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August 15, 2013, 03:55:53 AM
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Phillip Archer describes it in his article in The Genesis Block:
http://thegenesisblock.com/latest-shipment-of-avalon-asics-could-increase-network-hashrate-by-500/


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Each of the large shipping boxes contains 6 smaller boxes that hold 10 trays of ASIC chips. Given that each chip has a standard clock speed of 282 MH/s, with 260 chips per tray the 10 large boxes in the photographs contain over 105 TH/s. There is evidence that chips can clock to over 450 MH/s, so using an estimate of 400 MH/s to leave some margin would result in 150 TH/s for the 24 boxes. Given that the current network speed is 225 TH/s, these chips coming online would constitute a 40% increase over current hashing power, more than the entire network speed at the end of May.

1 large box in the photos = 6 smaller boxes x 10 trays x 260 chips  or 15,600 chips
135 x 15,600 chips = 2.106 million chips


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August 15, 2013, 04:04:34 AM
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BitSyncom is sipping crown and seven at some swanky club in New York, whilst trying to seduce a hot blonde with curves in all the right places. Oh look, he just checked his smart phone to see if the millions of Bitcoins he made from screwing us are still there... yep they are! Phew!

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August 15, 2013, 04:32:30 AM
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Phillip Archer describes it in his article in The Genesis Block:
http://thegenesisblock.com/latest-shipment-of-avalon-asics-could-increase-network-hashrate-by-500/


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Each of the large shipping boxes contains 6 smaller boxes that hold 10 trays of ASIC chips. Given that each chip has a standard clock speed of 282 MH/s, with 260 chips per tray the 10 large boxes in the photographs contain over 105 TH/s. There is evidence that chips can clock to over 450 MH/s, so using an estimate of 400 MH/s to leave some margin would result in 150 TH/s for the 24 boxes. Given that the current network speed is 225 TH/s, these chips coming online would constitute a 40% increase over current hashing power, more than the entire network speed at the end of May.

1 large box in the photos = 6 smaller boxes x 10 trays x 260 chips  or 15,600 chips
135 x 15,600 chips = 2.106 million chips

Well, the photos only shows 3 internal boxes (and only 16 large boxes total, but each box has n/24).  If it's 3 internal boxes (which is what we can see) then 135 boxes = 1.05 million chips ~= 350TH/s, which is what Yifu claims to have sold, and about equal to 100% of the current network (and 50% when they're put into use)

On the other hand, if it is 2.1 million then the "mystery" million chips out there couldn't be in use yet unless no one else were mining.

If you look at the address that the orders went too, it comes out to enough to pay for 100 orders.  Again consistent with 1 million chips being made.

All the available evidence shows:
1) 1 million chips were made
2) 1 million chips were ordered
3) Most of those chips are not currently being used.

And the thing is - they don't even need to use the chips to make money.  If they have a lot of mining capacity, simply delaying the chips will make them money, since they can use their existing equipment to mine at 1/2 the what the difficulty would be if they'd shipped their chips.

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August 15, 2013, 04:51:11 AM
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^True, what's visible in the photos is only smaller 3 boxes per large box.  Not sure where Phillip Archer got the info for 6 smaller internal boxes, unless the depth of the 3 boxes is shorter than perceived.   There's one photo of an open internal box which gives some clues, but it's inconclusive.  Agree on mining with half, it would not be necessary to mine with all to maximize profits given the increase to the network.

Set of photos from the orig post:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=252233.msg2694806#msg2694806
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August 15, 2013, 04:55:32 AM
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All anyone wants to know are answers to the following two questions.

WHERE ARE THE CHIPS RIGHT NOW?
WHEN WILL THE BE DELIVERED?

Anything else is just chaff.

Given there is no response to anyone who as asked these questions via support tickers, phone calls, emails and other means of communication how can anyone reasonably expect Avalon to fulfil their terms and conditions for shipping? The majority of what has been ordered is already late and in breach of the terms of the contract. Given there is no information regarding any of the orders people should be demanding refunds full stop, regardless of the shipping of 30 developer chips that are also VERY LATE and in breach of the terms and conditions that were offered up in these forums. Clearly there is very good legal grounds to go after any company that fails to deliver on time. Sadly Avalon is no better than BFL and the community thankfully has other options moving forward these companies really have nothing substantial to offer the community given their lack of customer service and failure to deliver products according to consumer protection laws.

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August 15, 2013, 05:39:10 AM
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concern and mark!
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August 15, 2013, 07:52:35 AM
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They use the chips to build their own miners. That is why you suckers are still waiting.
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August 15, 2013, 03:42:19 PM
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(...)the community thankfully has other options moving forward(...)

BFL: 100 days
BitFury: ?

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