed too if I tried posting on a board whose language I don't speak. The crux of the issue is that the only reason they are posting on the English language sections is because they're being paid by a signature campaign to do so. I don't see people getting bashed for their English in sections like Scam Accusations, for instance, since the same conflict of interest isn't present.

Don't get confused....This is a PUBLIC forum just because a few pricks have no tolerance for a person who speaks a second language or even third language below our "standards" doesn't give a right to mute a person from posting in other sections outside of their primary language.   

They have a right to post in ANY section to the best of their ability with their adopted language without harassment from idiots who can't even comprehend what learning a different language is all about.

Sure it seems broken at times and may seem "Stupid" to the admin but give them a little tolerance it's not easy.

I agree spam like +1 should be deleted or plagiarism but if a guy is posting in a 2nd or 3rd language have a little understanding.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

OMG...you guys remember Huge Black Woman, right?  I'm not here to be politically correct, and if you're fuming over some flowery offensive words--especially on the internet, you really ought to grow a much thicker skin.  

Good, I'm glad my words stung.  It's a good learning experience for you.  If you people can't tell "over the top" from "crossing the line" then there's not much I can do for you and you probably take yourself and your race, your skin color, your sexuality, your cross-genderization, your political beliefs, and every other fucking thing way too seriously.  

There is also this wonderful thing here called the ignore button, and if you really can't stand to read the solid gold bullion that I crank out on bitcointalk, you should avail yourself of it.  

I would offer all the Filipinos here a group hug, but I'm afraid I'd be cannibalized at worst or come away smelling of curry at best.  

Now read that line and ask yourself how seriously you're going to take it.  And then you can flame me all you like, to the best of your linguistic skills.  I can take it.

[Flying Hellfish]

I have seen many many Users and Mods on Here bashing people about their posts because English is not their Primary language and seems "Broken" or sounds "Stupid"

This includes theymos  " - While some amount of error is difficult to avoid, if your English is so broken that you sound stupid, then your post will be deleted." topic is here can't be Quoted https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2722359.0

English speaking people who seem to think that learning a second language perfectly is easy should probably try it themselves.

Imagine that??

You have to ask yourself how many languages does theymos fluently speak? or how about The Pharmacist? or Mr. Prep?

This is why there are local boards. I would expect to get bashed too if I tried posting on a board whose language I don't speak. The crux of the issue is that the only reason they are posting on the English language sections is because they're being paid by a signature campaign to do so. I don't see people getting bashed for their English in sections like Scam Accusations, for instance, since the same conflict of interest isn't present.

Don't get confused....This is a PUBLIC forum just because a few pricks have no tolerance for a person who speaks a second language or even third language below our "standards" doesn't give a right to mute a person from posting in other sections outside of their primary language.   

They have a right to post in ANY section to the best of their ability with their adopted language without harassment from idiots who can't even comprehend what learning a different language is all about.

Sure it seems broken at times and may seem "Stupid" to the admin but give them a little tolerance it's not easy.

I agree spam like +1 should be deleted or plagiarism but if a guy is posting in a 2nd or 3rd language have a little understanding.

Your the one getting confused turbo.  This is a PRIVATE forum.  The Admin decides what the rules are and what rules are enforced and what the consequences are...

No they do not have the right to post in ANY section they want.  They have no fucking rights here what so ever.  We all have privileges granted to us by the Admins.  Follow the rules or FUCK OFF, pretty easy.

No one give a flying fuck how many languages you know... You sound like some self righteous prick IMO

The racist moron is allowed to say whatever the fuck he wants as long as he is not breaking Admins rules, which I haven't seen evidence of.  Don't like what the retard is saying ignore him!

[Lauda]

Do you need some baby wipes?

I'm not here to be politically correct, and if you're fuming over some flowery offensive words--especially on the internet, you really ought to grow a much thicker skin. 

Someone literally neg. rated me for using bad words.

[TheUltraElite]

He called Filipinos monkeys. 1

I would say they are malnourished cancer to this forum. And also include the Indonesians and the Bangaldeshi Beggars to this list. Even I am from a third world country but I dont shitpost across the forum like these people do. This "Who does not want free money" stance is what irritates me as well.

He states that the "collective contributions (of the Filipinos) to bitcointalk are ZERO" while there are 2 Filipino Moderators in this forum. Namely Dabs and rickbig41

It come from the majority decision. Few innocent people are always hurt in the crossfire. But those who know that they have contributed to this forum will not start this type of a thread but rather politely ask him to not make such comments.

Your method of accusing The Pharmacist simply shows that you are butthurt. If you have the guts to accept the fact that even if 90% of the Filipinos are shitposters but still 10% are not and are worth being proud of, then you would not get touched by this words and would have simply moved on.

[LoyceV]

I agree spam like +1 should be deleted or plagiarism but if a guy is posting in a 2nd or 3rd language have a little understanding.

I don't think anybody complains about a Newbie posting a serious question/problem in Bitcoin Technical Support in very broken English. I don't report them, I answer them (if I can). They don't get banned for that.

I think it's pretty clear when a "kid from a third world country" tries to post "English" just to earn from a signature campaign. That's what it's about.
I've posted (in English) on an Italian board too, but I did it only once, on a subject that interested me.

or come away smelling of curry at best.

That's Indians, not Filipinos

For what it's worth: English isn't my first language either, I know my limitations, and I see native speakers who just write better sentences than I do.

[pugman]

Your the one getting confused turbo.

Maybe, maybe not. 

This is a PRIVATE forum.  The Admin decides what the rules are and what rules are enforced and what the consequences are...

This is pretty much a PUBLIC forum. Public as in anyone can come and post coherent and relevant posts. There are no official rules stated by the admin you know. And consequences, my foot there are any. There are hundreds of users abusing campaigns and scamming innocent people, what consequences have users faced, a red tag is going to help anyone? A big huge NO.

No they do not have the right to post in ANY section they want.  They have no fucking rights here what so ever.  We all have privileges granted to us by the Admins.  Follow the rules or FUCK OFF, pretty easy.

Are you fucking dumb? Theymos believes in freedom of speech and literally all users are given equivalent rights, except for that of staff and moderators. Everyone has equal rights, you sound like a person who has been living under a rock and is just removing his real life anger on the forum's users. Go and have a beer.

The racist moron is allowed to say whatever the fuck he wants as long as he is not breaking Admins rules, which I haven't seen evidence of.  Don't like what the retard is saying ignore him!

Yes he is allowed to say anything he wants to unless he is trolling.

3. No trolling.

What the user, The Pharmacist, told was rude and discriminatory. Not everybody in this world not get offended when rude things are said, some feel too hurt and they get angered because everyone has their own limits. Freedom of speech is allowed but freedom of trolling and rudely discriminating a race or religion isn't how a person should sound. That's where you get to know that the person is immature and whining about it is not going to take him anywhere.

No one give a flying fuck how many languages you know... You sound like some self righteous prick IMO

True no one does, do you know what you sound like?

[Lauda]

This is pretty much a PUBLIC forum. Public as in anyone can come and post coherent and relevant posts.

Is every privately owned venue, that is accessible to pretty much anyone public? No. This forum is privately owned.

Theymos believes in freedom of speech and literally all users are given equivalent rights, except for that of staff and moderators. Everyone has equal rights, you sound like a person who has been living under a rock and is just removing his real life anger on the forum's users. Go and have a beer.

The only thing that liberalism bullshit gets you is the following:

There are hundreds of uses abusing campaigns and scamming innocent people

People who do not have adequate command of a language, or aren't trying really hard[1] (+ trying to learn it), shouldn't post in such sections. It is simple as that.
[1] Disclaimer for shitposters: A 3-5 lined posts is not equal to trying hard.

[Joel_Jantsen]

or come away smelling of curry at best.

That's Indians, not Filipinos

Being an Indian,I take this offensively.I don't eat curry ,neither shit on streets. I have a big Italian bathroom in my house which also happens to have a reserve of tissue papers for an year.Obviously,my family takes a glorious shit in the morning.That being said, I do agree most of the Indians smell of curry and shit on the streets.

^That's how you take jokes OP.