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April 14, 2018, 09:37:09 PM
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Windows 10 reserve a part of the 3 gb for Huh. So, with the dag size you are at limit.
Go back to win7 and you will mine for few other months.

Unfortunately there is no possible solution to this, even Claymore himself who create the dual miners says he cannot do anything. If you are happy with Windows switch to mining Zcash or Lyra2 and Neoscrypt based coins so you cannot make the 3gb cards go in vain already.

If you don't care, switching to a Linux OS will make you happy and you can mine Ethereum again up to April 2019.

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April 15, 2018, 01:05:19 PM
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It's all about upgrading your business service and machine also, since every business is a competition then this kind of event is unavoidable,  though ASICS is much more and most productive than GPU, if GPU prices is much more cheaper than the other but can give enough produce result then I think they can still survive.

GPUS as nvidia xx60 or amd xxx80 will never be priced less than $200 cause that is the performance segment, due to mining and lack of components to build a gpu, demand got very high and supply could not handle the demand, so my point is if asics can get a better hashrate than x price point gpu then it will crash the gpu market price, right now we are not seeing much but with eth asics coming and devs doing nothing, that means, if ethash keeps the gpus overpriced then cause of a coming competition, gpu prices will have to come down to normal levels but everything depend of many possibilities and use cases.

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April 15, 2018, 02:12:32 PM
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Actually only thing could save mining to collapse is decrease in difficulty.

Otherwise even ETH price 1000 USD and diffX2, it will not be profitable.

And it can only happen if ETH makes hard fork and all hidden asic ETH miners are out.
This is only way.
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April 15, 2018, 02:34:26 PM
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It's all about upgrading your business service and machine also, since every business is a competition then this kind of event is unavoidable,  though ASICS is much more and most productive than GPU, if GPU prices is much more cheaper than the other but can give enough produce result then I think they can still survive.

GPUS as nvidia xx60 or amd xxx80 will never be priced less than $200 cause that is the performance segment, due to mining and lack of components to build a gpu, demand got very high and supply could not handle the demand, so my point is if asics can get a better hashrate than x price point gpu then it will crash the gpu market price, right now we are not seeing much but with eth asics coming and devs doing nothing, that means, if ethash keeps the gpus overpriced then cause of a coming competition, gpu prices will have to come down to normal levels but everything depend of many possibilities and use cases.
But... But...

Will gpu mining die in 2018?

Really?

Hehe.
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April 15, 2018, 02:37:32 PM
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It depends of what You expect.
The gold days of mining with extra profit, and simple "one click mining solutions" are gone. You has to have some technical knowledge, and if You ready to invest Your time in research, learn, adopt and follow the latest news, it is, and will be profitable.
The profitability will be questionable for 10000GPUs (or bigger) farms, but for small miners from 50 to 200GPUs always will be something to mine. Also, the profitability will be better when some miners left mining.
ASICs were considered as a future of mining, but few greedy ASIC producers with their unfair business model, and dedicated overproduction destroy all trust in ASIC profitability.
FPGA can be the future, but it depends how miner program developers support it. If it will be free programs with "devs fee" (like Claymore) system, the future is bright. If they decide to sell dedicated HW+SW solutions it will probably finish like ASICs...
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April 15, 2018, 03:17:40 PM
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GPU mining never die.
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April 15, 2018, 04:19:08 PM
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Actually only thing could save mining to collapse is decrease in difficulty.

Otherwise even ETH price 1000 USD and diffX2, it will not be profitable.

And it can only happen if ETH makes hard fork and all hidden asic ETH miners are out.
This is only way.

Stop waiting something from the Eth devs.

Too late for that. Devs already made their decision. They have chosen to live with the ASICs. Forget ETH and start shilling for the GPU friendly coins like Monero and Raven. Raven is too fresh (one can say that's a good thing) and Monero is only good for AMD products like Ryzen CPU or Vega GPU sadly.

Just hire your rig for the best paying customer like you were doing before. Right now it is either Raven or Monero. Eth sold itself to Bitmain. Crying after it is meaningless.

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April 15, 2018, 05:16:43 PM
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For amd cards, claymore took most of algos sticked to nvidia like blake and some algos before. He also did Neoscrypt miner for amd videocards. For now, amd as universal as nvidia cards. So if ETH gpu mining dies, there are lot of algos, even excluding monero and ETH forks
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April 15, 2018, 06:07:06 PM
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The mentioned ETH ASIC's don't make a huge difference in terms of hashrate and power consumption from a multi GPU rig.
Graphic cards can compete.

No so with cryptonight ASIC's, those things had tremendous hashrate at low power.
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April 15, 2018, 06:17:22 PM
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For amd cards, claymore took most of algos sticked to nvidia like blake and some algos before. He also did Neoscrypt miner for amd videocards. For now, amd as universal as nvidia cards. So if ETH gpu mining dies, there are lot of algos, even excluding monero and ETH forks

If Ethereum and Monero are out of the mining business for graphic cards I only see the Zec as the most valuable option to mine after Ethereum and Monero and it is not looking as profitable as Ethereum or Monero at all.

I tried mining Musicoin with my 1060 3gb as in Windows 10 they can't mine ethereum anymore and profitability was just a bit less so I don't think there are a lot of other coins to mine except Zec and coins which are on Equihash algorithm like Bitcoin gold.

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April 15, 2018, 10:52:30 PM
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For amd cards, claymore took most of algos sticked to nvidia like blake and some algos before. He also did Neoscrypt miner for amd videocards. For now, amd as universal as nvidia cards. So if ETH gpu mining dies, there are lot of algos, even excluding monero and ETH forks

If Ethereum and Monero are out of the mining business for graphic cards I only see the Zec as the most valuable option to mine after Ethereum and Monero and it is not looking as profitable as Ethereum or Monero at all.

I tried mining Musicoin with my 1060 3gb as in Windows 10 they can't mine ethereum anymore and profitability was just a bit less so I don't think there are a lot of other coins to mine except Zec and coins which are on Equihash algorithm like Bitcoin gold.

There is a bunch of shitcoins to mine. But they are not stable and you probably will geet nothing on it.
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April 15, 2018, 11:20:22 PM
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Only pos mining, gues
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April 15, 2018, 11:23:47 PM
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Only pos mining, gues
BTC Proof of stake - it's future!

May  be. But with POS ya take a big risks on yourself.
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April 16, 2018, 12:11:24 AM
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For amd cards, claymore took most of algos sticked to nvidia like blake and some algos before. He also did Neoscrypt miner for amd videocards. For now, amd as universal as nvidia cards. So if ETH gpu mining dies, there are lot of algos, even excluding monero and ETH forks

If Ethereum and Monero are out of the mining business for graphic cards I only see the Zec as the most valuable option to mine after Ethereum and Monero and it is not looking as profitable as Ethereum or Monero at all.

I tried mining Musicoin with my 1060 3gb as in Windows 10 they can't mine ethereum anymore and profitability was just a bit less so I don't think there are a lot of other coins to mine except Zec and coins which are on Equihash algorithm like Bitcoin gold.



I guess ASICs were also try to create a miner for Neoscrypt, they are not ASICs proof like the other big Coins

Yet, they can fork to kick ASICs out, FPGA is much more flexible

ETH and Zec are not interested doing forks as for them they don't see it as a priority

for sure, there are already ASICs mining equihash out there
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April 16, 2018, 12:57:58 AM
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For amd cards, claymore took most of algos sticked to nvidia like blake and some algos before. He also did Neoscrypt miner for amd videocards. For now, amd as universal as nvidia cards. So if ETH gpu mining dies, there are lot of algos, even excluding monero and ETH forks

If Ethereum and Monero are out of the mining business for graphic cards I only see the Zec as the most valuable option to mine after Ethereum and Monero and it is not looking as profitable as Ethereum or Monero at all.

I tried mining Musicoin with my 1060 3gb as in Windows 10 they can't mine ethereum anymore and profitability was just a bit less so I don't think there are a lot of other coins to mine except Zec and coins which are on Equihash algorithm like Bitcoin gold.

There is a bunch of shitcoins to mine. But they are not stable and you probably will geet nothing on it.

You can always trade them for btc or whatever else to hold.

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April 16, 2018, 01:09:50 AM
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For amd cards, claymore took most of algos sticked to nvidia like blake and some algos before. He also did Neoscrypt miner for amd videocards. For now, amd as universal as nvidia cards. So if ETH gpu mining dies, there are lot of algos, even excluding monero and ETH forks

If Ethereum and Monero are out of the mining business for graphic cards I only see the Zec as the most valuable option to mine after Ethereum and Monero and it is not looking as profitable as Ethereum or Monero at all.

I tried mining Musicoin with my 1060 3gb as in Windows 10 they can't mine ethereum anymore and profitability was just a bit less so I don't think there are a lot of other coins to mine except Zec and coins which are on Equihash algorithm like Bitcoin gold.

There is a bunch of shitcoins to mine. But they are not stable and you probably will geet nothing on it.

But there are some shitcoins that have proven insanely profitable. Just take a look at ravencoin for example. Started mining it when it was traded OTC at around 50 satoshis each. Look at it's value and difficulty now. All you need to do is pick the right coin. I was able to 100% ROI an entire rig in a week by doing this.
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April 16, 2018, 01:49:00 AM
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For amd cards, claymore took most of algos sticked to nvidia like blake and some algos before. He also did Neoscrypt miner for amd videocards. For now, amd as universal as nvidia cards. So if ETH gpu mining dies, there are lot of algos, even excluding monero and ETH forks

If Ethereum and Monero are out of the mining business for graphic cards I only see the Zec as the most valuable option to mine after Ethereum and Monero and it is not looking as profitable as Ethereum or Monero at all.

I tried mining Musicoin with my 1060 3gb as in Windows 10 they can't mine ethereum anymore and profitability was just a bit less so I don't think there are a lot of other coins to mine except Zec and coins which are on Equihash algorithm like Bitcoin gold.

There is a bunch of shitcoins to mine. But they are not stable and you probably will geet nothing on it.

But there are some shitcoins that have proven insanely profitable. Just take a look at ravencoin for example. Started mining it when it was traded OTC at around 50 satoshis each. Look at it's value and difficulty now. All you need to do is pick the right coin. I was able to 100% ROI an entire rig in a week by doing this.

I was too late on this, miners already noticed it, good for you dude

I'm still looking on these kind of shitty alts, and still grasps as of the moment, searching for other shitty coins who could made such profitability is somewhat a trial and error with luck





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April 16, 2018, 01:58:48 AM
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Good call on that one. Obviously coins can fork to try and protect themselves from recent developments but still that is a bad strategy and only allows for more covert asic to be done for months again, ROI many times over while nobody knows there are ASICs mining on the network.

This is why I believe CPU coins will be the future, and there must be an anti-botnet strategy to implement from hackers and bad actors accumulating too much of the supply and control.
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April 20, 2018, 03:37:12 AM
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Another satisfactory real 20% profit, since my first advice, 50% real profit on any coin and 90%-150% profit on some coins, sadly weak hands will keep losing the profit. I guess the sad truth will make you trolls to learn that only holders win in this game.

E3 will be on july, so 2x more dif and 2x eth price. Also the f3 will be in disguise for bitrmain to turn it on on july without any problem and in the end bitmain will say the dif increase was only the e3 which will be a lie. The dif will never grow 2x with just the e3, the f3's will be all hidden hehe, 51% attack for bitmain and co hehe but they will not do it, better to mine eth secretly with f3, more money in the long term.

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April 20, 2018, 05:58:35 AM
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You want to say that only the coins which will go ASICS mode will die but not all of them. There are like more than thousand coins which are mineable and thus we can always switch to one another and there will be no as such time when there is no coin to mine with the GPU miners. I am sure this is what will keep the concept of GPU miner always live and thus it wont die soon. I know there was time when we used to mine with the CPU's but over the time they got replaced with ASICS for the BTC mining. However GPU is something with more and more options available. So surely they are not dead yet and wont be any soon.

 
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